Hello everybody, and welcome to Hold up the show where we dive deep inside your childhood nostalgia. Pull the movies from your past out to see if they hold up. It's season five. I'm hold up with Andrew. I'm hold up with Kyle. How are you guys doing? I'm just happy and blessed to be in your presence and not Kyle's physically.

That is so that's good. Yeah, that's good. Who's, who's sponsoring , the phone line this week? , Didn't you say it was Blue Chew? , Blue Chew. Give us money. Blue Chew. Yeah. Blue Chew. What the fuck? What the fuck is Blue Chew? Is that like Bluetooth for your teeth? It's like the chewing gum vibe. Whatever.

Get your soft dick, not soft. Rec function. It's like, it's not really it, it's just supposed to get you in the mood. It's, like a, it's a, see, it's Adi aphrodisiac. Yeah, but it, it, it, I don't know if it, it's like clams. It's like hot clams. , It's like pineapple and pineapple juice, baby. That's not, that's not aphrodisiac.

Pineapple is, yes. It's, it's not, it's not. It's, it's not, we're not gonna do this game. Pineapple is So go fuck yourself. No. Spell it. Pineapple. You know what it is? Spell it. The Aphrodisiac Act too is uh, football season, right Andrew? Yes. Yeah, it was very, what were you gonna say? I was gonna say n my ass or something like that.

That's a knew football season , is well known to definitely make women and men come together and not drive them apart. Marriage, I think it's mainly just marriages, men, like sadly jerking off in a corner. Like drive, not sadly, like happily. Well it depends. There, there are both ends of the spectrum on this.

Not I'm sadly this weekend. Yeah, you are. , You're ferociously, you're using your left hand too. Well it's important in these moments to remember that you deserve it. Chase. Yeah. Well woe was me. Thanks Calin. , After, yeah. Calin Debo, if you're listening to this, actually you should probably be listening to this and watching this movie 'cause there was a better coaching job done in Little Giants, the movie we watched this week to bring in the football season.

Hey, , Kyle, can you describe your mood and football terms to us? . So, you know, like, , third down, third and long, and he just snapped the ball. And, , the linemen are just, they're shitting their pants everywhere and, , you got a really aggressive defensive end and he's just ready to sniff your balls.

So he just, he pops right on over that, that, uh, that forward, that forward, you know, you're almost there line. And, he comes right around to you, and then, , proceeds , to throttle you. But before you do that, you do an illegal, , intentional grounding and it costs you a penalty.

So now you're like third and 24 and you now have to kick it. But instead of kicking it, you do what you do. You don't do what your coach tells you and you, you throw it and it gets intercepted and they get a touchdown. Shit. , That's it. Cool. That's it. I mean, that was actually pretty good. Minus the, intentional grounding.

It would be a loss of down, so it would've been fourth and 23 as opposed to three and 23, but the kicking would've been accurate. The kicking would've been accurate though. So yeah. Very proud of you. , Not bad. And , just so you know, that forward line, , that's a line of scrimmage just going forward, if you ever find yourself in a situation such as the one you just described, I won't.

I won't. Okay. Well, so that will never happen. Okay. , I will never have that happen to me, but thank you. Well, Kyle, since you're doing so well, I'm gonna ask you first, what do you remember about Little Giants? Nothing. I never watched this movie. Great. Well, I don't know to tell, I dunno how to tell you y'all, but yeah, I, I, this was the first time for me too, so I might've like, watched it like on like in the background of something.

'cause I remember like one of the kids gets the ball. Like , they hiked the ball and it gets the quarterback and the quarterback like. LOBs it over to this kid and then that kid throws it and I was like, oh, that's what football is. So I tried that when I was like playing with like the kids at recess and they're like, what the fuck are you doing?

I was like, it's football. This is what you do. He got like five flags thrown on you. , Well, Kyle, then, tell me a little bit about what Rick Moranis means to you. You know, the star of this movie. Fucking Love Rick. Love Rick. Was it, was it an awesome to see him again in a movie? It was, although this is not his strongest movie by any means, Uhhuh, but he definitely does.

, He brings it together enough. He has a couple of good moments in it that are pretty funny with the child actors, which I'll get to later. But, , honestly it was one of the few movies, movies where the child acting is not atrocious. It's actually pretty, pretty on point. , I actually enjoyed his chemistry with Ed O'Neill in this.

Oh yeah. I thought they had, it wasn't bad. Really good, like chemistry. They didn't even meet until they, they started filming. Well, okay. Did Ed O'Neill play football or did he just kinda look like one of those football guys? I don't think he played, I think he's just a bigger stockier kind of dude.

Okay. He was the perfect fit. Yeah. And well he's also, , Al Bundy and so that whole persona of him being an ex high school football player Yep, yep. , Is kind of the character he plays. That's actually how he got the role is 'cause they like, oh, we want Al Bundy to do this and we'll just pair him with a nerd looking person.

Rick Morans is perfect. And then that's pretty much mm-hmm. Much. He also, he just, he looked, he kinda looked like a young Mike Dicker, honestly, like it was pretty un He looked, he looked like a young dick. Like he looked like he was a complete like jerk. Somebody, somebody you would not wanna be around, you'd hate.

But he did it well. He was the perfect guy for it. So yeah. Perfect cast there. , Andrew, what do you remember about Little Johnson? If not, tell me some glorious things about Rick Moranis. That is basically it, , what Kyle said, so don't remember it. , Don't think I watched it. I probably caught, , a few scenes here and there when I was a wee little lad, but this was my first, , expose if you'll, that's surprising to me.

Yeah. It feels like a movie you would've really enjoyed when you were a kid, probably. , And it was just one that, that passed me by., I probably watched it. I just don't remember it at all. So this is a big one for my childhood, that I'm the one that forced these two to watch this movie. , I watched this a lot, me and my dad both.

I wa I was big into sports as a kid. Definitely big into football growing up in Alabama. , Kalin Debo rolled in Tide. Yeah. Rolled into, , not this weekend, , but. It's one of those things of me and my dad watched it a lot. , He really enjoyed it, but he loved Rick Moranis. , It's hard to not love him.

Yeah. Hey, I wanna make a correction. Ed O'Neill did play football. He played at Youngstown State. , That's where he is from, Youngstown, Ohio. And he played for the Steelers for a year or. I thought so. Yeah. I'm not, , I'm genuine. I'm being genuine. I thought that he did, he does look like a football player.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. But he was a defensive lineman. Uh, you know, he is 16. Damn. He didn't look, he doesn't look, he doesn't look like that kind of football player. He, no, he looked like he could have been , a DL back in like the seventies for sure. They weren't as big they now. No, I mean, you have, how big you had to be now you have to be like six foot five and weigh like three 20 to even like, take your weight.

Not necessarily. Aaron Donald, who's the greatest defensive lineman of all time, , was like six foot two, like two 80. He was not that big, truth be told. , But he was a specimen, but yeah. Built like a tank. Yeah.

I, someone is built like a tank. We're talking to him like, he's like passed on, but yeah, he's, he's still alive. He's retired, but he's still alive. But yeah, ed O'Neill played football and played for the Steelers. That's pretty, pretty cool. This movie is what I remember Rick Morans for when I was a kid.

What? Yeah. Really not honey. I shrunk the kids. Yeah. That's not, not space balls, but not Ghostbusters, not space balls, not Ghostbusters. So it's honey, I shrunk the kids without a doubt from my nostalgic childhood perspective. And I, and I get that, but this is what I saw men first as a kid. That's fair.

And I love this movie so much. I watched this shit outta this movie. We had it on VHS and I watched it all the time, especially around football season. , And it was back in a time when Alabama wasn't that great. So I was living through the underdog phase, but that's what I remember Rick Moranis from.

And then I watched Tony, I Shrunk the kids later, and then like, oh, that guy from Little Giants. And then I watched Ghostbusters a little later and I was like, oh, the guy from Little Giants. And so that's how it got tagged along. And now as an adult, like I see him as, you know, ghost Busters and Honey, I Shrunk the Kids before I see Little Giants.

, I actually forgot about this movie, believe it or not, for a long time until like, I don't know, I was just scrolling and I saw it the other day and I was, well, thank God you remembered. Thank God it came back to you. Or else we wouldn't be sitting here having this wonderful moment together. , I'm glad that I could share it with you, Andrew.

Yeah. , Before we dive into it, Andrew mm-hmm. Did this, did this movie give us some juicy numbers to talk about? So do you all want to guess what the budget was for this movie? It's probably not a lot. , Not a whole lot. I mean the, the NFL stars, if they did, if they were uncredited, it would make it even lower.

They were not uncredited, but, okay. Okay. Well then, , I'm gonna say some of 'em it was their community service. This is 94. , We're gonna say, I'm gonna sp say Google little liberal and say about 25 million. Okay. Not bad. Chase, do you got a number? Well, I'm kind of cheating a little bit 'cause me and Andrew were talking about the Ohio set dressing that they had here, which it was clearly not Ohio.

So filmed in California. Imagine Rick Morans was , pretty hot at the time, and so was Ed O'Neill. I'm gonna say about 45, 50 million. It was only 20 million. Good for me. Damn Chase. Eat my fucking balls. Yeah. He fucking beats you so badly. You have to beat his balls later as punishment. , But , it only grossed about 19.3 million altogether. So Total. So it lost money. Yeah. It was a flop. Yeah. It was a disappointment. Rick Morans also had this movie called, I think Bully at the time with Tom Arnold in it. Mm-hmm. Does anybody remember that?

Yep. , And that was also a flops, I think he was actually producing pretty bad movies at this point. Well, he wasn't producing anything. He was just reading , the script and accepting the role. Yeah. . As we've talked about, as we've talked about many times, a lot of this boils doesn't necessarily boil down to acting choices or scripts.

It does to the editing room , and to what they're marketing it as and all that shit. So, well, he was, he was taking a lot of kids' roles at this point because I think that, , his kids were of age then and he wanted to do movies for them, and, which I mean, eventually he retired from acting altogether just to be with his kids after his wife died, which he's coming back.

Did we talk about that? Yes. Baseballs. Baseballs too. Love it. And I love it. Also in a commercial with Ryan Res, so he's been in that one for a minute though. That's the one. But that was like his, that was supposedly the teaser that he's coming back. Apparently. Don't you have a connection to Rick Moranis?

, Blair went to college with his. His son. Son. Yeah, that's right. And Brown. Hey, small world. Yeah. Small, small world we live in. , So only 19 million complete flop lost its money. Interesting to me, that this movie flopped and it's really not, it has a more cohesive story than Armageddon.

Yeah. Armageddon. Just like it has a more cohesive story than a lot of fucking movies we've watched. But yeah. There's not much to the story, but at least they, they know what they, they know what this movie is. I, and surprisingly, when it, what did it come out in Fall, Andrew? , Let me see. I had it up here a second ago.

, 'Cause it seems like a movie that, especially if you're coming out in the fall and football season, like this is something you take your kids to go see it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It came out October 14th in 94 there. So like right in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. , I wonder if Warner Bros didn't, , market it enough, because I mean, the football players that they had in there, like three of the four, are Hall of Famers. Hall of Famers, yeah. Like really great players. Emmett Smith, one of the greatest running backs of all time. Of course there's John Madden, who is,, a legendary figure in the game, , hall of Famer as well.

You would think that would've like, held some weight, but I wonder, that was probably before the NFL really had its crutches on our society in terms of like how they market and, and , what they do. 'cause , it's back in the good old days, that was before Roger Goodell and them, were in charge.

So I don't know. , I doubt the NFL was as popular back then, but I mean, it's still the NFL. The NFL is still always has been. But I get what you're saying. Like it's a d it's on a different level right now compared to like Yeah.

Where it was in the nineties. Yeah. But at the same time, ready for, ready for it to die. Can't die quick enough. Well, that's not going to happen, Kyle, unfortunately. Before we dive into the play by play on this movie, I do wanna mention where it came from. So the idea for this movie came from a McDonald's commercial.

Really? There is a McDonald's commercial out there. I tried to find it and I couldn't find it, but I didn't really try too hard either. Clearly it's a 90, it's a 1992 McDonald's commercial that aired during the Super Bowl, around the Super Bowl time. And it was a little girl scoring the game winning touchdown.

And a lot of people found that commercial super inspiring and the screen play writer of this movie did. So it came into play. How inspiring. I love that. That's, and that's the origin story of Little Giants So beautiful. Yeah. Well, Andrew, where does this movie take place?

Where does it get started? So we start off in the Heartlands, we're in Albania, Albania, Ohio. It's Where, where's Albania, Ohio, Kyle, I don't know. It's made up. It's, it's, I don't think it's a real place. I mean, there is Urbana, Ohio, which is like north of Springfield. It looked like, it looked like it was kind of in the, little armpit near West Virginia area.

Like once you go like, , east of Columbus and South, it looks like somewhere in there where it's. Not flat, so it's not up near like, you know, the flatter parts. It looks pretty, you know, it was pretty, , it wasn't, it was pretty for a California town, not, yeah, yeah. San Luis Obispo, that Godless place.

Yeah, those Ohio mountains that they, that they showed there. Yeah. I think they, they should have kept those out because, you know, , if they were modeling it after Urbana, Ohio, it would've just been flat farmlands. Why didn't they just call it Urbana? I don't know why did they go all the way? Because that is, , that's a not, I wouldn't say well known, but it's like an established town.

There are football players and football people from that area. There's foot, there's great football players all over the state of Ohio. So like, they could have picked anywhere and it would've really made sense, but they had to go with , the fictional Albania. But, , regardless, they're playing at, at this young nerdy kid is following his sturdy older brother.

, Chewing a lot of gum. A lot of gum, and he never stops even when he ages. But, , yeah. He's tagging along. You could tell his brother's kind of annoyed and just putting up with them, but they're going to play a game of pickup football in the field and, , they get there and, , whatever his name is, it's the OSHA brothers you have, , Danny and Kevin.

Danny is the, , younger, nerdy one, and Kevin is the. Superstar in the making. , And of course, Kevin is team captain and he doesn't pick his brother. No one picks his brother and his brother's left on the sideline. And he's pretty much told to establish at that point that, Kevin's the star and his name's gonna be up on the water tower someday.

And, , still, but he promise the ride. He promises him as he goes to kick off, which was terrible for him, by the way. Which makes me think he wasn't a great star. I did appreciate though that they just punted it. 'cause when you played pickup football back today, you just punted it. Yeah. You just punted the shit.

You didn't line it up on a tee and kick it off, you just punted it. Well, actually I will say like later on I found a tee and so me and my friends would use the tee to kick off. See, I think it's, I think it's substantially harder to use the tee than it was punch, but , it taught us how to kick a lot better though.

Yeah. But, uh, Andrew, you never played soccer, did you, Andrew? No, I did. You're a fucking idiot. I absolutely, I played soccer for five, six, no, maybe like didn't seven years of my life. I absolutely did. That's definitely not true. Played all through middle school, first year of high school, and then when I was younger, from like ages like five to eight, I did as well.

Unfortunately, he's got all the participation trophies on his counter. Unfortunately every sport, every like major sport when I grew up. But , unfortunately that's just not true. Okay. , But, and I love how he, like Danny Feigns an injury Oh yeah. Is one of the, his girl crush, I guess at the time.

Yeah. Becky or Betty? Or Betty? Betty. Was it Betty? Yeah. , Betty Floyd or something like that. I dunno. He's like, I'm, I'm she asked him, but Danny, are you playing? No, I'm on the injured list. He starts limping away. Yeah. I mean, I felt bad for the guy. We've also all played that card before. Yeah. We have , at one point in our lives.

So, , but yeah, it just kind of established the dynamics of, , brother to brother and. Loser versus champ, if you will, and how they're viewed. And yeah, we fast forward, what, like 30, 40 years and , where are we now? Something like that. Where are we now? , We are in the same town. Yeah. They're doing, , good tryouts for the Pop Warner, , football league.

So Kevin ended up being this great football star. Yeah. He went on to win the Heisman. He won a national championship in college, , a Super Bowl. Like he didn't, he didn't mention anything pro related. I, I wrote, I wrote it down. He won a national championship, the Heisman Trophy and a bunch of all Americans.

So we're gonna pretend he went to Ohio State and, uh, became a huge bust in the NFL Yeah. Bus, because he's probably a, that's probably a top five. Overall pick. There's many Heisman who are busts if , we're being honest. So, and he just added to the list. But, you know, winning the Heisman and winning an NCAA championship, that's a pretty big deal.

Where, where do you think he went to college? He, he went to Ohio State. You think so? Oh yes. He was wearing a green jersey though. I thought it was not Dame. No, he went to Ohio State. No, no. He went to ou. No, he went to Ohio State. Ou? No, he went to ou. OU has never won Jack shit. But he didn't have a high trophy, did this.

No, they don't. They did they show Look it up. They did. , They show a picture of him and he's wearing a green jersey. So in my head he went to Notre Dame. No, that's fair. There's a lot of, , Ohio players who go to Notre Dame, but in my mind, from the very be beginning traders traitors who should be shot?

Sure. In my mind they are though from the beginning. This is an Ohio State player that was recruited by Woody Hayes and, you know, went on , to glory for the Buckeyes Woody. Good old woody. Yeah. Physical assault on another player shouldn't exist. He deserved, he deserved it though. He deserved it. The best plays , of all time.

, Yeah. So he, Kevin is, doing these tryouts for this peewee team. , It looks like that he's never left football. No. It looks like he's carrying it with him everywhere he goes and he is coming back to, you know, give back to , his hometown and community by leading him to a peewee football championship.

I don't even know what that consists of. Is that like. County, state, national, I don't know. Probably state. Yeah. Something weird. Yeah. So he's got a bunch of these kids and they're all trying out one of the best players that are trying out, happens to be his niece.

Niece who they call the ice box. What a nickname. , Do we ever get an explanation on why they call her the fuck? Why would we get an explanation for that? No, she, because she hits everyone like a bunch of burnt frozen fish sticks. I don't know. It's the best I have for it. , Yeah. So she's, and she's like popping off, man.

She's, she's a, she's taller, solid. She's taller than like all of them. You could tell she's more athletic and stronger than the vast majority of 'em too. But Does she get picked? No. No. Absolutely not. Of course not. Because she's, 'cause she's a what, Andrew? She's a girl. She's a female. Yeah. And , and they're not allowed in football.

, Especially in the nineties. Especially in the nineties. No, I'm surprised they even let her try out. In the nineties. I don't know what the peewee football scene holds today. I don't know if they allow girls to play at all. I would imagine in some, in many places they do just because it's, yeah, no, , it's more acceptable.

There's also many girls at that age that are more developed than guys. , They're more mature than, and they're probably the better football players. Awe, yeah. I mean, if I was coaching today, I would be like, give me a, gimme a team of girls right there. Yeah. Like gonna win every game.

Yeah. , But yeah, she doesn't get picked. And then she's not the only one. There's a group of, how would you describe these kids? Ms. Fitz, . Yeah. There's varying levels of learning disability between them. Yeah. , They're , what people would call losers back in the day. Yeah. Poor kids.

Yeah. Misfit is a great way to put . there? No, there are a bunch of kids that are gonna go play for Kent State after this. Yeah. What's the problem? Golden Flashes baby. , They, so a bunch of these kids don't get picked. They're all rejected. , Danny shows up late to see , the tryouts.

, He shows up in a tow truck. So he owns a garage, right? Gas station owns, . It looks like it's a gas station that is also like , a repair shop as well. Yeah, like in, it's kind of run down a little bit.

Looks like it's from the fifties and he never updated it, but , he shows up and he. Sees that , his daughter doesn't get picked. Her name's Becky. So he sees Becky doesn't get picked for the team and he's kind of a little pissed off by it. He's like, why is she not getting picked? She's one of the better players.

What are you doing? You wouldn't pick your own niece. And so he goes up and confronts Kevin about this, and Kevin basically says, you know, she's a girl. She can't do it. She's a girl. That's basically , his reasoning and his excuse. And he drives off in a Corvette. It's a nice Corvette symbolizing, no, it's a shitty Corvette.

That was a shitty model year. It's nice, it's red and it's sporty. It's nice. It's a shitty model year. It was not a good model year, say so. Nice car. , He drive, had a tiny little V eight nice car. He drives off in a Corvette., Which symbolizes the two power struggles here. It shows that Danny never amounted to anything.

He has a bad shell station and his older brother is the Corvette. , Which I don't understand why if you own a dealership in town, your brother would buy a gas station. It doesn't make any sense. They're about the same age. Yeah. Yeah. They're, their physical statures , are far different still.

And they are, they are, you know, just looking at them. And Danny's supposed to be the smart one, but yet, like he's just, he works, he owns and works at a gas station. I mean, he probably, maybe he bought it, he probably bought it with the understanding that the town's gonna blow up at some point and he's gonna sit on that mu sit on that land until he gets some real money off.

Kyle, are you telling me all he is doing is stealing catalytic converters? Well, he doesn't have a meth problem yet, but that, that's like 10 years down the road. So we'll get there. It was starting in the nineties, so I think we're, he's, we're getting there. We're close to, we're close to a real story happening.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I don't wanna knock his, . His profession though. 'cause you know, Banney is probably pretty small. There probably aren't many gas stations and , I bet he makes, , I wouldn't say he makes a killing, but I bet he does well for himself and his home. He had a nice house. His home would, you know, would, , attest to that.

He looked like he was okay. Yeah. Small town life baby. Yeah, baby. He's killing it baby. He's killing it. Yeah, baby. Yeah. , And now how many Corvettes and is his brother actually selling in that small town too? Shit, the money's not in the Corvettes. The money's in the, all the other ones. The Malibu. Yeah.

Sonics probably true. Especially in California, right? The Blazers. Yeah. Especially in San Louise boat. Not urban yet. San Louise, Ohio. There you go. , So that's pretty much the opening scene of this movie is , , we see the struggle with the brothers, , not picking his knees for the football team.

So Kevin goes on his way, we meet some of his family, , and Danny goes his way. Just meet Becky. 'Cause Danny is divorced. Did they ever say No, mom just left. Mom left. Mom just left. She got tired of the gas station life and Albania. Yeah. Kind of sad, you know, it, it, you know, it fits Theran like woe is me kind of.

I think the bad story is that she wanted to have an open relationship, but Rick Mors. Didn't want to have an open relationship. And they talked about, , the c old thing and they weren't like on the same page and Yeah. Kind of left. Yeah. Rick was too proud for that. , Is this where she left and Rick, like in a desperate plea to get her back, bought a bunch of pineapples and put it on the porch and she never came back?

Yes. I mean, yeah, sure. Why not? 'cause according to Andrew, the pineapple, just owning a pineapple is an aphrodisiac. That's true. I mean, a pineapple is an aphrodisiac, all right. So Danny's like consoling Becky at this point, and he looks at Becky and says, look, if I had a team, I'd pick you. And that sparks an idea with her. So what happens next, Kyle? So next we get a character almost committing vehicular manslaughter.

, So , the daughter, , Becky, , she shows up and pulls up on these three other kids from the football team dunking on these, , the other misfits and talking about like, you didn't make the team, you fucking idiot. You slime, you filth. And she rolls up on them and they're afraid of her because she's the.

Icebox. She's the alpha. So yeah, she is the alpha. So they get on their, these troublemakers get on their bike and she shows up in a fucking go kart and two stroke engine, just fucking like eaten up the road. And she hunts them down and runs one over, pushes them in the water, probably drowns. The other one is like, she, he's like in the water, like, Hey, you're a girl, you're fucking numb.

And she just fucking whips around, does a little donut and flings shit right at his face. And it lands right in his face. It's so satisfying. That little prick. It gets exactly what he deserves. And she goes away. But she did almost kill somebody with her go-kart. , She sent that last guy like flying.

He like went like 40 feet in the air. Yeah, honestly, I mean, dead. Absolutely. I'm hoping that he's dead. Right? And, but that's, that, that's kind of what happened there. She says to him, she's like, I'm gonna get you back on the football field. And he is like, how?

And he is like, I have my own team coached by my dad. And they're like, you're dad. And so that's where she drives off to , the diner Andrew. And what happens in the diner? , Kevin's sitting at the front talking to some old timers, and they're asking him to like relive his glory days. He was talking about, , he shared that story maybe six or eight times.

Yeah. , That month. And you're playing into the stereotypes of some dude who still, you know, stuck in, , the past, which, you know, makes sense. One of those old men had Alzheimer's too. That poor guy. Oh, yeah. Because he was like, I thought it was four seconds, and he was like, mm-hmm. He was like, no, it was two.

I swear by it, but he's talking. No, it's those World War II vets, man. They were poof. Well, they're, they're probably both dead. RIP Uh, I would assume so. I would hope so. Otherwise we gotta talk about immortality, because that's a whole lot of thing. Yeah. They haven't gotten the blessings of AI nanotech, , or nanobots technology yet.

So they were still microwaving metal in. Yeah. , But he is talking to 'em and I think the mayor like stops 'em. And he was like, Hey Kevin, we have a problem. We gotta chat. And this is when, , he's told that, , there's another team that's been formed and he is like, what? , We're the only team. , What?

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's established clearly that, , you know, uh, well we have a playoff. Yeah, we have a playoff. Yeah. One of the old cool World War II Vett suggests that Yeah. Nito. So now we know what's going to happen. And as he turns around, I'm pretty sure Danny's right there. And he's , did you have a, did you have a say in this?

And he's , what are talking about? Clearly he doesn't even know. 'cause he isn't the one that has been spreading these rumors. It's his daughter Becky. And , he just goes along with it and he's like, yeah, yeah, cool, whatever. And so now we're gonna have a face off. Well, and, and too, so there's this like little line that he always uses.

Kevin does. He's always like, good, I'm glad you saw it my way. And just by basically just like strong arming his little brother and. It snaps Danny at this point and he was like, you know what, we are go, we're no, we're gonna do this. 'cause he's trying to stand up for all the kids that deserve to play.

Even though they all are god awful. They all resemble the 2025 Alabama defense, but they're really bad. , So we get to, , get to them picking their players right. Andrew? , Yeah, I guess, uh, so we're, we're moving quick. 'cause there's not a whole lot going on. I mean, it's, it's essentially No, it's just, it's, it's just a montage of them, like going at all the misfits and like, they're all like, do you wanna play?

No. Won't come play for us. I love how they pick the players. They're just like walking along the, the railroad tracks and this montage going on and every time they pick somebody new, they just, you see them show up on the tracks walking.

Yeah. One of the best parts is they find this kid whose dad leaves him for like, I guess ever, and they're like, you won't go play football. And the kid's like crying on his stoop and he is like, I'll go play football. His dad, his dad was like. Absent almost the entire movie too. Yeah. Like his dad went for cigarettes and milk.

Yeah. Never came back. And then they find this other kid who's just riding this like electric horse outside of a fucking Piggly Wiggly. And they give him, they were like, you wanna come play football? He is like, no. Do you like football? No. No. Good. You can come play with us. I was like, why would you want that kid?

That sounds like a complete liability at wherever position you put it. I mean, they're really going for the misfit angle here. , They're trying to administer as many outcasts and non-athletes. Did you notice the one, did you notice the one Latino kid they had as the kicker? Yes. Did you notice that?

Oh yeah. I loved it. Playing in some stereotypes there. Oh yeah. . So they get 'em all assembled and on the practice field. And their practice field is the dirt lot behind The repair shop. The repair sh to the shell station. Couldn't find some grass somewhere or something. Yard, no. , You gotta make it dirty.

Yeah, literally dirty. I, that's dusty. That's where they get the misfits in the dirt versus the. Coming up out of the dirt, playing in the dirt's, going to build some character for those youngsters instead of the nice grass. But they all start practicing. Becky's obviously the best one that they have.

Yeah. But, but they're building a comradery and they're clearly awful at football too. Yeah. And then this one mom shows up with this kid, , as they're putting on their uniforms or putting on the, like what little uniforms they had and the equipment that he found, I guess outside of a dumpster, like Viking helmets, like Darth Vader helmets and Darth Vader helmet.

Nothing. I would love to see that kid try to wear a Darth Vader helmet on the football field and get CT at an early age. Or just have his face, his like nose, like smashed in. You know, he could easily have some brain and skull injuries, , without that face mask, but hey, and, and they're about to go play this like, team of , juggernaut kids at that age.

Yeah. It's so funny to think about. , And in no way, shape, or form would this work in real life. There's no way that you could get a bunch of kids that have never played football before and go up against this like, machine of just star studded pool. Well, I don't know. It's fucking kids, man.

I mean, there isn't, there's probably isn't much of a difference if you, if you plan or scheme accordingly. They're about the same size, but your brother doesn't know anything about football. I mean, yes. That there's, that's the real Chucks right there. , The whole thing was just, a laugh, but I get, it's supposed to be absurd, but they next go to this grocery store because after the montage, we just see.

Ice box, just eating donuts, walking to a grocery store like powdered donuts. , She looks disgusting 'cause she has 'em all over her, like greasy fingers and like all over her face. She's got a, like a powder. Mustache. Yeah. Beard from all the, and , she's dirty from practice. Host. Has she been eating?

Yeah, , they're filthy. , But which, you know, she didn't pay for any of that. No, she's just stealing. But on the aisle over, you got , some blonde-haired kid, young Aaron Rogers. Yeah. Yeah, sure. , Tossing toilet paper rolls into a,, grocery cart at the end of the aisle. And , he's sinking it every single time and it's pretty obvious, you know what they're developing here?

It's the quarterback. Yeah. JR. Or Junior, if you will. JR. Jr. He was shot, but, , yeah. , He's clearly. Good and icebox. AKA Becky's clearly smitten with him from the beginning. She's like taken back too. Yeah. This is not like her. No, it's not. She's a jock. She doesn't like, boy. She's a tomboy. Yeah, she's a tomboy.

But this one's really got her cooking. Yeah. , Andrew, I want you to see if you can remember some of these misfits and tell me a little bit about each one as we go through. You can just make it as quick as you want, but , you got farts. He's the big boy. , Gas man is what they call gas man. Yeah.

Not farts. , He farts a lot. You got, , Jake Berman or Berman, who's , the one who's just sickly looking. His mom was scared. Poor that poor kid. Yeah. , He didn't really grow up to look too much better. , But he was just a. Just a scarecrow, like his mom wrapped him in , bubble wrap at one of the practices too.

Yeah. , There was Marcus who was , the Asian kid. , That's how I remember him. I don't know what he did exactly, but he was an Asian, he was like the only Asian on the team. Yeah. , He gotta get the diversity in there. Who was the, , the wide receiver? What did they call him? Hot hands. Ha. And which he's actually pretty fast.

Yeah, he was fast. He just couldn't catch. No. What do you think his 40 time was? Andrew? 6.5. Yep. That's what it wass what it was. Which is, which I don't understand why they didn't, it's very slow. I'm very slow. I'm surprised for a kid though, for a kid that age. That's not too bad. It's probably not. Yeah.

Honestly, because, , yeah, and like, and he was actually really, he was like one of the faster picks out there and they didn't pick him just 'cause he couldn't catch, . And then , you have Junior obviously, who's the star quarterback. Yep. Which they say he's got a cannon for an arm like 45 times in this movie.

It's a drinking game. Take a shot every time they say it. That's really all that I remember. Then you have Johnny, the dad list guy. That's his, oh yeah, yeah. That's his whole personality is that he doesn't have a dad. He's not even listed on IMDB, which is kind of sad, but, , yeah, that's Can you have a rad tad?

Oh yeah. How could you forget about Rad Tad who dresses like a cowboy the whole time? Yeah. Something like that. Again, all these kids are fairly autistic. Like they, they just are, they're definitely on the spectrum. They are, they're, , they're special and you gotta protect them in some way. Somehow. Okay, Andrew, you do.

So Kyle, , they're the kids who get bullied. Like, that's what, that's what I mean. Mm-hmm. You gotta protect them. So, Kyle, what happens after junior joins a team and they start practicing, they realize they suck. That's it. Yep. , They suck, but they're better with Junior and they're having a lot of fun.

And that's all that matters. Yeah. And that's really all that matters until it doesn't, until it becomes about winning. And then they have this whole, , the two old men do this whole fricking like, we're gonna get, we're gonna get 'em pitted against each other and see which one comes out on top. Yeah.

And they do this whole, like, regular, like we found out about a prospect out there. And he is bumped fuck nowhere. , He is a kid, he is been raised, , raised from a cornstalk to be , a fucking dick sucking hard charging, , tight end or whatever the fuck he is. And, , full fullback running back.

Yeah. Talking about Spike. Spike. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, shut up. He's a running back. I'm telling the story right now. Well then tell it accurately. No, it is accurate. Okay. Football football's a great sport. Alright. , So essentially , they give the information to both the brothers , to go poach this kid, essentially, or to go, what, what's the right word?

, Poach. Yeah. Recruit. Recruit. There we go. Yeah. So they both get in their cars and they race and it's a whole fucking like thing. And, , Rick Marnis gets there first 'cause he is taken a go-kart, right? Yeah. Because , then he gets there and, and he is the, the father of this child is using all of , the strangest terms to describe his child.

Like Yeah. He's bred to play football. I groomed him from when he was a young bup. Really weird. He's like lifting a refrigerator too. Yeah. He's like telling about all the stats about his kid. And his kid is just like, football life. Eat football hungry for that. Yeah. He talks in third person, he's like, , spike, eat food Spike, scale Spike, do nothing wrong. Spike swears she was unconscious. But , he very quickly realizes when he gets on the team that they all suck and then the father finds out and then he comes along with Kevin and he's like, you piece of shit. Yeah. Dare He is like, you told me you were coach osha.

And he is like, I never said I was Kevin, OSHA. And he is like, you're clever. You think, you think you smart because head Brainin work. , . And , they get Spike on their team. Right? And Spike was during the practice too, with the Misfits. He is like, him and Becky keep going at it.

And, but he's, he is bigger than Becky. Like this dude is built, he's a 10-year-old murder. , He's like held back for two years. Did you, did you recognize this kid? He looks familiar. Yeah. He was, , he was in, oh God, I saw it last night. I'm trying to remember. I can tell you I'm, I'm waiting.

Timothy Shala me. Kyle didn't do this episode, but it's in a movie that we did. Yeah, I, I remember he was, oh my God, it's escaping me. What is it? He is Val Corrigan. Yes. And Brink. Yes. Yes he is. He is the asshole and brink. , And I saw that last night. I didn't recognize it 'cause of the long hair.

, Speaking of, don't recognize Horrigan. Not Corrigan, but Val, I want, yep. So him and Icebox are just going at it like about to just like kill each other , when this whole transaction happens where they take the kid off Danny's team and puts him on Kevin's team. So now it's like the, the odds are really stacked against them.

But I wanna ask you guys this, did you find it odd that, icebox is obviously smitten over Junior. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And so when they were gonna ask junior's parents if he can play football, it was the girl, the little girl from the beginning of the movie mm-hmm. That Danny had a crush on. So it's like first one to what?

I'm not sure where you're going with this. So like, waiting where, so he's saying if the, if the parents get together, then how do they get together too?

Yeah. They can't just be access to us. Oh wait, was that. Is that her? It was, it was junior's mom. Oh yeah. Did you fall asleep during that part? Probably.

So the weird part here is like, so. You got two love stories brewing here, and I don't, it was weird. I thought it was weird. I thought it just didn't need to be there at that point. But anyway, the side story there, because that does come into play later.

, So , after Spike gets taken off their team, they start arguing and there's some infighting, right? And like then Junior, yeah. They're like, we suck. We always knew we suck. We just we're bad. We can't do this. Let's give up. Which they were practicing fine without Spike. I don't understand why all of a sudden Spike changed it and then , he came on board and he was like gonna be their secret weapon and then he left, and then now they're like, oh, we suck again.

It's like the Rob Schneider quote and they end up having a lot of infighting and basically the whole team quits on itself. And that's when we get our famous moment here where one of the kids is riding his bike and this bus stops him and says, Hey, do you know how to get to where they were going somewhere?

, And it was John Madden looking for directions. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. And it, the number of NFL players fall off the bus, just conveniently. And we're talking, like we said earlier, some Hall of Famers. You've got Emmett Smith, you got Bruce Smith. , Who were we? We gotta name all of them. , Because Tim Brown, , gimme a second here.

I had the list pulled up. Yeah. Bruce Smith. Edman. Emman, yeah. Steve Emman, who kind of fell off. He was big at the time, but he fell off. Emmett Smith, Steve Edman, John Madden, Bruce Smith, Tim Brown. And those are big, big names. Yeah. I mean that's a, those are great coaching staff right there. Yeah. , And like, so they end up like helping the kids.

So kid, of course Emma Smith played for the Cowboys at the time too, but which is weird how these like NFL players would, , have time for this. But anyway, hey, they're getting paid. So yeah. And while we're getting these montages of these practices while the NFL players are helping, we also get a scene where it's a little bit before this, but around the same time, it's all kind of going pretty quick.

We get a scene with Kevin. , Spying on their practice. 'cause he'd heard that Junior was playing quarterback for them. Mm-hmm. And he was like, oh, they're, he's actually really good. And , , they're standing in some bushes across the way with binoculars, spying on, , children.

And, , Danny calls the cops on him. He calls the state troopers on 'em. He doesn't call , the, or Albania police. He calls the state troopers. And, , , plays up this story about how they're, what does he, what does he say? He says that like, he's like part, he pretend to be like an old woman, and he's like, there's some men with some binoculars watching some children.

, It's just not right. The way that they're running around with no pants on. Right. And they're watching those children, I just don't think it's right. And he points , the receiver to the child and the child goes and he comes back and he is like, they're running, that's, they're running around in their underwear.

It's just, and the kid goes, please help us. And they hang to the phone immediately. High fives. And I was like, , that's actually funny. That was good. Yeah. , And they're going to jail for a long time. Like, forget about the, like, that was a really glossed over. He is like, oh, he called the cops on me.

Uh, hometown. Heisman Hero gets arrested and thrown in jail for being a creep, a peeping tom. , Indecent exposure to children. Yeah. You'd think that there would be more repercussions, but apparently he is' in a, in and out of jail pretty quickly. And then he, almost killed his wife in one of the scenes, right?

Yeah. He, he like tried to dive into a mattress and to show his kids how to attack that. She was holding this ex-football player and he was trying to show him how to like, set up a tackle and sh and his like, buck 30 wife is just like maybe hanging out, even that, like, maybe even that. And she's like, honey, please don't hurt me.

And he's like, shut the fuck up. Get ready. And she's like, so she gets scared the last minute and like, like ducks him and he goes flying through the window and then of course kids movie conveniently lands on his crotch. Yeah, right on. His nuts. Just crushed him on that tree branch. He flies out the window and , conveniently lands in the pool below.

But, well, not only that, but it's just like, how did he, he dove out headfirst. How did he land on his nuts? Who the hell knows? Yeah, exactly. That's, yeah. I love the, , the ice bag that he used. It was one of those, like old timey, I don't even know what you call those things. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Just like an mm-hmm. Just an old ice bag. , It looks like a blanket that's just tied together with ice. He is. Got it. Sitting on his ing balls in the living room Balls, baby. Well, he is sitting on his recliner. So all of this like nonsense and it's a lot of flashes and montages. There's even one where Danny's introducing the team at his home and they're having a good time.

And you can see the parents are just enjoying the fact that their kids get a chance Yeah. To play football. So there's like some, I'll say there's some heartwarming moments in this. These moments, these situations are supposed to pull at our heartstrings. 'cause you wanna cheer for the underdogs.

Yeah. They're clearly the underdogs in all facets of life. Yeah. So good people, good people, good kind people, after the team introduction, , it's time for the game, right? Like, and then the Cowboys get their uniforms, which is modeled after the 1994 season Legacy jerseys. And they look pretty sharp. They have the same, it's the same, it's the same color scheme.

It's, it's literally a Cowboys uniform. Well, which we've seen a lot. We've seen that cowboys uniform a lot since then. But in 94 it was , a brand new like kinda legacy uniform. Yeah. And the Cowboys were the biggest brand in the sport back then. Essentially them and the 49 ERs were the two biggest. That was during.

That was close to Elway too, with Broncos coming on. Elway was a little bit after, but , not far. I mean, he was, I think he was in the pros at that point. Yeah. , But the 49 ERs and the Cowboys were the two best teams in the NFL. They had a number of Super Bowls in that, , 80, 88 to 95 stretch. So Cowboys suck though.

Fuck 'em. Awful franchise. They can eat shit. So there you go. From a Packers fan. Just had to get that out there. , But yeah, , they look, , they look sharp, they look like a real team. The Giants get their uniforms and they're just red and they get their Giants helmet. But the Giants helmets look exactly like, like the giant Summit, York Giant Summit.

, And then we find out, so during all this, right, as the game's about to start, Becky's having second thoughts. So this whole time during this montage of them practicing and getting ready for the game, . She wants to be more girly. She wants Junior to like her. And who gets in her mind about this?

Kevin? Kind of weird. Yeah. Didn't like it. Honestly. A little creepy. And he's like, why don't you come be a cheerleader for me? Yeah. I think you're, here's my niece, who I know is probably the best player on that team, but I'm gonna play with her emotions and get her to, to walk out on what she's been doing.

And, , that'll serve me well because I'm gonna win this game. So play with her emotions, play with the 10 year old's emotions. And, , yeah. That's a recipe for success. Right. So she ends up abandoning them game day to go be the cheerleader, , which cheerleader colors don't match any of the colors on the field.

No, I , think there's supposed to be just unbiased cheerleaders at this point. Fuck yeah. Because they were cheering for both teams. I love unbiased cheerleaders. That's the way to go. That's my favorite. Yeah. So Becky ends up for that. And so now the team's like, well, we're gonna die. So now they have no hope.

They just have Junior and he's just playing quarterback. He can't even really throw to himself. . So we, the team comes out, , the Cowboys run right through their banner. The Giants do not Yeah. They get catapulted back essentially. I think two of 'em got decapitated. Yep.

Probably, hopefully paramedics were there. Yeah. , So now starts the game. And this is where, this is where kind of the realism, I mean, not that we weren't flirting the line with realism, but it's fun that this team gets to practice. But now they get on the field and they suck. They suck. They game kickoff.

They get down 21 to nothing. Yeah. Which. It's 21 to nothing and a half, so there's a lot of shit happening. Spike's just bulldozing through these kids. He's the , biggest kid on that field. Yeah. It takes like all of them to tackle him and he carries them for like 15, 20 yards. It's a absurd amount.

Good physical humor for, yeah. , For a child, you know? Yeah. And , they're just junior has no time to throw the ball and when he does throw it, they drop it. Yeah. I remember the Hanes is having a problem catching the ball. He's like, really fast, but he can't catch, he puts on that sticky shit in his hands then, so it gets stuck to his jersey.

His hands are so sticky that he can't pull him apart and then he gets stuck to his jersey and Yeah, that was some bad, that was some bad acting right there. Yeah, it was. That was some bad direction, some bad acting, but it was stupid. And you accept it 'cause it's a kid's movie, so I just, I didn't like the fact the ball hit him in the head and knocked him unconscious like it How hard was Junior throwing that ball?

, But , , the weird part, how the hell is that? Only 21 to nothing. , The Peewee League quarters probably are not that long. You know what I mean? Yeah. They're not 15 minute quarters. They're probably like. Eight minutes each, even eight minutes. That's six, that's a 16 minute half.

, And I imagine that spike alone on those two carries would've scored two touchdowns. Probably. Yeah. You probably had 200 all purpose yards to end the half. Yeah., I didn't question it 21 to nothing. That seems okay , for peewee. I, it just felt like it should have been more could have been, but in real life it probably would've been more.

And in real life they probably would've, mercy ruled this game in real life. This, the little Giants team wouldn't have even been created. So they are now correct. You know, it is what it is. You're suspending, you know, belief for the greater good. Um, so, so what happens at halftime? Do they, what kind of speech do they get?

This is, this is where I fell asleep because I remember them starting a speech. Right. It's a very, and that's about heartwarming but lackluster speech where he just kind of like, Hey guys, you all deserve to play. I don't do what I did. I made myself. On the injured list. I never got off of it. They're like, , why did you do that?

And he's like, well, because , I just fucking sucked at everything in life. Don't be like me, but like, Hey, , I beat my brother one time when I raced him downhill on our bikes. And I bet you guys have done something once where you've won once and they go on all these stupid fucking anecdote anecdotes about how like they did something once and they did good at it.

And it's like, okay, actually I actually like that. 'cause they say , the one time, one time I did one time I beat my brother at this one time I did this and I was the best at this. , It was a kind of a good speech to say, Hey, one time's all it takes to, to do anything, all we have to do is beat him one time.

And so they, it inspires them to start like playing better. So they don't even need Spike. They don't even need the icebox. But, they come back out and we have a play by play announcer by the way, as they come back out and he's, , he's talking about how they're gonna get shredded. Do you wanna guess who the play Byplay announcer is?

Andrew. Who? Is it Bob Costa? Nope, it is Harry Sheer from This is Spinal Tap in The Simpsons. That is Harry Shearer. Mm-hmm. Why did I not recognize that guy? Because he didn't have his beautiful handlebar mustache and his long hair. Oh my God. Yeah, you can recognize that voice of Mr. Burns and Smithers.

Holy shit. , He's Derek Smalls in Spinal Tap. Yeah. How did I miss that? I'm very disappointed in myself. Yeah. Yeah. You're not as good as you thought you were Andrew. Okay. I mean, I don't think I'm good, so I don't know what you're getting at. Well, the team, , I think you're great, Andrew. Okay. Okay, thanks.

The team comes back out, they get back on the field and, , the Cowboys are just laughing their ass off. They're like, well, let's get this half over with 'em. Beat the shit out of them. But, the Giants start coming back. They start making some plays. They gained a yard, which gained them a lot of confidence.

Yeah. Good. And then they gained even more and they got a touchdown. I don't remember their first touchdown. I was asleep for that. I saw the second one. They just, they were like, what's the last thing they'll expect? And it's like, , burn me. I run the mall. Yeah. It's like, and they give it to the stupid idiot kid.

He just runs it down the line and like, jus out 13 people. And he like, score. It's like the most unbelievable bullshit in the world. Right? Like, he stands there for like five seconds and then the cowboys teams over pursue him and run into the table. Yeah. He's like, they wouldn't expect a reverse to me.

And then they run a reverse to him. I was like, yeah, they wouldn't expect it 'cause it wouldn't work. Like, correct. Because he would be decapitated and the kid's like that kid is maybe like, what, two seven? Kyle maybe. Maybe he's like three foot max and he's probably weighs like 60 pounds. Probably. You could, I mean, you could launch him, you could just take him by the arms or the legs and just real quick, just kind of like, you know, hammer, toss him down the field.

, You'd probably get a world record, but I bet you could throw him a good 20 feet if you gave him to , like a linebacker or like a strong man. , You said toss his kid 30 feet. , They do it. Yeah. That's how small this boy is. Yeah, absolutely. Like there's no way that play would work, but it does in this movie.

And they get their first touchdown, so it's 21 7. You can see Kevin starting to sweat a little bit. He's like, Hm. It's a one score. One score. Okay, what's one score? And I, how do they get their second score? So they're coming back, they're able to get the ball back and I forgot how they did it. , How do they get their second score?

Was it , the kid that can never catch? Yeah, it was, , what's his name? Yeah. No hand. No hand. Pete. Hey, hot hands. Hanan Hot Hands. Hannon. Yeah. , He catches a long ass 'cause he, 'cause he's, , he envisions the ball turning into a roll of toilet paper, roll toilet paper because he is always able to catch that.

And he gracefully caught it. And this is where you really saw speed and he just kind of blazed by who was left as a defender and walks in. Yeah. And then that was, , yeah. Was that it? I feel like there was another one. . I thought, I thought that was the tying.

Tying one. No, I think the tying one, it doesn't really matter. I think the tying one was the dad less kid run into his father. That is right. So, yeah, that is right. , They get the ball back on a goal line stand because guess who comes in to join the ice box? Becky. So it's 1421. She's got her, like her cheerleading like skirt on, but she's still in pads and held up.

'cause I mean just like pick lane. I lane mean, come on Lane. The reason she joins too is. Um, Junior Floyd is standing up after a play. It's a dead ball, and Spike just drills him in the back. Why deserved it?

He deserved it, but, and ends up hurting Junior. So Icebox sees this and she's like, well, fuck this. I'm in now. And so she like, like Kyle said, puts on everything, like all of her gear, but leaves her skirt on for some reason. , And they go out and it's a, the middle of a drive. So Spike is carrying the Cowboys all the way down the field and it's like fourth in goal from the inch line.

And her and Spike just. Tee off on each other at the goal line and she stops him. And so by, by a matter of inches too, right? Like it was the nose almost Grace. And I think we're ahead of ourselves. 'cause I think that's when , the game was tied. Yes it was. But before the, the giant scored because they were able to give the kid whose dad was never there.

The ball when his dad shows up to see his game, briefcase still in hand and he's running, his dad's running on the field. And so Johnny runs off and dodges everybody 'cause he wants to see his dad, even though his dad's gonna leave again soon. , But scores for his dad scores the game tying touchdown. So it's 21, 21.

But Andrew, what play does the Giants run with only four seconds left from their own goal line? The annexation. Of Puerto Rico, which we've heard how many times in this movie. They've mentioned like three times. , Not enough. I wish I could hear it one worse. There's another character that we forgot who is like, he's supposed to be like The Wiz.

He doesn't play. I think he's a MCUs from Boy Meets World. I think you're right. But it's just dorky blonde kid with glasses who's supposed to be like this, like super genius, like 8-year-old, and he has this big fucking computer that he carries with him, I guess wherever he goes. I don't know. But he concocted this play.

. Called the annexation of Puerto Rico, which is kind of like the Statue of Liberty where like the fumble, fumble, rooky. Yeah. , What, what play ever came out of. It was like really just a fumble. Rooky. Yeah. They hike the ball and hide it, so you don't know who has it. And the defenders are confused and they go for the wrong person while the person with the actual ball runs down the sideline and touch.

, They give it to the slowest linemen that they have. Uh, isn't that just a fake gas man? Yeah. , It's like a fumble. Rooky fake and Yeah, gas man's running down field. But you, he's like running outta steam after 10 yards and he slowest shit. Yeah. Yeah. So they're able to, childhood obesity is gonna come back and get you Yeah.

Diabetes. So he's able to toss the ball backwards somehow. He laterals it to, but he doesn't even look, he just throws it. He just throws it over his shoulder and there's no way that's hitting anybody behind him. And he lands in, I think. R Tad's like hand? No, it lands in Junior's hands And Junior takes off.

Yeah. And then he scores, no Junior gets tackled and he laterals it to the smallest kid. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And he takes off. So Jake, I think is his name Jake? Is it Jake Berman? That's what his name. Something like that. Yeah. , And yeah, he takes off and he scores another touchdown.

Yeah. So, and then they win the game. 27 to 21. No extra points, kicks the in 'cause time's expired. And we glossed over this too. We glossed over the fact that like during the game Kevin bet his dealership against Danny's garage. Winner take all That's right.

Yeah. That was at the beginning of the game. Yeah, the beginning of the game. So now Danny owns a car dealership and a gas station, so he is gonna have a monopoly on the car business in Irv Baia. Thank god. Fuck yeah man. So he's gonna sell the broke down Corvettes to the people and then have to fix them.

, That's an oxy. That's an oxymoron. Chase. A Corvette has already broken down, Hey, shut the fuck up. I'll have some respect for Corvettes. , So he, , so he wins and Kevin's like begging him. He is like, come on Danny, , we can't do this. Like, is there anything else we can think of? And he goes, I can think of one more thing.

And What's that, Andrew? What does he think about? I don't know. I don't fucking know. So he's like, I can think of one thing and he looks up at the water tower. Oh yeah. And it's, it says Banio Ohio, home of Kevin O'Shea. And it changes to home of the OSHA brothers. Right. Which is the truth to what he said at the beginning, very beginning of they taught them the beginning and the end together.

And that's, I mean, as quick as that was everybody that was little giants. Yeah. Movie's over with. And , we're done. . Kyle, I wanna start with you watching this movie now. You didn't see it as a kid, but how'd you feel about it as an adult? , This is something cool to watch with your kids again.

We've had a couple of these. This is not anything that is like, it's probably gonna be very similar to the Sandlot. I know. I just pissed off a lot of people, but , , it's definitely not the worst thing that we've watched and for kids movies, this is not, this is a pretty good movie. , It has a start.

It has a, , beginning, middle, and end. , , it builds well. It has some funny moments in it that are cute. It's not trying to do anything more than what it is. A lot of the humor is for children. It's not one of those movies where it's like, oh, there's, oh, , that's cool to get as an adult.

There's, don't go into it with that expectation. Because there's not any of that. The only humor thing, I think I spark humor. The only thing I laughed at, I think in this whole movie is when, , at the beginning where they're trying out and the gas man kid has his lunch in his helmet. Mm-hmm. And he goes, what?

He's got Cheetos in here too. And he's like, crunchier puff. And he's. Puff puff, he's like, wimp. I thought that was the only thing that was funny. But beyond that, Kyle's right, there isn't, there isn't a moment where you're just like, ha yeah. Good shit. Maybe, maybe they, maybe they maybe them getting caught, like watching children arrested by state troopers.

Yeah. It's just the gra the gravity of that. Yeah, the implication. It's very, that was a very funny moment. But like, aside from that, like, kids will think this is funny. There's a lot of crotch humor and a lot of farting and potty bullshit. And, , it's, you know, it, it is like, it's, it is what it is.

, But yeah, that's, that's pretty much all I have to say about it. , Andrew, what about you? You've never seen it before. What'd you think of Little Jones? It was a kid's movie.

Just plain and simple. It was a movie for kids. , What's one that I will not watch again on my own? , Would you watch it with a little tyke, A little Andrew? Absolutely. Yeah. Well, a hundred percent. But, and that is the purpose it would serve, right? Yes. And that's the only purpose it would serve. So, I mean, , that's the purpose of my life as I watched this with my dad growing up.

Or this was a movie that my mom would put on to keep me busy while she cleaned the house. Yeah. , But I loved it as a child and I still, as an adult, like I was like,, I still got some good principles to it, some inclusion. Like yeah, I didn't have any issue. It didn't date itself with any, like, pop culture references.

No. And the potty humor, although any kid's movie's gonna have that, it wasn't as like over the top as I was expecting it to be. So I didn't laugh at it, but I can see it. You showed this to a kid now and they probably laugh. I don't know. , I actually enjoy Rejo, my watch with it. And I remembered a lot of quotes from it.

Like, I remember the Giants, giants help us God, like that kind of stuff. , I'm just happy the Cowboys lost, so Yeah. I knew you were getting a kick outta that. Fuck 'em. I still don't like really care for the Giants either. That was, , I don't love the Giants either, but I much prefer them over the, the Boys America's team who hasn't been shit for, they haven't won a playoff games since like the nineties.

I don't think so. Yeah, that's not true. , That's blatantly not true because the Reds haven't won, have the longest drop. You're right. The Giants, sorry, the Cowboys won one with Tony Romo, but just won. So Yeah. Trash, , so Andrew, does this movie hold up? No. , Again, you know, I'm judging this from my personal perspective.

, I always say to myself, is this something that I would watch again? No, not by myself. I would have to have, , a kid in my life, I would have to be in , the father zone. , So no, it doesn't, it's not something that the father zone. I don't , what do you wanna be fatherhood, if you will?

I have to be in fatherhood.

Kyle, does this movie hold up? Yes, it does, but just barely. And again. I agree with Andrew. This is something that I'm not gonna seek out myself, but in terms of like other movies that we have watched, I would be, I would rather watch this and gladly watch this versus having to watch Armageddon again or have to watch, , Batman, , and Robin again, like this is something that like, is definitely not a, you'd watch a bat movie over Armageddon.

Really? A thou Yes. It's, I'm with, it's 40 minutes shorter and , it's at least the movie is what it says. It is. Armageddon. I hate when people are like with, oh, you're right. Armageddon goes, turned into a good movie. Almost three hours. You're right. Yeah. It was so long and it was so dumb. I was also thinking of Coner 'cause those kind of bled into each other and I was, I do con I would rather watch Coner than I would watch Con Air.

I like Connie, but , again, like movies , that we've trudged through, like really like just tough. The, I would rather watch this over the Great Mouse detective, like I'm saying, like, this is definitely not, a bad, , it's likes, it's interesting you bring up Great Mouse detective because I thought of this movie when I was watching it and when it was over with.

It was a similar feeling, but honestly, I felt more strongly towards, you know, great Mouse detective than I did this one. I felt, , I was more, , I'm with Kyle drawn to Great Mouse than this one. I just, again, I wouldn't watch it unless I had a kid. Me, I just wouldn't. Me and Kyle were sitting on his couch watching the Great Mouse detective being like, , this is trash.

What do you mean? I was right there too. Yeah, no, but you didn't say it was trash. I didn't say it was bad. I said it was flat than it was. We were, it was, we were all definitely disappointed, but I think me and Kyle took it a little bit harder than you did. I just had remembered that movie being so good when I was a kid.

And it just like, that's one of the main reason why we do this podcast is because that was just one where I was like, I was an idiot. I think we set our ourselves up for disappointment with that one. I still think it had little to, but I think a lot of, but it to Kyle Giants, but point, that's what , this podcast is all about.

'cause I think a lot of people would set themselves up for disappointment and a lot of movies they remember. Yeah. , I don't think little Giants is gonna set you up for disappointment the way that I believe or feel that great mouse detective might have. No. 'cause I never saw little giants, so there was no expectations.

Exactly. But at the same time though, , I understand where people would be like, no, not for me. But again, looking at this as , a parent, like, would you wanna watch this with your kid? To kind of like, there's some, there's like Chase was saying, there are some themes in here that are like inclusivity and like, why do we do things?

We do everything all the time to just fucking be the best outta everything. No, , you take the joy out of it. And like, this is something that I think is important for kids to learn. Like, you might be good, you might be really good at the sport. You might not like that sport, so why don't you play another sport and the other, and when you're not doing the other one or this other thing, or play this instrument, or you're good at this thing in school and get joy.

Find joy, what brings you joy. It doesn't have to be this like, yeah, it's all or nothing. And I had, I know we've all had coaches. I definitely had coaches in grade school who were, my father coached me through a lot of my, a lot of things, but he did not know a lot about basketball. And I had coaches in basketball are pricks.

And , I'd be like, I wanna do the jump all night. And he'd, oh, this is the real McCoy tonight. , We're not, you can't do the jump ball tonight. And I'm like, , we're playing against another Catholic grade school. Does it really matter? Like, are you kidding me? Yeah. Duh. Catholic.

Catholic, parochial league, league matter. Kyle, , they do matter. But my point is , I think that the, the lessons in this are not heavy handed, but they're like, this is. Definitely something that is, there's at least a theme to it that's from start to finish. There are some funny moments. It's mostly meant for kids.

I think it holds up because of those reasons. , But I definitely don't, I definitely understand why Andrew would say it does not hold up. So I'm not, like, I'm not gonna challenge that. Yeah, , I agree. , I'm definitely in the holdup camp and I agree with you, Kyle. , I think the main like litmus test for if it holds up for me is would I watch it again?

And this one was a strong, see for me, I can't use that on kids movies 'cause I am probably not gonna watch any of the kids' movies. We do guess, but , if that would put all the kids we're gonna critique and do a blow by blow of every aspect of a kid's movie, then I think we have to, look at it from that perspective.

We did the same thing with Ernest. Scared stupid, you know? Yeah. What I mean, and I think we all said that didn't hold up, but like for like a five or 6-year-old probably would've been beloved. Yeah, , I just, I'm with Kyle, there's a little bit more, , nuances here and plus it's got Rick Morison and who's, who does a pretty solid job and Ed O'Neill, I thought their, their chemistry together there, there's a little fine tooth combing with this movie, like the atrocities that we have with most kids movies were not as prevalent here.

No, I would agree with that. , I think that this is, again, the child acting in this was act, it was acting. And I think a lot of this had to do with the fact that I think it looked like they just set up a camera and had minimal, , people around, . And then they just sh they just shot it.

And it, it was like the kids actually acting natural. And I think for th I think in that sense it would gravitate, you know, people when they were younger who saw this to wanna watch it again. , I think that it would hold up because of that fact, because it's still, like, I watched that , as never really having seen it, maybe saw one or two parts of it and I was like, okay, that's actually kind of funny.

Oh, okay. Those kids, I believe that they're doing what they're doing. This isn't like atrocious acting where it's like, God fucking just kill me. I'd rather be dead than watch this. , And , I don't know, it's, , I think , if I'm always going into this as in , am I gonna watch this again?

I, which I think is something a fair thing that we need to ask when we're doing these, , these movies for sure. It's, , I agree with Andrew, but at the same time I do think there's some nuance. With how we go about some of these , child movies that are clearly just for kids. And that's the thing.

Like I, I get what you're saying. I've just, on this podcast, I've been consistent about not necessarily looking at it from, , a child movie perspective and just giving it, , a Yeah, and, I get that grading system a critique, if you will. I get that grading system. What would you give it on I mdb Andrew?

Like a 5.4? Solid. 5.5, something like that? Yeah, because like you all have said, , it the, it's not that horrible from start to finish. It's just really flat and there ain't much to it and it doesn't appeal to a 33-year-old. No. You know? So like 5.4 is what I'm gonna go with. So Kyle, what would you give it?

I'd give it a 5.9. I was gonna say I would give it a 5.6. Yeah. On IMDB. It is actually a at 6.5. 6.5. Yeah. Hell yeah. So there you go. And Kyle, I have one more question for you since, , welcome back by the way, this week. , But you missed our last episode for Batman Forever. Yeah. We kicked you off. Yeah.

Did you have any comments you wanna give the viewers about that one? , Or listeners? So , I didn't watch that one. And I'm just gonna say, you know, I remember this as a kid and there are better Jim Carrey movies out there. There are better Tommy Lee Jones movies out there. Better v Kill there.

Better Batman. There are better Val Killer movies out there, and there are better Batman movies out there. I'm gonna go ahead and say I didn't need to watch that one to tell you. It did not hold up. You don't need to waste your time on it. , Yeah, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't approach it with a 10 foot pole.

Anything that's not a Christopher Nolan Batman, aside from the original mic, Michael Keaton and the Tim Burton. That was like cl just like very dark artistic. A Kill it. Kill, kill. Honestly, Kyle, , I went back and watched the original Batman, the original 1989 Keaton one. I didn't, I thought it was kind of bland.

, The Nolan movie spoiled us. Save, save that for another day. , Yeah. Well it could be one weekend. Yeah. But Kyle, that one would've pissed you off and I know it would've, yeah. You would not have appreciated it. It was better. Chase. Chase doesn't necessarily agree with me. I thought it was., A good step up from Batman and Robin, but like that's setting the bar pretty fucking low for how bad.

That's Batman and Robin was. So that is the lowest bar that we have on this podcast is that movie. Yep. And that is the worst fucking movie we've watched. So anything slightly above that might as well be the same thing. Yeah. And it's not saying much. I, so I would, yeah. I thought it was almost on par with Batman and Robin.

Just , barely better. And that's just because he is, had Jim Carrey in and he went nuts. That was about it. All that saved it. But anyway, if you want to hear the full thoughts from me and Andrew on Batman Forever, you can go back and listen to that episode. Before we move on, since this is football season and this is a football episode, if you will, Kyle, I want some predictions.

I want your. 20, 25, 26 National Championship. , prediction, , two teams give a winner, and then one for the Super Bowl. Two teams, one winner. I want to hear it. I wanna hear who you got. So , we're gonna go college first. Yeah. And this is a, no, this is a no brainer. . In the college playoffs this year, you're gonna see, , Auburn and Temple go at it.

Oh, hell yeah. And out of those two, who's your national champion? Who's your winner? Well, , so one of the planes goes down on the way there. So then Ruggers has to fill in. So it's gonna be Temple and Rutgers, the actual Yes. For the actual national championship. Represent the Northeast. I love it. We're looking, things are looking up.

Uh, Philadelphia right there, the owl versus things are looking up versus Scarlet Knight. What a, what would, that would be an epic championship game. I would, the ratings would be as through the roof. You're right. Through the roof. Excuse me. People would tune in all over the place and watch that game. All right, so you got college outta the way.

Now let's move on to the Pro Super Bowl. So this is a tough one for me. , As you all know that I'm a very big, , Carolina Panthers fan. Yeah, I didn't know that about you. , But un unfortunately I can't go with the Panthers this year. , I'm gonna have to say the 49 ERs and the dolphins are gonna have to go at it and the 49 ERs are gonna take the cake.

Honestly, the 49 ERs could easily win the Super Bowl, so we might circle back to this at some point. , So , who'd you have in your college playoff again? Who wins that Temple and Auburn Temple. And Rutgers Temple. And Rutgers. Yeah, but who wins? Who wins? Yeah. Oh, who wins that? Yeah. Oh, that's a, are you kidding me?

Temple wins. Fuck yeah. The owls. See your national champions this year is gonna be your Temple Owls. And then we've got, yeah. , The 49 ERs winning the Super Bowl, which is. Solid pick, Kyle. We'll, we'll join you back in February and see if your picks are correct. Yeah, I gu we don't, we don't need to do that, right?

We already know. No, we're going to, this has been cemented into history. We're not gonna forget it. So never. Anyway, you know what we do here? We reach into your childhood nostalgia, pulled the movies from your past out. We're in football season, so we pulled little giants out and found out. It does hold up thanks to me and Kyle, not Andrew, . Do you know what we're doing in two weeks? Remember the Titans. Remember the Titans? I'm excited. I'm a big one. Big. I'm very excited for this one. Kyle's excited about this one too, so I'm very excited. We're rolling through football through the rest of September.

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