Hello everybody, and welcome to Hold up the show where we dive deep inside your childhood nostalgia, and for this month, pull the summer action blockbusters from your past to see if they truly hold up. I'm hold up today with Andrew Kyle via the satellite phone and our great friend and star of the new Superman movie, George Howard Adams.

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Star, star, like I emphasize that. Please. I went and saw it and I thought you were the star best scene in the movie. Well, the 14 year olds that are trolling me on Instagram think otherwise that's, just part of fame though, is to be trolled by 14 year olds. Well, mm-hmm. , I'm getting these, , comments like, Hey, you need to take Super Soldier serum because you got your ass beat by a nerd and you got beat up by Superman.

It's like the movie's called Superman. , You're actually getting trolled comments for this, for that shit. I got 1.4 million views on this Instagram reel in one week after that movie came out, and I have hidden so many comments. That's hilarious. Yeah, like now I understand why people. That are famous will take social media breaks because I'm not famous and I was getting thousands of comments and like I wanted to fight some people.

Yeah. It actually got to me after a while, I'm like, oh, okay. . , Did you laugh at any of 'em? Like was there, was it a source of like comedy for a moment and then like the lights switched or it flipped off and you're like, no, screw this. Like I pre pretty much, yeah. In the beginning it's like, haha, that's funny.

It's like, okay, 20,000 views. That's, it's pretty cool. . And then it's like, oh, I have half a million views and thousands of comments and thousands of likes. This is, , this is annoying. And then finally it was like, oh, my Instagram is not mine right now until this dies down. Then I'm just along for the ride.

Yeah. Yeah. People were like, hate watching you, it sounds like. Yeah. And there were people like, you're not in this movie. What in the world? You're lying. , If I were a background actor, I would tell everybody I was in the movie too. What a piece of sh like, oh man, , that would upset me. Like that, that how can you not, I mean like how can you not let that hit your core?

'cause yeah, you are background, but you work pretty hard to get where you are. And these ignorant. Shithead have no idea what it takes to just get to something like that. So yeah. It's like my name is in the credits. Yeah. And it's a speaking role. It's not a background role. Yeah. , And you told us a little bit about it.

I don't know what you can kind of go into, but if you wanna tell the folks at home, like some of , the misery you had to go through to film some of your scenes. Well, , the suit weighed 47 pounds. Oh. It didn't breathe very well. Oh God. , It was record heat wave in Ohio, 98 degrees back in your home turf Kyle.

And it was just, yeah. , What part of Ohio were you in? Were you near, , near Cleveland? Were near like mid Cleveland. Okay. North Minter, Ohio. Headland Beach. Mm-hmm. Yep. I mean, I'm not from Cleveland 'cause it's a dirt city, but um, you know, it's, uh, it is uh, good to know that you grace this date with your presence.

That makes me happy. It's just funny that with social media now and people kind of talking outta their ass about things that they would never understand, that they have the gall , to light somebody up for something that is in fact a fictional story. That they are trying to make some kind of semblance of realism to make their own life make sense.

And really what they need to do is. Go live at the bottom of the ocean apparatus, or, in this case, lake Erie, right? Yes, yes. Oh, you don't have to go very deep there to get that done. Just, you just kind of trudge in and then you grow that fifth arm and it strangles you to death. And then that's that. So , pretty good stuff.

Well, anyone out there that hasn't seen Superman, please go see it. George, what's your role in this movie? For anybody that doesn't know, if you wanna explain it. I'm, , one of the Raptor guards, one of Lexi's super soldiers. Who That means he's on high payroll. Everyone. Yes. I don't know if I'm gonna get that final paycheck, but you'll have to watch the movie to understand that.

Uh, well, speaking of high payroll, we watched Armageddon. What a trip. What a what? A what? A what a what a time to get up. What a journey Some of us were wishing for Armageddon to happen. , George, I'm gonna start with you since you're our guest. Let's talk a little bit about what you remember from Armageddon when it first came out.

What year was, what year was 98, right? Nine, eight. Yeah. So , what do you remember about Armageddon in the time? Well, that was one of those movies I did not see in the theater. I saw it on VHS Oh, after the fact. And it was, I don't know. It was, so there was a time in my life where I would go to Walmart at 2:00 AM and buy like.

VHS tapes or DVDs and Armageddon was part of that time of my life and people were just getting larger television sets and stuff like that. So watching it at home was like kind of cool at the time. So I thought of it a lot more favorably than I do now. Michael Clark Duncan was kind of a star. Yeah. , Of course Bruce Willis was huge, so , it was fun at the time, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, , so how old were you when Armageddon came out? See, I'm not really supposed to be saying all that kind of stuff 'cause they cast me younger. Yeah, no, no. I mean, you can lie. No, I'm fine. Most actors do lie. I, I was 22, so 22. Okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I remember this was like one of the biggest summer blockbusters in a long time in 98. Like obviously it'd be seceded in the future, but it was like. At this point in time, everyone was talking about Armageddon.

It was like all over any TV show you watched or like all the commercials. , And I remember mostly my mom being obsessed with seeing it because my mom like loved the disaster movies. Okay. So she was like, deep impact, oh, we gotta go see that. We gotta go see, day after tomorrow?

All those the world's gonna end movies. And this was like right up her alley. She loves those. So I remember her being excited about it. And then I remember my brother and my cousin watching this a lot on BHS in like our grandparents' basement. We talked about that a little bit with Con Air.

Yeah, it was one of those movies that they watched repeatedly. , . I don't think I ever watched the full thing until I became an adult. But I, I remember seeing all the bits and pieces and who could forget, you know, Aerosmith's God legendary song on that one.

, That was the thing that I remember the most was Aerosmith. This is the Aerosmith movie. It, , I think there are three songs that get played on this. I could be wrong. I know for sure there's two, but I'm pretty sure , there's a third and I'm gonna do some digging before, well, the most, the most mind-fuck part about all this is that the new song that they came out with for this movie is what they play while.

His daughter who was in the movie. Yes. Uh, Tyler is having essentially a sexy, which is always a fun thing to think about. Yeah. You can't forget that Aerosmith Spawn is in the movie too as well. They had to get like so many paychecks from that was, I don't want to miss a thing written for this movie.

Yes. So I believe so. God. And it was, even tagged with Aerosmith originally. No. It was tagged with Celine Dion. And she was like, absolutely not. And then Aerosmith picked it up because Liv Tyler's in the movie and he's like, yeah, I'll give it a shot. And he even, even Steven Tyler was like, I don't know about this.

Like, this isn't our typical song, but we'll try it. And what do you know? It was the only thing that won an Oscar. In this movie was that song and it became a number one hit Damn good for them. I, I remember the music video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That music video was on all the time. What, refresh my memory, 'cause I know I've seen it, but I cannot, I can't, I can't place it.

They use clips from the Oh, do they actually use from the movie? Did they really? Yes. Shit. Yeah. It's really cheesy. Corny, yeah. Oh, oh, okay. , I guess I didn't realize that. I thought it was something completely different, but that, that kinda disappoints me. Yeah. You'd think that they would do something maybe a little bit different for their music video.

That was a big thing in the nineties though. They would always show clips from the movie. 'cause they used it as another marketing tool , and it makes sense without like social media or the internet. I mean, 'cause not really many people were on the internet in 98, you know, it was a new thing. You had to market it some, some other way.

And music videos were popular, especially like we talked about TRL in a previous episode like TRL. We wake up every morning, see that stuff you, if you're watching like another promo and then you're getting the TV commercials, you're like, well this thing feels so huge. I gotta go see this movie now.

Exactly. Yeah. So it kind of mind fucked us all at like that point in time. But, , Andrew, what do you remember about Armageddon? , I did not see it in theaters. I was a little too young. I do remember my parents going, , to see it on a date night, and I got had a babysitter. I remember asking 'em like, what, that was a long date night too.

Oh yeah. I, it, I remember 'cause this was like the first time I ever heard the word Armageddon when I was like six years old. Yeah. , I was, I was asking my parents like, what are you going to see? And they're like, oh, Armageddon. And I was like, what does that mean? And they're like, you know, we don't need to talk about that right now.

Uh, the end of life as we know it. Yeah. That was not something that , they opened, uh, they didn't open that door fully, but I vividly remember asking my mom that question before they went out and had a babysitter for like four hours, you know? , Yeah, probably. And that's probably not even long enough.

Your prob your pa your parents probably walked in at like 6:00 AM the next morning. I remember them coming home super late, like close to midnight. , But this isn't one that , I didn't, I didn't watch it until it was on tv. Like this is like an a MC, like USA type rerun that you, you find at Saturday at like 10:00 PM Yeah.

So, and, and also in the, the next morning or Sunday morning, they loop it a couple of times. A hundred percent. Like we talked about that George, like where it's like, you know, demolition man. What, what'd you say? What was some of the other ones? Like Point break Were some of those movies and Passenger 57 Money Train?

Yeah, just all those movies that you find, find. I'm here for the Money Train episode by executive by the way, decision. . Yeah, that's, what's funny about Armageddon is like he asked his parents what the definition of Armageddon was. I, what I remember most about the word Armageddon is as wrestling fans growing up, I remember the Armageddon Pay-per-view that came out in December.

Yes, yes. So, , as a child, I always wondered if they stole it from this movie and not knowing that it was just , a word, you know, like a right. Like demolition or like end of the world, you know? So I never put two and two together. I just thought that WWF at the time just stole the name Armageddon and made a pay-per-view out of it.

Nice. So I was an idiot as a child. Two thinks we think as a idiot, oh, my kid's an idiot. Like, I mean, people people people are like, oh, he's so smart. I'm like, I trick this motherfucker every day. Like, I literally trick this motherfucker into doing stuff every day. He's got an undeveloped brain. He's not, he's not that smart.

Might be intuitive or curious, but smart. I mean, we could use a different word there, right? , I have to, find different ways to trick 'em. Yeah. Over time. But you do it. But I still trick them every day, you and I. And I imagine that's the, the parenting technique Kyle's gonna go with probably. But honestly it's gotta be a lot of like shunning and a lot of like, you know, just like asking them questions and they're just being silence.

So I think I'm gonna get them used to just. Silence. What is it? What's this dog? What is that? A dog? No, it's a cat. And then just leave it there. We're not gonna, we're not really gonna venture too far into it. So Father of the year, um, thank you, Kyle. What do you remember about Armageddon as a kid? , this was like a on TV watch on like a Saturday, and it was, , hard to follow as a child, mostly because it's a Michael Bay movie and there are, I think the average cut in this movie is like 1.5 seconds long.

Oh, I know. Oh, Michael, it's very hard to follow. You know, we asked Jamie and Derek on the last episode, how long it took for the editor to k himself I think this movie would take even far less. Oh, I was, well, the, the question would be how many editors did they go through because they k themselves?

Jamie, Derek, this week we're asking you how many editors did they go through in the making of Armageddon? Over under, I think 15. I was gonna, I was gonna say 15. 15. Oh no, I was gonna say at least five or six. Those six 15 is a little over Dramaticized.

But you get what we're trying to go. It's a little hyperbolic. George, you're a Hollywood star. , How many are you thinking? I have no idea, but I wonder who the head editor was. It makes me curious how many head editors did they have in this? Yeah. How much therapy did he go to afterwards? Oh my God.

The cuts and this. It's insane. , , Kyle, before we grab some juicy numbers from Andrew, I also , wanna test your energy levels today. And I wanna ask in, world ending terms. How do you feel? What's your mood? , I feel like, if the common cold, like a mild fever that we didn't have any antibiotics for ravaged the entire world to the point where it just like shut everything down.

Uh, so like COVID for years, I don't know what you're talking about. Okay. Um, something just really mundane and dumb 'cause people couldn't wash their fucking hands and, wear a goddamn mask. , It's kind of, it's kind where I'm something completely preventable is where I'm, where I'm feeling at right now.

, There you go. Purely preventable as Kyle at this moment in time, but also mundane and just kind of annoying. Yeah. . And dragging, just annoying. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. That's very specific. I appreciate that. Yeah. So yeah, it was, thank you for the little peek into , how you're doing and feeling.

We appreciate it. It's really great. Yeah. Things are really going well. Awesome. , So Andrew, let's talk about the blockbuster in this blockbuster. Oh yeah. Oh boy. , I actually, I wasn't terribly surprised when I saw these numbers. I do wanna ask George, can you, do you think, you wanna guess the budget on this film?

Oh yeah. 198 million. You're not far off. Woo. It was about 140 million. Okay. That's what Box Office Mojo says. I did a Google search. It was right around 140 million. So that's a lot lower than I thought. I thought it was gonna, you were either right or it'd be a little even higher. I thought 140 for the time being, it's a two and a half hour movie.

I know, but with explosions every five seconds. But for 90, 19, 98, 140 million is, is quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. So see, the titles exploded. Yeah. Exploded. Like the letters went every which direction? Yeah. The piece of the a, you know, the, the loop of the m it was like that was worth 30 million right there. Yeah.

If they had shown the dinosaurs that they talked about at the beginning, oh my God, that would've, oh, that would've been anything that would've been over. Yeah. That, that was another 50 million right there. Right. So yeah, that's laying on the cutting room floor. But 140 million, , domestic opening was a cool 36 million.

So a good chunk , out of that one 40, , domestic altogether, 201.5 million. Okay. International 352 million. And then altogether world, that's probably for Russian worldwide, collectively international and domestic, $554 million. So a little bit of a success, I would say. I would say half a million.

They tripled their budgets, so, and we didn't get to see that, which is. When you adjust for inflation, this, I believe was Walt Disney's highest grossing, , film that would ever, that are produced under them ever. Okay. That would make sense.

I mean that, especially in 98, I mean, if you adjust for inflation, that's probably gotta be close to a billion dollars now. Yeah. And a couple hundred billion you said. Did you say Walt Disney? It's massive. Yeah. Disney, yeah. I think Walt Disney Company, I think they produced, oh, it's Jerry Bruckheimer now.

They they did it, at least at the time. Did, I did not know that, but fascinating. , But yeah, 'cause Disney like sold a lot of money. We'll talk about this right now. 'cause Disney actually kept some of the scenes in that, , Michael Bay wanted to cut. Oh. , There's a scene involving animal crackers, , that Disney was pretty persistent to keep, and Michael Bay wanted it gone.

Hey. And then another scene with Bruce Willis, one point for Michael Bay there. , There's scene with Bruce Willis and his daughter. , Michael Bay wanted to cut that 'cause he wanted no emotional value in this movie at all. He wanted, he was like, they wanted to be a Michael Bay movie.

Yeah. , This is cutting the tension. Ugh, I can't do this. . But to compromise, he just throws in swooping, panning shots and an exploding satellite immediately after the scene ends.

Jesus. Amazing. So was it. Thank you. Michael Bay. Was it Disney's idea to get Aerosmith on board? Or who, who had that bright idea? , I think Disney just capitalized on Aerosmith after that. 'cause wasn't that, I think so. A rock and roller coaster was right around that time too. Had to have been. I think Disney was just like, oh, we're in the Aerosmith phase.

I'm actually, I'm 30 years after Aerosmith. I'm gonna look that up because , I think , they had Aerosmith on the budget. It would make sense Role. Like that makes perfect sense. And then the W WFS stole the Armageddon name. Yeah. This movie created everything. There you go. George, did you ever ride the Rock and Roller coaster? Oh, no, no. July 29th, 1999. So shortly after this movie premiered, , a year later. That means that they were building it. Yeah. For that. And they had, , they already had, , Aerosmith on the budget roll.

So, so since we will give you a brief, like, to know what we're talking about. So in, , Hollywood Studios, there's a roller coaster. It's a fun roller coaster, but it's like an, it's not gonna be around for much longer. It's gonna be, or the same, you know, fashion that it is now, it's gonna be a Muppets roller coaster, Muppets roller coaster.

, But , they have a rollercoaster where it's like indoors, it's all like space. It's their like second space mountain, basically. And it's aero. Yeah, it's Aerosmith. Sorry. , You get in like the queue or the waiting line and like. , Steven Tyler and the band Come on some screen. They're like, Hey guys, , we're late for the show.

Do you wanna help us get there in time? Our cab's gonna roll up any minute and our limo's gonna roll up any minute now. Well, we gotta make it there within like a minute, or we're gonna be late and you pile in and that's an awful Steven Tyler impression. Yeah, I was gonna say, George, what would you rate his, Steven Tyler's, he, he's more like, uh, he's even like higher up, but like, he sounds horrible when he talks.

He really does. He's like a rat from rat to, I mean, he kind of sounds like that , he's done so much, so many drugs that he's damaged his fucking vocal chords and also the singing that he did. But that was great in spirit. Thank you. The, it was the spirit. It wasn't necessarily, you capture the spirit of Steven Tyler for me, but you get in these, limousine shaped cars and they blast you off zero to 60 because you're in a rush and you do all these flips and turns and it's done within 30 seconds.

It's the shortest rollercoaster ever. And while you're, you're riding a, , Aerosmith song plays and the headphones or the speakers that are behind your head, and it's a random song. It's either like, sweet emotion or, , walk this way or like a running list of like five or six that go through dude.

Looks like a lady. Yeah, that's another one I'm pretty sure. , But , it's like a 32nd roller coaster and you're in and out and it's indoors and that's all. And , it's all dart too. It's dark. Yeah. So you get like, a lot of neon effects. But it, it's, it fun. It's fun, it's fun. Especially when you get sweet emotion, I think is the, yeah.

Sweet emotion was the best one. . And it was the most intense Disney coaster there was, because, , Disney doesn't have many, it killed a child. , I don't did it really? It killed it killed a child because the child was stand up or something like that.

Or No, it was like the child was , too short to ride the ride. Oh. And the parents pitched a fit so much that the crew members was like, okay, let him on, let the child on. And when it went zero to 60 in the first operations of it, , the kids whiplash killed, like, broke his neck.

Jesus killed, the kid. Family sued and then they changed the rollercoaster. So now it doesn't go as fast on the, the immediate zero still, it's still pretty fast though. You know, good on, good on Disney , for really upping the stakes of a rollercoaster. It's really life or death and I appreciate that. Good. I commend them. Good for you. That Yeah. Army get in the coaster. It really is. Does you might actually die. Well with that. Uh, little segue, why don't we, why don't we discuss the movie?

Yeah. You talk about the death of a child on a coaster. I think it's, we should hop into the, into the movie. , So before, before we like get into it too. Bruce Willis was obviously not the first choice. I don't know if anybody knew that. , Michael Bay won Sean Connery and didn't, and then they decided, like when they were working with oil diggers on this, like they, they really just wanted someone younger, which they landed on Bruce Willis.

So Yeah. They didn't Sean Connery. Yeah, Sean. Oh my. I mean, Sean Connery would've been a bit older because there was a moment, you know, towards the beginning. I was like, is Liv Tyler actually his daughter? Like, 'cause this was when Bruce Willis was probably like, what, in his forties? Maybe late thirties. Like, he was definitely forties.

He was definitely his forties. Yeah, he was forties because he got started in acting in, in at like 32, I think. But he's not that old. , He's pretty old. Okay. He's 69, 70. Yeah. So, so he would've been in his forties, like 42. Yeah. So he'd been about the same age. But he doesn't look that old.

No. Is the thing. And Liv Tyler does look quite a bit older. Like, she looks like she's at least like 22 or 23. She looks like the same age as him almost at some point. Yeah. Bruce Will is is just very youthful looking in this movie. So I think Sean Connery would've been a more mature. Older looking fella, I guess, but I mean, I'm not complaining.

They didn't see the rock, apparently. Oh, no. I think The Rock was after this, right? Rock was 99. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. So I guess he was off doing the Rock after this. So, and Bruce Willis, , didn't really wanna take the role either. , As a side note, he got screwed over by the same company on another movie that they dropped the ball on, and he was gonna make a big payday.

So they offered him Armageddon as a make good, and it was just a huge payday. So Bruce Willis took it. He made, but , he said the script was shit. , Which you'll hear that a lot now. It was, yeah, it was. , And another acting choice here is the, the guy that plays the Russian cosmonaut, , yeah, Peter Storm, he was a second option.

They get, they actually had a Russian actor , who was stage trained. , And he read the script and said, this is space nonsense. I'm not doing this. And step back. These are heaven also bad for him. So this is the subtitle of the movie is, , Armageddon, space Nonsense. So let's get into some space nonsense.

Yeah. Andrew, where does this movie open up? , We're, I'm pretty sure it's a, a Shot of Earth, right? There's a narrator, there's a, talking about narrat. It's, I'm pretty sure it's Charles Hesson is the narrator. It is, is it actually, it's, mm-hmm. Um, good for me. But he's narrating, I don't know what period we're in.

It was 15 million years ago. There are dinosaurs walking on the face, the planet, , he discusses the impact of, , an asteroid that , hits the globe. It's, , six times more powerful than a nuclear weapon and wipes out, , the dinosaurs. And that's essentially, and it's like it'll happen again.

It'll happen again. The only matter of time is when, or something like that. Yeah. Something. Yeah. , And then, you know, we see, , the title screen of. Armageddon, ,  , it looks like , the background or like the coloring of, the letters is like what the sun looks like. And then it explodes as we were alluding to, into bits and pieces.

And you have letters of Armageddon flying off in different directions in space. And , that is the opening, opening title scene if you'll, yeah. And then you cut over to a space station, right? Yeah, yeah. , I guess this just American astronaut is doing some work on the space station. Yeah. I didn't quite know what he was doing.

I think that was Peter or something like that. I don't think he did. Yeah, either. He was doing something on a satellite. He was fixing a satellite of some kind, and it was like, he was the first time he was ever up there. Also, there was no, like, I didn't see a shuttle there. I, I think they mentioned there being one, but there was no umbilical on him.

He was just out there. Yeah. So that's, you go ahead and do strike number one of about 87. , And so that's, that doesn't make any fucking sense. I was gonna say, Kyle, you, you bring up a great point because he talks about, this is strike one.

, Did you guys know that NASA shows this to all new recruits? They show Armageddon as part of their training to all new recruits. Did not. They call it spot the inefficiencies. There's 168 scientifically incorrect. Protocols, procedures, physics, things, all this. Wait, so you're telling me Michael Bay didn't consult, , specialists who work in the outer space?

Well, no, the problem is he did. Oh, really? He did. And then he was, quoted as saying, nobody's really gonna be paying that much attention to it. It's a movie that he was like, yeah, fucking thanks, Mike. I mean, yes and no. I let things and no slide, but like obviously I think we all knew that there were multiple things that Yeah.

Did not, , I didn't know that NASA treated this as a pop quiz, and they said it's the, the most , engaging training that they do because people watch this movie and they have a whole sheet that they write all these things down and there's 168 of them to see if they can catch all of them.

Oh, wow. So I love that. So Kyle caught the first one, so Kyle's on his way to passing the day. But yeah, it moves quickly along. They're communicating back with, , with Houston , in nasa, which who is in Houston? , Billy Bob Thornton. Bob Thornton, the great Billy Bob Thornton.

Landman. Yeah. He land man, he makes a drilling movie and now he's on a drilling television show. I actually, enjoyed him in this film. He didn't have to do much. He was essentially just, no, but he was good. Billy Bob Thornton, his lines, his delivery. , He was solid. , But no shit. Yeah, what , we'll get to chase's, , favorite line later.

, But it gets quickly aggressive and dark fast. 'cause they're communicating with, , these people up in space and all of a sudden it, it goes dark. And why does it go dark, George? What happens exactly. They start getting bombarded , with asteroid shrapnel. Asteroid shrapnel. And, uh, , it heads to earth.

But you know, that ship gets blown up and people like on earth, like see the explosion in the sky. 'cause they're just past the atmosphere. They're not like deep in the outer space. But, you know, like the challenger explodes in the sky and it's like, oh shit, this is a national tragedy. , There was some good tension because like, there was, , when the first pieces of the astro started hitting the ship, it's just ripping through it.

And I'm like, oh, this would suck. Like, you know, and I could see it happening. It's not like out of the realm of possibility, but , then they just start doing these giant explosions that like, I don't like. How do explosions work in space? I don't really know, Kyle. You would be So they don't, they, don't really have in space.

If they did, it'd be like inside of something that holds air, because you need to have air like oxygen to make something explode, essentially. But I could be wrong. I don't know if there's other kinds of explosions, but the ones that we're talking about, there are no like massive fireballs because it's a fucking vacuum.

And, , there is no way for oxygen to exist because there's no fucking atmosphere. So anytime you see an explosion in this fucking movie, , it's not real. It's fake. It's just, a oversight. It's dumb as hell. So stupid. And that, that was on my first note. I was like, Nope, that didn't happen.

But I, 'cause I, I thought like they could have easily just did , the asteroid hitting it and then the thing just fallen outta sky. That's terrifying enough. 'cause , you're falling to a, that's already terrifying. You're falling to a slow death. You're gonna burn up on reentry. Or if you don't burn up, you, , asphyxiate and, you know, choke to death.

Yeah. Because there's no oxygen. Oxygen. Well, and an astronaut too, if you remember his like mask gets blown off. So, which should be instant death. But he starts screaming. Your blood would fo you hear him scream. Yeah. You can hear him scream. Mm-hmm. Did watch Alien. Yeah. We all know in space, Michael Bay had to have those moments in there, though.

, He had to get people hooked emotionally. Because honestly, if we watched it unfold, like it would in space, it would be kind of horrifying, but not in the same way. It would hit you the way it, this this was, they did it with gravity. Yeah, exactly. And gravity made Horr horrifying and that was good.

Oh man. Yeah. Horrifying. But, the spaceship explodes. Houston and nasa, they're kind of distraught. , And then don't we do a little quick, cut to New York City or just a quick mm-hmm. Quick cut to New York City and this with office, not just any place in New York. , You're on the, like , the Brooklyn Bridge or whatever.

Eddie, Eddie Griffin. Yes. But, but what we've all missed, we've all missed, , we've all forgotten you talking about the Twin Tower shot. Yeah. Yes, I am. Well, yeah, I mean, and we're gonna come back. We're gonna, we're gonna come to that in a second. Yes. It needs to be discussed. But I'll you feckless swine.

How dare. I do wanna, I wanna ask you, George, when you go back and watch these movies, , we've talked about it at length on this podcast. So any movie we see from the nineties that featured New York, one of , the crowning shots is gonna be.

The Twin Towers. Right. Always. So do you have a emotional attachment to those shots now? Like are they kinda weird to you? Do you think about it at all when you see it? Or is it like, a forgotten memory? More of a forgotten memory? I saw so many movies that had the twin towers in them.

Yeah. Growing up. I mean, when that happened, I was, I was a good bit older, you know, so it just doesn't look weird to me. It looked weirder. There was a transitional point where they took the twin towers outta movies, like the first Spider-Man movie that came out. Yeah, I remember that. Yes. Yeah, the first ad for Spider-Man, he catches a helicopter between the Twin Towers.

Yeah. Yeah. And they pull that ad. Yeah. It wasn't a poster too. He was like actually on the twin tower and you could see it reflected in his eye. And then they, they took the reflection out and it's just supposed to be a random skyscraper now, but like they used, that was like, that was the New York skyline for so long.

I mean, they were the tallest, two tallest buildings in the world at that point. Yes. I mean, it was an icon, obviously. And then to have that just completely ripped from us is, yeah. Something that I don't think we could ever not discuss. Like it's just a tangible part of our core memories. Like unfortunately it is a core memory.

The reason why I bring it up is because we will, we literally seen this wrapping up on the ground in like three minutes. They come back to the Chin Towers on the exit shop. Oh yeah. From there, the North Tower, they looking a little similar. North Tower hit, had a direct hit at the top.

It was, looked like, it was honestly a similar place where the original plane had hit. And I was like, damn, , that's jarring. , I actually, I wrote that down. I was like, north Tower took a direct hit, , and basically the same location. Little did they know three years later, that's exactly what it would be.

It's crazy. Or did they know or did they, Hey, it was an inside job. Careful now the government's listening. It was, yeah, everything's an inside job. It was an inside hey job who, he's right inside. I wanna say, going back to that, that first little cut to New York, there was this awful like punk rock song that was playing.

I don't know what it was, but it pissed me off. It was like a grunge rock. It was grunge gr It was grunge dumb bullshit. It was awful. It was so bad. I don't know what it was, but it just annoyed me and pissed me off. I was like, why would you pick this song? Why, like what? It was very bad. What a jarring transition into something just so.

I don't know. Uncomfortable. And it was, it was the producer's, like sons band or something. Something like to put that in there. Yeah. But it was bad. And then we followed this guy who had a dog, , it was Eddie Griffin, the comedian. Yeah. Yes. , I cannot remember the dog's name. , He had a funny name. , Had like a human name. Yeah. Did It was like print. I thought it was Prince something. But, regardless, , there, he's getting into New York City somehow some way. I don't really know what , he's like bike.

He's biking. That's what it was. I'm gonna get you a motorcycle one day. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna, we're gonna be riding around, we're gonna be kings of this city. We're gonna be a style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they end up in like this weird little part of town, I don't know what he exactly he's doing.

But, he is like talking to this girl and then, , the dog goes over and starts like chewing on some Godzilla action figures that are set up on the corner Yeah. To kinda like take a shot at the Godzilla movie.

Yeah, yeah. Yep. And I kind of thought that that's where they were going with it. Yeah. Because there was nothing else. This guy didn't have a news stand. He wasn't selling Godzilla action figures. He was just a random guy that had set up Godzilla action figures and an inflatable Godzilla on , the side of New York, which I guess.

It's New York. I mean, it's not Yeah, , that's very plausible. You have, you have street vendors and people set up shit all the time. Yeah. You never know what they're gonna be selling, but, , and so they get into an argument and then what happens next? George? Oh, well, Eddie Griffin says something racist To the guy?

Yes. Oh, yeah. What does he, wait, what does he say? He says something like, I'm gonna kick your fat pineapple eating ass or something. Yes. Do you remember? Yes. Yes. That's exactly what it was. . He says, if I wasn't Christian then proceeds to make a racist comment.

Which has, I mean, that's a lot right there, right? Yes. That's a lot of in depth things. Just double. It's very nineties. Yeah, very nineties. , And then an asteroid just finds them and immediately it hits, it hits the, the street vendor. , He gets sent like hundreds of feet into the ground and it should have killed not only him, but everyone around him, but somehow he was the only one to be killed.

Yeah. That was my biggest thing with that is like, , if those are coming down and like they hit the ground, there's gonna be like an impact. Like there was for like an artillery shell. Like it's gonna like concuss, anybody close to that. It's just like, if they're not immediately just like.

Eviscerated, they're going to, they're like, their lungs are gonna be like, blown out. Like they're gonna have, like, their internal organs are gonna rupture. , It, you wouldn't be like getting up like, whoa, that was a doozy as well. And kill. Oh, my dog is in the hole. You can't kill, you can't kill the dog.

Same was Frankie sir. Frankie, okay. , He wasn't killed, sir. Frankie the Frenchy. Yes. Uh, he wasn't killed, , but he was dangling in that hole on what seemed like a 30 foot leash. Did you all catch? That's a long fucking leash. Yeah. , It was just so stupid. What caught the leash fucking thing? , You're getting blown back by an astro.

I guess. I guess he had his hand on it the entire time. But wouldn't that have taken him down into the hole or the dog back with him? Or If it was on his bike, it still would've pulled him and the force of that asteroid was far greater than the weight of that bicycle. So anyway, it would've killed everybody in a 30 foot radius.

And then why are we talking about it? , But regardless, done, the, these asteroid pellets or pieces , are hitting this part of New York. It looked like it was somewhere on like the, the Upper East or Upper West or, or something. Maybe. Maybe like Lower East actually, now that I think about it.

Because you weren't too far from World Trade. , And I want to add a fact in here too, especially George, you just got off a set where you did a lot of practical effects for Superman. These meteor strikes were practical. They weren't all cg. Oh, really? And it actually took out a camera crew. Oh, that's okay.

Oh hell yeah. Oh, really? Took out a camera crew. That's cool. What do you mean when you say takeout? Shay? What are you saying when you say takeout? They weren't using real asteroids, but they were using stuff that was heavy enough and shooting them into like sound stages.

And they were falling and it, like a camera crew just didn't get outta the way quick enough on their dolly and it hit the camera , and the crew. So it it almost injured them. They all So they were all killed them all? Yeah. No, it didn't kill them. They weren't like casualties of this film and their families didn't get a check for $200, but , they were able to get outta the way and some of it was on miniature scale, so they built miniatures and shot it down, which a lot of respect there.

But again, it's early nineties. If Michael Bay does this film, again, it's all cg, so I'm not gonna give him too much credit. , They didn't wanna do all CG in this. Most, most people didn't do all CG at that time. They had to do a little bit of everything. And CG was so bad back then. Yeah. It was not good.

Yeah. , You were still working with practical. One more line in the scene before we move on. I've given this, we've given this scene way too much time as it is, but after that asteroid hit, there were other ones that kept, you know, flying in, taking out some buildings, some cars, cars were flying, people , were leaving their cabs.

I think a cab driver screamed out something like, Saddam Hussein is bombing us. I thought, yeah, it is. Mr. Cooper. Yes. Is Mark Curry from hanging with Mr. Cooper? Yes, you're right. , , I cackled at that. I was just like, how timely. And also like how ignorant, 'cause Saddam Hu saying would never have that capability , of even launching bombs that far at all.

That's not what the American public thinks. No, of course not. Yeah. Not, not in the nineties. They thought they thought he would, destroy half the world, but never had that capability. But, uh, then I think we're under the oil rig, right?

Oh, is it the oil rig? Or do we go to nasa? . I can't remember. , They chop it up so much, so much. , It's hard to , remember where it's, we don't have, we don't have to be exact, but I'm pretty sure, according to my notes, the next, , it's useless scene after useless scene.

It is. The next, bit , is the oil rig. , It's Bruce Willis hitting off that golf mat into the protesters boats. There's protesters who drove, you know, a, I don't know, wasn't even it in the middle of like the Atlantic Ocean or like the Gulf or something like that. They were protesting about, you know, how oil, no, no, no, no.

It wasn't, it wasn't, they weren't in the Gulf. They were in the Indo-Pacific somewhere. Whatever. They were in the ocean. They were in the, in the ocean. Not whatever. Be accurate, Andrew, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. In should be in the middle of the ocean too. Like these protestors, like are protesting the, oil drilling in the middle of the ocean and he's just launching golf balls into like their seated area and it's, you know, they're like, Hey, stop.

, But this is, I think the, just the introduction of our driller Drilling team, crew team, the roughneck crew roughneck. So we get a little bit of everybody, George, who's all on this team. If you want to go down these lists of these high class actors. We've got Ben Affleck, you know, Benna Fleck. Yeah. Who, not Affleck Ben A Fleck, but who happens to be drilling?

Oh yeah. Other things. , I'm gonna, oh yeah. Oh yes. Um, just so you know, I'm gonna be calling him Ben Affleck the entire time that works. There is, , a between two Ferns episode with Zach Gki where he keeps dropping Ben Affleck, but he keeps saying Ben Fleck to like throw his, , interviewer off. And I find it hilarious.

And I hated Ben Affleck in this movie. So he's Ben a Fleck. Okay. But go on. Yeah. He was drilling in multiple ways, is saying,, we have Michael Clark Duncan, right? Clark Duncan, yes. Yeah, is Owen Wilson there yet? Already's not. He's there, but we don't see him until we get to NASA later. Okay. Spoiler alert, we have Will Patton, who was the coach in, , remember the Titans? I forgot Chick is his name.

Yeah. Yes. And Armageddon. Great actor. Really, really underrated actor. Great. , Chick. , I think that's pretty much, and then of course Bruce Willis. I think it's pretty much it. , And it's a quick pan of all of 'em. They all have like a couple of lines. It's just that, like you said, it's a quick introduction.

And then we get Ben Affleck drilling in into Bruce Willis' daughter, and this is where I'm like, what the hell? Because Bruce Willis just immediately pulls out a shotgun. He finds out that a fleck is sleeping with his daughter and he pulls out a shotgun and, he goes on like a rampage throughout the oil reg just shooting his shotgun, relentlessly spraying it around like crowds.

I don't think that, think that's really smart to do in an oil r It doesn't hit shit. Yeah. But like, just ricochets off metal all the time. Someone does get shot because of, I think Ben actually gets shot in the leg. Yeah. Because as he gets, and he was like, I didn't, I was just a pepper in his legs. I didn't mean to get him.

I was like, you were shooting into random crowds of people with a 12 gauge shotgun, but is shooting a live gun and an oil rig. That incessantly really a smart decision. Does that happen, George? I mean, I don't think that's smart. We knew what we were getting into. I know. Words Armageddon exploded. You're right, you're right.

So, I shouldn't question these things, but I mean, why would you have a shotgun, I guess pirates maybe? No, you probably want some sort of weapon. Yeah, no, I I But even pirates. Can't they have security? No, they have security that does. , They either, either like governments or like on onsite security.

Like they don't need to have a fucking, he doesn't need to have a first, but if you're a roughneck, Kyle, you're gonna have a shotgun. You're gonna have, he, that's his baby. That's his second child. You can't take that from him. Let's, let's bring my daughter on an oil rig with a bunch of horny roughnecks. Yeah. And then's the protective of her. And she's the only girl on the oil rig too. And she doesn't even call him dad.

I think he keeps saying like, I just want you to call me dad. Doesn't he like, have that line? Yeah. I'm like, so is he actually her dad? I was really confused. I was like, is he older brother or dad here? Like, what the fuck is happening? It it's just a quick dynamic and , Ben Afleck and, , Bruce Willis have this, , they have a tumultuous relationship.

They, yeah. They don't really like each other too much. Well, he likes them, but he keeps doing shit that pisses him off and it jeopardizes. He's kind of like a young rebel Ben. Yeah. Ben a Fleck is like a young version of himself in a sense. Yeah. Who happens to be interested in his daughter. . But the fast forward, I I I, I think the next scene is one of my favorite scenes in the movie though is 'cause , there's like a scramble at NASA to figure out what was happening. And then there's this random cut to this guy in this observatory.

Yes. Oh my God. Yes. And he has the wife that hates him and he hates her bad. Yeah. And , it's random 'cause it looks like his house. Yeah. But it's like an observatory. He has like a, like a giant, like his own telescope. Yeah. Yeah. It is like out, what does she say? Like your pot pie sitting your Stouffer's pot pie.

He's been sitting there for the kitchen 10 hours. He's like, well, why don't you bring it to me? And it took you nine extra hours to get pissed off about that. Yeah. Um, and it's the fact that it's a stofer is all she had to do was heat it up. And then he's like, he's like, well, go get me my phone book.

I can get the guys from NASA on the line. I think I found something here. And then she was like, do I look like I'm Carl Slave to you? And he is like, get the book, get the book, get the book. And then he starts freaking out. He's like, get the fucking book. Like he drops some expletives and like just lays into her is like, I don't want to hear it.

Do what I'm asking. Right. And that is it. Yeah. That's it. That is all you see of this man. This scene. There is one more scene , that we come back. Oh, there is one more scene. Yes. Yeah, it's a quick cut because he gets to name the asteroid. Yeah. Yeah. And uh, he wants to name it after his bitch wife is what he said.

Oh, yes. Yes. It literally is., I wanna name this happen. My wife that's so sucking it's bitch that she is something like that. What's crazy about this scene though, is he's able, with his telescope to see this asteroid. They make NASA look like just a bunch of like idiots in this movie.

Like, they make it look like a bunch of children. 'cause like , the oil diggers and , the, this random guy in his house with his own observatory are, show it up.

NASA left and right. NASA just looks like they're just clueless about everything that's going on. , But , what do we get to next? , , I think we're back in NASA and they're trying to come up with , a plan, , that would fit within the 18 day window. When that asteroid is supposed to make impact, how do we destroy it?

What do we gotta do? , And it was Jason Isaacs, , who was some, like, astrophysicist was like, , talking to , the main like general of what do you even call that position? , I, he was some super, you know, super general. Super general. Yeah., He was like, yeah, , yeah, we can't just blow it up. That won't do any, anything.

, You have to drill and blow it up from the inside because their idea is they're like, it's too close to earth. We can't just explode it or it just rains down shards. Which , when they went back, , I think this was a trivia that I read for this. If, , since Michael Bay is, , the purveyor of knowledge for everything.

He is omniscient, he is God. , They, the actual reverse of that is what would actually work. So if you detonated a bomb on it to push it off course, that would work better than to blow it into a million bits so that it would just shotgun pepper the fucking earth. It would not split cleanly in two.

There's no way you could even predict that would happen. But then that wouldn't help our next plot point, Kyle. Yeah. , We need to push, so we need to hire some drillers Who are the best drillers in the world? To, you know, guys, get up to that asteroid. So their plan to, Kyle, I'm really sorry. I'm so sorry.

It's okay. Don't let it happen again. Send a letter to Michael Bay. , But I'm so sorry to like Michael Bay's plan in this is to blow the asteroid into two clean halves, which according to Kyle and everyone with common knowledge would not happen. And it's supposed to go around the earth, both pieces cleanly, blow, blow it with a nuke go around so long as it, , doesn't reach the threshold window.

The critical barrier, critical barrier, which is, , the atmosphere, I guess, or just the, the edge, the atmosphere or , it doesn't have time to split the earth then it just, or whatever. Yeah. , And it doesn't matter any chunk of this asteroid that hits earth, everyone's dead. Yeah. That's how big this asteroid is.

So this is, they're calling it the global killer. So, Ooh. , They've termed the asteroid, , the global killer. And now they need to go find the best drillers in who's the best driller in the world. Yes. That would be Bruce Willis. A k Harry Stamper. Yes. So dumb name.

We're gonna call him. Which really sounds like a porn name. It does. And I asked you who Harry Stamper is, the best world class driller. And I'm sure they made jokes like that, you know, when they had their script and they were on set, like, I mean, how could you not?

I'm sure most of these actors are so only I can drill this deep. Gotta put my stamp on it, if you will. Yeah. Michael Clark Duncan made a hundred percent. Yeah. You know, he did. , So they go and get drillers and bring them back to nasa and you know, this first like, part of this movie is an hour long of nothing happening.

Yeah. It's just a, it's so much expose, so much buildup. Yes. Again, the, we told you the exposition, asteroids hitting earth, they're hiring drillers to go up and that's it. But the next, the next scenes that, , commence after this, you would think it would be getting closer to the end point.

But we're not even like halfway there. No, no, no. They spend an hour just like dumping shit on you and it's just quick and it's quick cut. So it feels like you've watched only 20 minutes of the movie, but it's been an hour. And I don't mean that in a good way. No, that was like, no, not at all. It just felt weird.

Um, so an hour in, you're like, I'm praying for death. , And then , they, so they bring everybody back to nasa and we're kind of skipping some scenes, but it's not necessary. It's not, there's so much filler there. There's something annoying about them bringing them all back to NASA for me. So they said all these guys were scattered across the globe?

Yeah. They all show up at NASA at the exact same time. Same time. And it wasn't even, yeah, and it wasn't even , fully discussed, like how they got off the rig. I think when the commanding general came and picked stamper up, he like yelled back. He was like, pay I'm and get him off the rig. But , that was it.

Yeah. And when they're going after 'em, they're all like ex-convicts too. So like Yeah, folks gotta scene with Michael, Michael Clark. Duncan riding his motorcycle away from the cops, trying to bring him in. He's like, you'll never get me. And he's like riding, he's like, he's also like living in like North Dakota or some like random shit.

He's like, if you're gonna be a black criminal, North Dakota, probably not. It is not the place to live, live. That's essentially Canada. You know what he was talking about? You can blend in. Easy guy, easy on the racist stuff. Sorry. It just, it just didn't make sense. And then, and then they find Steve Hashimi and he's in this like, club club, club bar in like New Orleans or so talking to this girl and the FBI's like, you're coming with us.

And he's like, how old are you? And that's the third time he's made that joke in the first, so you're like, yeah. It gets pretty fucking old pretty quick with him. And you're what? That's a, that's a, a played out joke. And you're like, am I supposed to root for this guy, who is maybe 30, but looks like he's 60. Yeah. Steve Buscemi always. A lot of people don't know that r Kelly was originally supposed to play. Oh God. Hey Rock hounds. Hey, it fits. It fits. Oh, oh man. Diddy was too busy with the Godzilla movie to, to help out on this one. Yeah, right. So, oh, that one didn't land.

, Moving on. , So it's baby oil, not crude oil. Don't need a rig for that. No. Oh God. Um, so they, they get 'em into NASA and now they're gonna start training these people. And this is where Ben Affleck, Ben Affleck, , went on Ben Fleck. Thank you. He talks about this story, , on a podcast or something.

I listened to the interview. , He was at the table read for this. And while they're reading through this particular scene, he puts down his paper and asks Michael Bay, who's like riding on the chalkboard or something and says, how is it easier to train? Oil drillers to be astronauts and is to train astronauts to be oil drillers.

And Michael Bay looks at him, puts his pen down and says, how about you shut the fuck up? And that was the end of that. I mean, that was my question. Hey, as Kyle said, Michael Bay is omniscient. He knows everything, so he knows all he's gone. Don't question him, question him. And that's the biggest question that everyone's ever asked about this movie, , we know we're suspending disbelief to a level anytime we watch a movie, but this is so absurd.

It's fucking stupid. It's what it is. And it's something that I feel like, and I'll ask everybody here, I can't get over it. The whole time I was watching this movie, the question kept coming up and kept coming up and kept coming up. , I've gotten over a number of things in this movie. I'll get over it.

Like, it definitely lingers, but , I don't know. It just, , it makes you say like, there's so much stupid shit that happens in this movie that you just have to accept it. And I've done that with other movies and I'm gonna do it with this one too. , , you can accept one thing.

And it makes it easier to accept the others. Yeah. But if you can't accept this one thing, , it's just so much harder to accept everything else that happens after, again, they make NASA look like idiots. Yeah. 'cause they're like, and these roughnecks come in, they're like, nasa, you suck. You're stupid.

And NASA's like, all, I'm like, it's just, they're not, like they get, they get hardcore cuts. Yes. I mean, Billy Bob Thornton was the perfect person. He was to not sound like super educated. He, he was very folksy, you know? Yeah. Bridge, bridge that gap. Yeah.. So my favorite line in the movie that actually made me chuckle, and I thought it was good writing, was, , he says, , he says, sir, our, , budget's only $250 billion. , That accounts for maybe 3% of the sky and no offense, but it's a big ass guy. And he says it with that.

It's a big ass guy. Yeah. It's and he says it so matter of factly. And so I love that line from Billy Bob. Do, there was another line, , that Ste bi Shemi had that I liked, and it was when they were like asking a 12-year-old girl. Sure. No, , they were asking him like, if he was, it was essentially like, are you on board with this mission or not?

And he says, beat me up, Scotty. And he says it with just , this snarly smile and that, you know, nasally town. I, I, you know, very Steve, when did that line come in? Have you seen Pulp Fiction? Oh yeah. Like when he had a gun, I think there was a gun introduced or something like.

Was that, when was that when they were on the asteroid and he pulled out the gun? Think, yeah. Yeah. That was , further down. Okay. So you got like two guys from Pulp Fiction. Yeah. In the movie that are referencing directly. Yeah. , They were shoehorning that as quickly as they could. Course they were like, I, you know, Michael Bayes like, Hey, hey, make a Pulp Fiction reference.

But moving forward, , they start training. And these guys are horrible at training. , Michael Clark, Duncan starts crying in , the stress room where they're doing stress tests on people. Yeah. Just by making 'em feel uncomfortable. They're cholesterol's high.

Their blood pressure's high. They're out of shape. They're not Michael Clark. Duncan dances on like a EKG machine and he was butt ass naked. Yeah. He had a speedo on, like a leopard. Prince Speedo. Yeah. , , so, they're not qualified at all, which who would've thought whatever.

And then the, and then I think the person who's like conducting the test is like, they cannot go into space. This is not, they're not qualified. And Billy Bob's like, well, it's happening. Well, they live. And he's like, honestly, I don't know how they lived at this point. And he is like, perfect all I need. So like, they, well, the weird thing is he asked the shrink that Yeah.

That's who was the shrink. Yes. The shrink. Can they physically. Make it. That's all I care about. I'm like, well, why did you get the psychological evaluations? Is all you cared about? What was the point? Yeah. Like why did they go? They wasted so much time and energy and effort. They only have 18 days to do this, which is already like microscopic amount of time when you're trying to get into space.

Shoot around gravitational pools. Like, ah. But anyway, they, they all get this test. They start training. This is when aj, which is Ben Flacks character Bene Flack. Yeah. We, we have to mention AJ's name because it gets said so many fucking times. So they're training under the water, right? They're doing the pressurized training and trying to see if the drill work underneath simulates, you know, what it'd be like in space.

Their plan is to take two teams and each team, that way they have a backup team just in case, and they're taking two drills up in space, which we will get to how that actually works. Yeah. But they're taking, and the drills were designed by bruce Willis. Oh yeah. Bruce Willis designed the drill. Yeah.

They stole , the patent, patent design or the design and didn't patent it or whatever. And it was one of the worst lines of the movie was earlier where, , in my opinion, Bruce Willis says, , drilling is a science. It's an art. Is it a science or is it an art? Yeah, it can't be both. Those are two different things.

Yeah. Scientology would beg to differ on that. It would, , you know, the thing that bothered me the most, it wasn't, , the fact that it would make more sense to send astronauts to space and train them on drilling.

It was the fact that all of these dudes, these drillers like. Didn't seem to give a shit that the world was ending and they were just dicking off around everybody around. Very selfish. Yeah. They're super selfish. They're dumb. They just wanna party. The world's ending in less than 18 days. You're some of the only people who are aware of it, and you don't seem freaked out, frazzled.

You aren't scared at all. You just want to keep living your dumb ordinary life. And to be fair, they were fairly dumb, but there would be a level of awareness of, holy shit, Steve's character has two masters from Yeah, from mit IT Yeah. He was like, they did not talk about how the world was ending and like how that is, if the world was ending George and like 12 days, what would you be doing?

What would you be saying? What would the conversations you'd be having with people? I'd just be with my family. You know, that, that, you know. Yeah. But you would be cognizant and probably in like a state of like, wow, , this is it. And Yeah. I wouldn't be at a PG 13 strip club. I tell you, if I were gonna be a strip club, I would actually see some titties.

It would, yeah. It wouldn't be like the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition strip club they went to. No. Yeah, no, , that's all the budget Michael Bay could afford. It just, it just pisses me off that there was, there was no level of . Fear or like emotional awareness that they could be dying. All of them.

They do a little scene where at the beginning it's small. Small, yeah. And they forget about it pretty quickly. Very quickly. , And then to your point too, they get 'em all trained up. Really, AJ and Bruce Willis are arguing nonstop, basically. And people are like, you can replace him. You can replace him.

He's like, no, I need him. I was like, why? I hate him, but I need him. Yeah. I was like, why do you need him? He's , screwed up every bit of the training. He's the whole way through. He's stolen your daughter and you clearly hate that too. So, and their daughter is insufferable in this, so like awful.

She is, because she is the most selfish human being. She does not care about the earth. All she cares about is getting him back. And it was like, you do understand if they're not successful, not only are they not coming back, but you and everyone else is gonna die too. Like, but to just, to wrap , this section up where we're at, they've been through training.

They've done all the tests. It's taken an hour and a half to get through all this shit in the movie. Ouch. They haven't even been like launched into space yet. They haven't even like. Blasted off. That's right. Everybody. We are closing in on the hour and a half mark. We're probably like an hour 45, like an hour 50.

That asteroid would've hit three times over before they even get into space. Yeah, I It's just , they get a break to what George said. They all get to spend one last night on earth, which Steve, she's character, goes out, takes a hundred thousand dollars, loan it in a strip club strip, put it like 60% interest or something.

Yeah. Uh, why would he not just like, gamble it or whatever? Right. He gets confronted by some pinheads that he calls them literal, like pinheads at this strip club. They're like, yo, share the wealth. He ends up getting arrested, no harm done. He's back at NASA or Florida the next day. Yeah. I don't know what other, oh, , chick goes and visits his wife or his girlfriend.

April O'Neill from Teenage Turtles. Yes. , We find out that he's a dad has a son. And April O'Neal, the, the wife or girlfriend tells the little boy that's a salesman. It's like, okay, wait. Nice little cover there. That's stupid. Yeah. Until he becomes an astronaut. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's a star. Fucking, clearly that's not, yeah, because they like, yeah, yeah. We'll get there. But he like, he puts a little spaceship on the step. He is like, give this to him. You don't have to tell him who it's from. Just give it to him. And I might have something big coming. Just pay attention. Yeah. You might be dying with the rest of us, so God, but just a dumb little cover up there of.

, The kid, , that he has that he doesn't know about. There's more, there's so many questions there. Yeah. And they just like, yeah. I was like, don't even put the scene in there if you don't. And this is where we get to maybe the worst scene in the entire movie. That's a bold statement, but go ahead. Yeah.

'cause I was gonna say, this is where I just like, like just completely shut off and didn't pay attention really. But it's Bene Fleck and Liv Tyler sitting out in some field in the middle of, of like a farm. Yep. , And Liv Tyler's dress is like slightly open, revealing, like her stomach and bene fleck is like playing with like animal crackers, like on her belly and like chest and Yeah.

They're having a moment. And I think Ben Flecks like, you know, age old question I think is, are animal crackers crackers or are they cookies? Because either, you know, they're small but they're sweet. So like, what is it? What the f are we talking about here? You're about to be launched off into space and you're trying to have some like pseudo intellectual discussion about an animal cracker.

And it was just so, so cringey and essentially trying to play with it on her stomach. Her stomach, like getting closer. And this is somebody's Batman. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Oh no. , And I think this is when I don't wanna miss a thing by Aerosmith. Ftz starts playing. Yeah, she's getting slow script to her dad.

Dad's voice in the background. She's getting like touched with animal crackers while they discuss if they're actually crackers to her dad's song. In the middle of this bright ass field with a bunch of like blue filters in it. It is one of the cringes scenes you will ever see in a big budget action.

Honestly, every single scene that involved Benna Fleck and Liv Tyler we're fucking up. Cringey as shit. They were just awful. Yeah. It wasn't even worth a time, time. I just, , just zoned out. I just fast forwarded through all that. I'm not gonna lie. Just, , that's okay. You didn't, you didn't miss much there.

It doesn't add anything. , We know that he loves her and I think he like ends up giving her a ring or something. Yeah. That we're, that's the next scene. They get back to the station. It's the night before they blast out, cut the animal cracker scene and just go into the ring scene.

He, he starts to, he proposes to her into some like centrifugal. I don't even know what the hell it was. Yeah. It was like some, like piece of a rocket that was just sitting in like an open bay that wasn't being used or sitting there. He proposes to her, you don't even see him, say, I will you marry me.

He just puts the ring on her finger. It's like an up close shot of the ring sliding on her finger. A shitty ring too. It was a shitty ring, and it was like, wow. That's an awful proposal. It's an awful, he make a lot of money out there working on those rigs. Yeah. You know, not to, not to mention he has NASA money now too.

Like he could have found something and he just like, casual is like, will you marry me? Just ring gets slid on the finger and like, that's it. I was like, okay. That's cute. A cheap way to, you know, cute. But animal cracker tied ribbon on the, are they, are they crackers or are they whatever, whatever. Uh, one more cringey scene.

It was when they were on their way to like, one more. Well, there's more, but for me, the level of cringiness was just. Off the chart and like I almost uncomfortable to the point where I didn't wanna watch, I should have just fast forwarded like Kyle, but they were on their way to like the launchpad and Affleck.

Affleck, sorry. Afleck picks up Liv Tyler and starts singing, leaving on a jet plane by Peter, Paul and Mary. Oh. And everybody else starts singing. Everyone starts to like join in and it's like, shut up. No one wants to hear this. None of these roughnecks are gonna join in and know the lyrics to leaving on a jet plane and sing in unison before they get blasted off into space , and potentially die.

And then we had another cringey scene, so we were just gonna boom, boom, boom, boom. Guess so could It was Bruce Willis and his daughter. Oh yeah. And he is just trying to like, apologize to her. It was the least cringey of the three and she was like. I love you for what you did, dad. Yeah, you did to me, daddy.

Like this is a,, I'm so happy I was along for all of it. Daddy. I I'm part of the reason I, I don't even fucking know what she said, but it was just dumb, stupid fucking dialogue that did not need to be there, Gretchen. This does not pass the Bechtel test. By the way, if you're curious, Gretchen's not listening.

She's not, but it doesn't pass the Bechtel test in case anyone does care. Poorly written female character again. Yeah. Um, uh, and Tyler's not good in this either, but here's the deal, folks. We still have yet to launch off into space, right? We're talking about all this stupid shit. We're an hour into our podcast.

Yeah. We have not launched. We're an hour and 13 in it. We haven't even gotten into space, which is where we know everything goes down so well. , And so now we get a shot of the shuttles. Believe it or not, they had those shuttles built. NASA let, , Michael Bay film at nasa. So some of the scenes that you see are actually in the NASA space program.

Right on. Wow. I bet they never read that. Yeah, they, well now they got a training video out of it, so Yeah. Yeah. They saved them a lot of money. ,, Michael Bay was like, I need shuttles built for this movie. So they actually went out and built them and the people that built them modeled them after the NASA shuttles to the point to where the ones that they were shooting inside of NASA engineers were like, Hey, we have to compliment you.

The wiring looks pretty accurate. So the only accurate thing in this movie is the shuttles Nice. Yeah. Believe it or not, so deserves a round of applause, but I think they all got blown up immediately anyway, so all that craftsmanship didn't even matter. Yeah. , But

what's their first step, George? What are they gonna do once they get into space? I don't remember. They fuel up at that Russian like, oh yeah, they have to stop, stop whatever. See Peter sto air. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And have him cause difficulty. Yeah, of course. , It goes haywire because there's a leak in like the fuel hose and the whole like, space station like blows up.

But of course, you know, bene fleck and storm air somehow make their way back through to hop on one of the shuttles that hadn't closed its door yet. And they both get off at the nick of time while the station explodes in space again. Like it wouldn't, you just flew through a 20 minute scene too. 'cause that scene took that scene.

We don't need, it was exploding for like five minutes. We don't seem to dissect it. It was so long. But , they do pick up , the Russian cosmonaut and he storm air. He is definitely written by an American who hates Russians because he, but he is a Swedish man. , The only thing that we need to talk about here, I'm just going gonna cut you off.

Thank you. Great. You're welcome. And what, what is it? How the fuck are they? Shut up. Shut the fuck up. I was waiting. You were taking your fucking time. The suspension. It's calling dramatic pause Andrew, just shut up. Shut up. You're not Michael Bay. Just get to the point. He doesn't suspend anything.

Everything. How. Shut up Chase. How the fuck were they walking around an outer fucking space. Can we go there real quick please? I did. You know, they were walking around, weren't they? They at multiple, running at multiple points in this. They were, they were running. They were literally running. Yeah. , Again, that's what like number 52 out of 87.

It's 168. Yeah. We've lost number. Quite a few. Yeah. But that's just so fucking lazy. Yeah. Like, don't have the scene. Just don't do it. , And they're like, that space shuttle was exploding. The Russian one that they were docking at, where him and Ben Affleck are like, trying to get through and , is exploding.

It's knocking holes into this like shuttle, and they're not wearing their helmets, so it's like, immediately the oxygen would've been sucked out and they would've been sucked out into space. So , it was really hard. But I, all I wanna talk about is the scene is , the Russian character himself.

He is. Very out there. , Very much like how Americans think all Russians are are, yes. , Very like, vuka and like hitting things with Hammer. My family is, , come, I come from a long line of engineers in Russia. We were proud. Like just like, you know, it was like, calm down, chill. Yeah. Get it. He like, he's like hitting, like things with wrenches and stuff to get 'em to start.

And he's just very like, like blunt and like direct, like not a lot of like social cues, if you will. Which I, , again, stereotypes that Americans are projecting on all Russians. But that's Peter Sto me's , brand of Russian though. Sure. He doesn't play like just a regular Russian dude. Yeah. It is always gotta be like a crazy, crazy Russian guy.

Aggressive with a tinge of darkness. Yeah. Maybe more than a tinge. But yeah. , So now , they've somehow managed to get away and , it's the near satellite too that they blow up too, whatever. So it's like , big piece of Russian equipment that the US is just like, well, fuck it. It's blown up.

It didn't work. And , they make it seem like it's a piece of shit. So it wasn't, it was a jab at Russian cosmonaut. Yeah. They were like, it's been around for 15 years. It's a little, been a little bit rickety, but it'll work. Yeah. But anyway, moving forward, their plan now is to take the two shuttles and , I guess circle the moon at the right time.

, It's very convoluted. They're trying to circle the moon at the right time so they can pick up , the trajectory to land on this asteroid. Right. Land on this asteroid. Yeah. Let's, let's, let's just go ahead and remember though, how long it took the Apollo missions and every other mission subsequently to get to the Moon Manda.

Was it at less than 18 days? Yeah, but was the Apollo, oh, it was a couple days. But was the Apollo flying at 22,000 miles per hour? Honestly, I don't, I don't know. Is that, is that an actual speed that you can I don't, I don't. I mean, so, so you can rere with those shuttles, the inter international, the International Space Station, when an orbit is going at about 17,000 miles an hour around the earth with the earth orbit falling slightly towards Earth, going away from Earth, I have no idea.

But I don't know. I don't think it's 22,000. , And the only way that they explain this, which I do not think this is worth, they were gonna use the gravitational pool of the moon to slingshot them around and pick up the right, yeah, that sounds right. Gravitational pool slingshot. Check. Check it out.

It does not make sense at all. I think, I think Interstellar pulled that idea from Armageddon 'cause he remembered Matthew McConaughey has to slingshot his ship around. , Did Christopher Nolan say Armageddon was the greatest movie ever ridden? Oh, I'm sure he did not. Yeah, he did. Yeah, I think he did. No, he did.

He did? Yeah. I think he just top five. Oh, sorry. , I'm guess I'm ignorant on the Armageddon and comment Conair. Yeah. Big note. Big Nolan. Why did they slingshot instead of sling blading off the, you know, I mean, question. That's a real question, George. Real question. I was waiting for him, like, okay, if we hit the moon and drop a nuke on the moon, the nuke will explode the moon and push us towards the asteroid. Like I was expecting shit like that at this point. But anyway, , they're trying to land and , honestly, no one would ever know what this asteroid's like, , they give them a brief, scientific explanation. It's like, oh, , it's gravelly. It's . Like extremely hot, extremely cold.

It's your gravitational pulses. Might be felt one minute and then not the other, yada, yada yada. Yeah. It's like, we don't, we don't know. We don't know what an asteroid feels like. Like we've never landed on one. And so, well, , they can use advance, like. Satellites and telescopes with not, not the Michael Bay Imaging.

Oh, I'm so again guys. I'm so, but that would make it too easy. Sorry, you guys forgive me. I make it difficult. I guess you, I'm really fucking sorry. So they're gonna try to land on the asteroid and they've got like, a radius they're trying to land in. But it's difficult because there's like an debris, debris field when they're trying to land and, you know, cut to the chase.

One of the ships gets hit and, , crashes. That's exactly what happens. Which brings up a point, which George did you, I laughed my ass off because there's no way this shuttle that's getting ripped apart, right? Like, and one, they're not wearing their helmets at all in this space shuttle as it's going down.

And I was like, you would think when you're flying in that asteroid field, you would put your helmet on and prepare for anything. The shuttle just gets hit. , It hits so many pieces of like, it doesn't explode. It doesn't explode. No. Which is crazy. 'cause everything else in this movie exploded.

Has exploded. And just, I'm not talking about one explosion, I'm talking, it looks like everything's been hit by a nuke in this movie. But this shuttle just takes abuse after abuse and loses its wing. And somehow, you know, the pilots get sucked out of it. Which was really funny. It was very funny. And they scream, they they scream in it as they get sucked out.

Yeah. And the other shuttle hits the, one of the pilots as he is like flying by. He's like, is that the other ship? It's like the what? The independence or something? I don't know. Independence. Free. The independence. And the independence is the one that went down. So, and then the independence lands on there and they think everyone's dead.

So, but they somehow manage to land on the, the asteroid and the other guys keep going. Yeah. 'cause when they, they hit and slide again. The, the shuttle doesn't explode. It just slides a good hundred yards and , Nestles up against a ridge and that's it. No explosions. How convenient. How convenience di know you can't explode the shuttle that has Bruce Willis on.

No, you cannot. Well, and this, this one had, uh, so this had Ben Affleck, Ben Afleck. Ben Alec, sorry, Michael Clark Duncan, Michael Clark Duncan and Peter Storm Air. The, the Russian. Yeah. And, and those are the three survivors. William Fincher. He was on that one. He was on the other one. Oh yeah, he was one with, with Brucey.

Right. And, and on this shuttle too. So , they have some casualties, obviously everyone else dies. And one of the casualties is Owen Wilson, Oscar. They go, over and they're like, Oscar, Oscar, Oscar. And he's like, dead. Yeah. And Owen Wilson didn't know that they killed off his character during filming.

They were like, he had, like, he had shot all of his scenes early and was expecting to come back. And then they sent him a rough cut of the scene where he's dead. And he was like, great. Like he didn't, they killed him off without him knowing it wasn't, I'm sure he was happy. He was like, okay, I don't have to finish this.

Yeah, yeah. I'm good. I'll stay home. Also, , Ben, a flex like Realiz that Oscar was dead was so cringey , I don't know if you remember, but he was like, oh God. Oh God no. And it was just like, dude, I don't believe you at all. Like it. Stop bad. Just stop talking bad. , Just stop. Well, and, and then, so now everyone thinks they're dead, right, George?

And so then they're moving on. And what happens next? Perfect. Right, exactly. The, the, the, it is mind numbing. Like a lot of stuff happens, but I don't remember the order of events. We can honestly, just like the other shuttle lands speed through those other shuttle lands, they start drilling, well, they, the other shuttle lands in the big plot point here is their 26 miles off course.

Yeah. Yeah. And they landed on some type of metal iron, iron ferric. Yes. As, , Steve Buscemi like points out multiple times. Yes. Or steel ferric one of the two, but yeah. Fucking so like we can't drill through that basically. , But they try to and they, and it also messes with the calibration of the instruments or whatever.

Yeah, it does. And it's just much guy magnet, which drilling in space don't think's a thing. , Just gonna say that out here, but you know, I'll let Kyle take that one. I don't know. I mean, drilling in spaces, you could do it. I just, my whole thing is like, I just feel like this is all terribly efficient, the way that they go about doing everything.

And like, they should be willing, they should be able to drill anywhere on the fucking asteroid, not just one spot, because you can't control where you're gonna land. But they gotta get 800 feet down. Kyle, they have to get 800 feet in the aral to drop the nuke that they have on board. And they can't do it with the iron plating.

Yeah. Because they're in a valley, which is already deep. Yeah. But the nuke I did it needs to go eight, 800 feet deep. Yeah. Yeah. 800 feet , with a drill does not sound like very far. No. I don't know. It's not, it's not. But they, it's not, but they still, they drove for miles, miles, miles on the ground.

Like tens of like, not even like tens, like maybe hundreds of miles, maybe even thousands. I don't know. I about that. I, no, not that that would be through the earth support, but like, , I think that, but if you're out in the middle of the ocean, it might be like 3000 feet deep. So at that point, you know Yeah.

But like 800 feet for them is nothing point. No, it's nothing. It's not really, it, it shouldn't really be. And the fact, again, the fact that they were prepared to drink zero for different material with a also, what the fuck is that? Is it not diamond tips? Is it not like titanium? Like, what the fuck is happening?

It's just, eh, eh, just a, eh. A lot of questions, few little answers. , You can't look too deep into it, or it's gonna make your mind a bit numb. Yeah. Yeah. It just doesn't make any fucking sense. But they, like, they start, isn't this when Steve Buscemi starts fucking around with like Gatling gun that they installed all Yeah.

That was reason. They were, they had started to drill and then he, apparently he starts getting like space dementia is what they call it. Yes. Yeah. They just randomly make it up. This make it up. Yeah. I don't even know. And , they tape him up with duct tape in the chair, like every square inch of his body around.

So , he can't get out just like a, you know, a spiral fashion. What, which, and during this time too, before they even drill, like the president's already, like, we lost one ship. They're 26 miles off. Of course. Detonate the nuke. Well, we're, we're not, we're getting close to there because that was before the.

They started drilling again because then they start drilling, they have a malfunction because the transmission blew and they were drilling so hard that , it just blew a tranny. Yeah. Blew a tranny. They kept referring it to it as a tranny to just leave that out there. Yeah. So, yeah. Well, we'll clip that one and send it out to everybody.

They go up into , the ship and then they see that the, the nuke has a countdown of like five minutes, and then they turn to like the, the Air Force captain. They're like, what's going on? He's like, it's outta my hands. It's outta my hands. And as Chase was saying, the president already, you know, declared that we're gonna activate the nukes because we don't have much time before they get to , that threshold before it's too late.

Which honestly, to Kyles point, would've probably been a better plan. Would've been a much better plan. But they wasted five minutes of that PG 13 strip club. Yep. But it was never wasted. To make a long story short, , Bruce Willis goes on some like epic, like tirade grabs, like pinchers, like closes it around the Air Force, , captain's like, , throat and tells him, , this is what's gonna be blah, blah, blah, blah.

We're up here for a reason. Giant Nutcracker. Yeah. It's essentially a giant nutcracker. It chokes him to death or to almost to death and, you know, tells him, you know, this is what it's gonna be and , the captain or whatever, like has a change of heart. And he goes in, he like snips, like a blue line and it stops the countdown and they go back to drilling.

But they couldn't tell, , they were like, is it the red or is it the blue? Yeah. And right at the last second he was like, no, blue. Yeah. Snap. And then oh, oh, and then it stopped. How convenient. It, like right at a second left on the timer. Yeah, because everything has to be that, that close. I thought it was like 2.98 seconds or something.

Something like that. Yeah. It's, it's ridiculous. Like, like how close could you get? You had five minutes and, and it was showed five minutes or four minutes when they were arguing, and then it just cuts to like a second. And at this point, what, like maybe like 30 minutes, 40 minutes is like passed that like their threshold is.

Fast approaching. You think they'd already be there, but I guess time is suspended in space, so you know, let it go. What Bruce Willis says next. What's what we're, what was his line? Houston, we have a problem. Oh yes. Oh my God. I'm like, you just had to do it. You knew it was coming. You knew it was coming, coming.

I knew it was coming at some point in this movie. And then. It, then what? They get the transmission back on, they, the transmission back up. And then guess what? It blows again. And that's when like Max, I think his name is Max, gets like Yed up and dies because there's an explosion or some sort of like, leak of whatever space.

Yeah. , And like someone else dies. One of the other like Air Force, like colonels or captains, it's with the other guy with the red shirts. I think his name was like Gruber. He dies. , And then, you know who's there to save the day. But, , a Fleck and Michael Clark Duncan and the Russian Peter Storm Air, they've driven their, their armadillo all the way across this asteroid because they jumped over a giant, like Grand Canyon type valley by launching themselves over with, you know, which we overlooked that scene.

Projectile, which I don't want to even, we don't need to. It doesn't matter. I don't wanna go back. Don't need to. It's just, it's stupid. It's dumb Uhhuh. But , they get there and, uh, luckily the, the vehicle they have has another drill. It's the back or whatever, how convenient, how convenient, how convenient.

And Bruce is like, oh, AJ Fleck, you're here to save the day. And they reconfigure it and get it set up, and they start drilling. And guess what? They get to 800 feet in no time. Like it happens so quickly. Yeah. There are no more, uh, um, you know, pauses. Pauses or roadblocks. They get to the distance they need to, but then what happens with the nuke?

What happens? It's like, what a, a. , There was like an, a storm, there was like an asteroid like storm that had like a rock storm where, I don't know, there was a jolt of electricity that sent a bunch of these, you know, rocks flying. And you would think that in this rock storm, the nuke would've been hit and would've exploded and killed 'em all.

But I guess it didn't, it only, it only, , deactivated the countdown or the,, demolition device. It, it, it deactivates the signal. The signal. That's what it is. So they can't remote de they can't remotely detonate, so someone's gotta stay behind, which , I was reading where in nasa, this is a big part of the movie is like, this is not how signals work, like in any of this.

Like when we were going around the moon, all this other stuff. So , they were like, there's no way that any of this was possible. , We know none of this was plausible. So, well, Bruce Willis has to make sure he is not in the sequel. Yeah, exactly. , He heg, grudgingly took this movie to begin with, so he was like, no way.

We're doing a sequel. So, and it's funny you say that because like now, because Bruce Willis is about to, well, I'll let we let it get to it. We're almost there. We're almost there to the end. Well, I'll save it then. Andrew, what happens next then? So I should also point out that while this is happening, they go dark.

In nasa and they think they're dead and they don't exactly know what's happening. And Lyft, Tyler is running around the NASA floor, like grabbing people's arms was like, what's happening? What's going on? She's like throwing like 10 temper tantrums. She's who let this, that's why don't, in she is, she tackled Billy Bob Thornton at one point.

Yeah. Why is she allowed on like, , a government property where they are, , going through a highly classified mission. Why is she allowed to run around acting hysterical, which the Globe knows about now. Yeah. They're reporting on it. It is. , And they've reported multiple times, like , it's a failure.

The mission's a failure. Go home and be with your families and then, and we forget about Paris getting destroyed. Yes. I forgot about that because there was one point where, you know, we had a, the New York scene at the beginning, the same thing happens to Paris, but half of Paris gets wiped out.

Literally. Absolutely. Let Pompeii wiped out, which I was okay with actually applauded, thank God. And I know Kyle was feeling the same way. No more, no more Vietnams baby. Thank God. Half of France or half of Paris, France just wiped out. And I think that is when people had to start reporting like, Hey, you know what?

At least it smells better now. That's all I can say. Exactly. And there's not gonna be people burning and protesting because you know what is, they're already burning. They're already burning. Yeah. , And did nobody have a TV in this? Because everybody's crowded around radios. Yes. Yeah. It's 1998. There were TV eight.

They were color televisions. Yeah. And they're like, we're signing off now. Go be with your families and God bless. But, and that's like you're listening to Joe Lewis fight and Yeah. Like the Ali Frazier fight. Yeah. This movie is just really, , fucked with our sense of time and where we are on the actual timeline.

But , we're so close, I promise you. So we were talking about how the, the signal of the, , the nuke had been, it had been destroyed. So someone had to manually do it, meaning someone had to stay behind. So what do they do? They draw for straws. They draw straws to, you know, make sure someone gets picked fairly, I guess.

Yeah. And who was it that got picked? It was bene flack. Bene fleck. And I was like, thank God, thank God. I was like, he's gonna die. I've been wanting him to die the entire time. Yeah. Yes. Let's see, a bro, I've been, honestly, I've been wanting , everyone to die that was on that ship, but like, but it special.

But like, I was like, his character just get rid of him. , He doesn't need to come back and procreate. So Bruce takes him down, , the elevator, you know, he's gonna say his goodbyes, he's gonna be the one that does it. And then at the last second, he like, rips like his oxygen tube out, throws him back in the elevator, closes the elevator, and sends him back up.

And clearly it's Bruce who's gonna be the one , to stay with this nuke and see it through. So, and this scene was originally not gonna happen , in the original movie. They were gonna have everybody come back safely. And they ran it through test audiences. And when test audiences saw Bruce Willis at the end, they were like, ah.

It feels flat. No, someone had to die. Yeah. So they rewrote it as a sacrifice at the end and it got much higher reviews from it. And critic like, liked it a lot more. 'cause they were like, it was a sense of sacrifice to save the world. Plus that man's gonna be just idolized Yeah.

For the rest of the time. But anyway, he chooses to do that and he gets knocked off, like as they're flying off he gets like, shot down the hole that the, they had been drilling because another rock storm just, , randomly comes down right as they're trying to fly away. Yeah. It's conjured up outta nowhere.

And, you know, so another bump in the road, we're not near the end yet folks, and they've got like a minute to set the detonator off and , they, at this point they can't get the ship. The shuttle started up again. So the, the one NASA captain. , She's trying to like, fix some wires and storm air. The Russians yelling at her and he like throws her outta the way and just starts taking , a wrench and like hitting the engine.

Yeah. And it just starts up, as you , as you'd expect. It's like a Buick at Crystal Lake on, , on Friday the 13th. Yes, it is. Like, it's not gonna start when Jason's on the way. No. Yeah, you gotta beat it with a wrench. You gotta spend time. Yeah. It's it. And so eventually they get up in the air.

Bruce Willis is trying to fight to get climb up. This like, he wouldn't be able to, we would be dead gets, but he climbs up, gets he climbs up, he gets the detonator. He grabs a detonator. He is got like six seconds left. But he starts like doing like a little monologue and I'm like, just push the button, bro.

Like, you know, you are limited on time. Right? Grab the button, push it like you don't have this time to say this is for you Gracie. He almost runs outta time and hits it like one second and he hits the button. It detonates and people see it up in the sky. They, they rejoice. The, the shuttle gets away and, and they rejoice when they see the explosion.

Yeah. Q Aerosmith. But, and, and then you hear this voice come over and says, the asteroid's gonna miss us. It's gonna miss us by 400 miles. Oh. And you see the two equal parts on the map. They have, they, they're flying around either side of the earth. And then you could tell they, they were shoehorning that in.

They were like, we had to put this in late, like late. 'cause the guy goes, and all the debris is, is, is, is evaporating in the atmosphere. So it's like they're covering all their bases on that. And just like quick 32nd exposition. And the only city besides New York that gets major damage, well, actually there was that one place in Asia that we didn't talk about, but the only city, maybe like a typhoon or something like, yeah.

The only city that really suffered extreme casualties was Paris. Thank God. That's it. Just Paris, France and Paris. And then New York wasn't terribly, terribly, like literally half of Paris was like wiped off the map. Mean New York seemed worse. Yeah. Have so, but they get away in the shuttle. They land, , they get on the ground.

They start, I don't want to close my eyes. Yeah. Starts playing, chick or fall asleep. Steve Bus semi gets attacked by that stripper. They start like profusely, like making out on the runway. , April O'Neal shows up. Yeah. With the kid. The kid's like, oh no, that's my dad. That's my dad I've never met. Let's be excited about it.

Yeah. Let's let her who's not married to him. Yeah. Onto the runway. And, , and then, Liv, Tyler and Fleck embrace and kiss and they zoom in and, ,, it cuts to black, , credit start to roll, and then we're in the church and Fleck and Liv Tyler are getting married and Aerosmith still playing and you know, and they shot it on actual film. Oh yeah. It's like, yeah. Oh, they, , who is their wedding videographer?

Yeah. That showed up with like super 16. Yeah. Shot their wedding like red cameras. Yeah. Like I wonder how much that cost. Well, I'm sure that they had, he was pro the government probably gave him so much money for life on that. Like, maybe, I don't know. I guess nasa, NASA has a budget. Who the fuck cares at this point?

Yeah. You know. Well that's it. That's Armageddon. Yeah. The movie cuts out their wedding. Is it? And that's the end of the movie. Thank God we're done. Sorry, I've been trying to get through this shit for like so long, just half hours. I don dunno if you heard that reverb, but I just slammed my fist in the table because.

I, experienced a real sense of relief that we're done talking about this movie. Yeah. There was like no suspense in how we felt about that movie. Well, let's, George, let's start with you. Mm-hmm. Now that you've watched it as a full developed adult mm-hmm. How did you feel about Armageddon? How does it compare to seeing it, what you said 22?

Yeah. You were an adult then, but like 22 is still a kid, so, I mean, it was hot garbage, you know. Um, , it was horrible. I mean, I've had knee surgeries that were better than that. , It's just so hard to sit through it. Yeah. Like I, I sat through that movie because I was coming to this podcast, like I would not have been able to, we'll send you a check.

I would not have been able to make it through otherwise. It was, yeah. , That was, yeah. , Did you get like a nostalgia rush watching it at all? I got this rush of like, man, I was a dumb ass back in 1998 because like, I actually kind of enjoyed this movie.

Back then. Yeah. It was like, man, this is one of those that I kind of wish I'd never watched Rewatched to like, just think it's, it's good. The only way that you rewatch this is you're with friends and you're drinking. Yeah. Or on like some something psychedelic or something like that. Man, I don't even know if the psychedelic, I think the psychedelics would create a bad trip at this point on this one.

Yeah. Might, I would not watch that on, on trims or, or anything of that sort. So Andrew, Andrew, you would never, Andrew, you would never take shrimps. Exactly. But if I did, I would not watch Armageddon. Yeah, that would be the first choice. , Kyle, how'd you feel? , I feel pretty terrible. I've been wasted some time on this one.

, It was better than Batman, , Robin by a lot. But, you know, that's still like a really, really low bar. , If it wasn't for like, some of , the comedic scenes that they put in there, this, this to me felt more like a comedy than, and I mean that genuinely. Yes. Like I feel like they, they had to put that in there and keep it in there.

And Steve Buscemi and like o Owen Wilson and like, they kind of carried parts of this movie. Not Ben Flex, just with No, no, but I, here's the thing, like we've talked about many times. You can only act a letter grade at most, above the script that you're given. And this was an s script, so they were making a deep performance out of it.

And , they made it honestly, at least entertaining at points. But it was a trudge. , Like I said in the beginning, , the suspense was never really built at any point. They didn't really think anything. Like, it was just kinda like, okay, this is happening now.

There was no stakes. It wasn't like we, we already know at the beginning the world's gonna end if they don't get it. Okay, well that's that. So anything else that happens in between then? There wasn't like a talk about that. Well, that might, there might not be a trip home, you know, that's, there might not be, you know, like it was just kinda like, they may or may not make it home and that's okay.

Well that, that kind of, the only, the only character that even like remotely like, kind of shifts towards that is Steve bmi. 'cause he takes out that huge loan with all the interest. 'cause he, like, I'm not gonna make it back. So, which is kind of an interesting take on it. 'cause he's kind of a deviant, this is what a deviant would do on their last night verse.

So I was like, I kind of felt that scene a little bit, even though it was a , PG 13 strip club. They didn't really expound upon that, you know. No, it was very, they had to put it in there. Superficial, very surface level. Yeah. But, so , I didn't really have a giant appreciation for this movie in any way, shape, or form.

Andrew, what about you? So I'm gonna dissent just a little bit here. Okay. I thought it was way too long. And I wanted to go to bed a lot earlier than I did last night. I was telling George that when I first let him into the building at the apartment, I was like, ah, that movie kept me up. I was supposed to be in bed like, like by like 10 30.

I didn't fall asleep till like two or three because it just wired me. Yeah. So I'm pissed about that, but it was stupid and there was so many things wrong with it, but , I was entertained. Like I was, I watched it in my bed on my laptop and I could have gone to bed. I could have watched it in parts, but I kept going and I was mildly entertained and I appreciate that.

, Was it, which is the name of the game? Yeah. Was it surface level? Yes. Were there many plot holes? Yes. Was it Swiss Cheese? Fairly unbelievable. A hundred percent. But did I enjoy watching most of it? Yeah, I actually did. , Do I think it's some, you know, crowning jewel, some super achievement? No, not at all.

But it's a dumb action comedy. , It, I think it knows that, and, , it's so cheesy and big and stupid that you take it for what it is and don't try to make it anything more. And I'm okay with that. And I enjoyed watching. I wish it wasn't almost three hours in length, but , I had a good time. , I will say I remembered most of this movie when I was watching it, and , , that's how many times I watched it as a kid, and I did not realize that.

Like, 'cause so stupid. I remember lines, I remember scenes. I remember I was like, man, I don't even have to watch this movie. I just need to watch the beginning to, and it refreshed everything in my mind . Yeah. I was like, okay. But it did, some of it came in different lights, you know, and that's why we do this show.

So as a kid, like the movie's fun 'cause it's, you're just seeing a bunch of explosions. You're not really putting two and two together. But the animal cracker scene that, that some of the, that I wish I didn't have to have watched, you know? But tho those back-to-back scenes there really drug it down. I was like, you could cut all that.

Made this movie an if this movie is an hour 40, 45, , I may look at it differently, but because it's Yeah, a lot better, two and a half hours, you're trying to make a statement and that statement failed. Yeah. And that's part of it. Like I, I'm already at the point now where three, three hour movies almost don't justify the runtime.

Most of the time. There are , certain exceptions to every rule, but, that was my whole thought process was like, I have to, , I kept looking at the clock and that's never a good thing when you're watching a movie, you want to escape into that world. But it was so unbelievable and so long, I just couldn't, and I was like, all, I just, this is just a memory to me at this point, but George Kyle mentioned something and I wanna get your take on this.

So talk about acting over a bad script. 'cause he said, whatever acting you do can't level up bad writing. Absolutely not. I mean, , Tim Phillips, who's one of my acting coaches, like, , he's a guy that trained with Sanford Mine, Meisner back in the day. , He's been, , Robert Duvall's, acting coach.

You know, he always would coaches on auditions and sometimes the writing was just so bad for the audition. He's like, there's nothing you can do acting wise that is going to improve what's here. So just leave it out there , and keep moving. Hope it sticks. Yeah. Yeah. They really did have all like an all star cast They did in this.

They did. , And that's saved a lot of it. Truly. Yes. Yes. If you had just gotten a bunch of. Blisters and people we didn't know. Social media influencers like God, I show speed Logan Paul. I mean, that's what's happening right now. Yeah. , You're getting, like, I, I just got finished with a project that had some social media influencers on and they're not there to act, you know?

No. They're there to get paid and put themselves out there and, garner attention. Yeah, yeah. To get their automatic, their little built in audience. I can imagine if you try to remake that movie with the exact same script right now, it would with some flaw. Yeah. Yeah. And , I don't understand how it made the movie , the money that it did being so long, because you can't really turn over theaters No.

When you have a movie that long. No. So, , I got off, got off a little bit, but, , yeah, , you can't out act No. The script, you know, I guess there are exceptions where like, there are movies where they didn't have the script complete. Mm-hmm. And you've had like, the actors kind of like take over like the first Ironman movie.

Yeah. They didn't have a complete script. They just kind of made it up as they went along and it ended up being a okay movie or like any Adam McKay movie where it's like, it's all just kind of a direction and you have to improv through it, which he gets the best improv actors to do that. So Yeah, that works.

Yeah. But otherwise, like, if it's just going in a terrible direction and you can't change that direction, like what do you, what do you do? You know, and I mean, when I was doing some kind of, you know, I did a lot of original works when I was acting, , and a lot of times I would just fucking change the sentence around to make it sound better and less clunky.

And if they hated it, I'd be like, you want me to change it? I'll change it. But otherwise, do you care if I just kind of get the gist of what you're trying to say out? And usually they would say yes, but when you get into , bigger movies, I'm sure you can attest to this George, like when they make the script is there and you say with something script, otherwise they rewrite it and that's a whole different thing.

Yeah. I was gonna ask like, how was , that process with Superman? Like, , now that you can talk about it a little bit more. Yeah. Well, so James Gunn did have like a clear vision. There are things that he wanted, but you could go off the script a little bit and , that's the thing you don't ask permission for in a movie.

You just, as long as it's not gonna blow up a certain scene, you say this thing that you think is best. Yeah. And if you don't get direction next time around to do something different, you just keep going with it. Yeah. Yeah. Is that leveled, like, so for instance, , if you have a movie like this, Bruce Willis can obviously go off script.

, He's built that rapport. But if you, like say for someone like you that has like just a few lines, if you go off script, is that like kind of more or less shunned? , He treated everybody the same. Oh, nice. Yeah. That's one thing I can say about that dude. , He was calling me by my first name within hours of my first day on set.

That's crazy. Every time George, George this, , he works with the same people over and over too. So you heard everyone's name. Yeah. You didn't hear like, Hey, go get the, this guy in this department to do this. It was like, Hey, go talk to Henry about such and such. , Henry is his DP slash , this guy also runs the primary camera.

Yeah. And like you would hear Henry's name over and over and over again and you would hear a lot of costumers names over. He knew everyone's name. Yeah. You know, there were 300 people on set. I mean, I didn't, it's crazy. Obviously didn't hear him call out all 300 people's names, but. I never heard him say that guy, that girl, you know, , if he was saying something about a person Yeah, he, it was always by name.

That's probably why you get the best performances in his movies or at least in, in those, those style of movies. 'cause in my opinion, he always does the most fun of the, comic book movies because they're, they are fun,, and he, they're written like a comic book. And, and it was interesting hearing you talk about him and saying, you know, he was going to comic book shops.

Yeah. He was going to comic book shops like it during like, downtime. And we were working a long day. So like, yeah, but you would see a social media post where he was at this comic bookstore or whatever. , He wasn't reading him on set. At least , that I saw. But like, he was like super engaged with everything super detailed, knew exactly what he wanted, knew exactly what he didn't want and he was like super kind to everybody.

Yeah. Well that, that's, Hey, James Gunn right there. Everyone just give a, give a round of applause in their card, James Gunn. , And go see Superman. That's the big thing we got out of this. But, , George, I'm gonna start with you. Did, does Armageddon hold up? I think I know where we're going, but I mean, it's full of holes.

But no, it does not. , It does not hold up. , That's not a movie that I could see showing my kid like a couple of years from now and saying, oh, this is great. You know? Yeah. It's one of those, you show your, like, your kid a segment or two of it and be like, look at how awful this is. Like, kind of thing.

Maybe. Yeah, maybe, maybe. Or, or say, uh, hey, you know, like if my kid wanted to act, I could say, okay, you've seen Bruce Willis do this, but if you go back and watch this movie, this is just part of what we go through. Yeah. You, there's some stuff that you may or may not be proud of. , The two acting critics I have to my name, I'm, , they're something so, uh, but you know, you do it to do it right.

Kyle, does Armageddon hold up? , I wanna say yes so badly, but I think Andrew's gonna do that for me, so I'm gonna say no just because it's not, it is fun to watch. It is fun to, to listen to the funny moments in it. It's aesthetically fine, but it's so hard to watch. First of all, the amount of cuts in this movie and the amount of explosions, and I mean, this genuinely.

Are just mind numbing. It's just so hard to keep track of everything. Kinda like George was saying, like, I don't know where we are now. I don't know when the Point movie we are because it all kind of bleeds together and that's not a plus for any movie. And no matter if it intended to do that or not, it's just not good.

But the reason why it's not gonna pass the litmus test for me is because it's not, , they didn't market this as a com action comedy. It's a action drama, if anything. And , it's maybe even a, you could say a sci-fi drama, but , it's very much an action comedy like Andrew was saying, like, this is kind of just a funny movie.

And because it's not marketed as that and because it didn't like, it didn't present itself as that. I can't really say like, yes, because I wasn't entertained the whole time. The reasons why , we're entertained were not because of the way the movie is, which most of the movies that we're talking about, like they do hold up because of the fact that they are the movie that they made, if that makes any sense.

So I just can't really, that's a good point. I can't really just like say yes and I, I want to, because like there are some good performances in this, surprisingly, and , it's not a bad movie on his face, but it does not hold up for me. Okay. Andrew, do you say what Kyle thinks you're gonna say? Well, that was rude of him.

, I want, I wanted the suspense. , I will say I agree with him though on it is not what it says. It is like con air, like that is an action Comedy. Comedy, yeah. And it was written to be that way. I don't think this movie was written to be a comedy. It wasn't. , So there are red flags there. , But I will say, in my personal opinion, , my lasting feeling is I was entertained.

, I laughed. I was into or invested in what I was watching, maybe not to the fullest level, but I didn't feel like it was a complete waste of time. Yes, it was lengthy and yes, there were so many potholes and things they could have wrapped up , much more simpler than what they did. But it wasn't the worst thing I've seen.

And I will say it holds up. But I will say that I would never watch this again, just to watch it. Like, I'm not gonna be sitting down on a Saturday night and be like, Hey honey, let's watch Arm again tonight. , Let's get through that. No, that I would be watching it for either background noise or to like play a drinking game.

So yes, I think it holds up, but take in mind what I said is to the re-watch ability. And that should, , that should leave you at, a good place of judgment. So I like that. , I'm gonna say no. I'm with Kyle. I want to say yes, but , I just can't I, that, that length of time and when I'm checking my watch during a movie that tells me everything I need to know that was all I needed.

I didn't need anything else. Yeah. And again, to your point, it'd be a drinking game or something like you throw on with some friends like late at night and just laugh at that could work, but it just does not hold up to me, so.

Fair enough. But does it hold up to everyone else? Do we know what the IMDB scores are? Yeah, we gotta give our scores. I know what it is. I looked it up before we started, , recording. But I want to go around, give some scores here just to see where we, , where we stand. So George, give us , a classic IMDB score are your own for Armageddon.

You know what I, ,

I'm gonna put it right in the middle. It's 10 stars on I md, right? Yeah. Yeah. So something, yeah, like point outta 10. , I'm going to give it like a, around a 6.5. Oh wow. Wow. Okay. And the reason why I am going to give it a 6.5 instead of just like giving it a five is that. If it were playing on that TV over there right now, and I walked into the room, I would actually sit and watch it for a while.

But the world we live in with like watching everything on demand, I'm not gonna start that movie knowing how long it is. , No. But , I will sit and watch it if it just happens to be on. So Interesting. It's, yeah. Yeah. That's a good 6.5. Yeah. What would you say? Sorry. , 5.9 is what I'm gonna give it. All right.

So not in the sixes just yet, but right on the cusp. I I'm gonna go five two. Okay. Kyle, what about you? , I'm gonna go probably a 5 3 5 4. I'd say five four. Five four. Okay. What, what is the actual IMDB for IMDB was 6.7. So George is pretty close. George was, was pretty close. Do we think that's a nostalgia bump?

I do. I a hundred percent do. Because when you look at this movie for what it is and all its flaws, it does not, it was, it was panned by critics too when it came out. Like critics absolutely dumped all over it. Yes, they should. Yeah. , audiences well received it because it was the action blockbuster the summer.

I think people just look at the cast and they assume that it really can't be that bad. And to the cast credit, they brought it up a level. From where it would've been without their performances. But I do think 6.7 is big high. So , we also have to see some of the movies coming out. At the time it was those over the top action movies like we talked about.

Yeah. Independence Day, like it was all in that same vein. You know The Rock? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like stupid absurd movies. But people loved those at the time. Yeah. So this was just another one that capitalized. It also came out with two other, end of the world movies I think it was Deep Impact, right?

I dunno, maybe I meant to look it up, but I didn't. , So there was two asteroid movies that also came out at the same time as Armageddon. , There were a lot of conspiracy theories at the time. There were like, there can conditioning us for when , the asteroid hits in a couple of years. Conspiracies in the nineties are so different than what , they are now.

Yeah, man. They're so tame. They're so tame. Comparatively speaking. Yeah. , Before we get outta here, George, I do wanna ask you, , to share your story with us about Superman. 'cause , , that was the first movie you saw.

Oh yeah. , My parents took me to see Superman when I was two. , Now my son is two and I'm in Superman, so that's kind of cool, you know. That's awesome. , Full circle. My parents say that I would take a towel and like run around the house with it tucked down the back of my shirt. , My son has Superman pajamas that have a Velcro cape.

And, , he runs around with that. And , there's actually a book called something like Friends and Foes Superman, like a kid's book. And there is a character with the armor that I wore in Superman. So every time my son gets to that page he's like, it's daddy. You know? Wow. So, uh, that's amazing. The movie has a little bit of extra meaning to me.

Yeah. Because I get to be in something that my kid thinks is really cool. Yeah. You know, as opposed to just feeding my selfish actor need for attention or whatever, you know? Oh, and then that's why you do it, right? Like those connections. 'cause like think about the movies we watched as kids. I mean, that's what we do with this podcast.

But if we think about Christopher Reeves or who you saw in these movies and what they meant and how they inspired you, now you get to inspire your kid and that's amazing. Yeah. Like that's, yeah. That's pretty cool.

It's incredible. You get to be a part of that, that we all got to live and we all don't get that, to share that you're literally in a piece of media that your son gets to enjoy and consume. Like, not many people get to say they do that, so that is just awesome until he gets older and he gets like hateful or something and then they're like, yeah, right.

Wasn't your dad in Superman? He's like. Yeah. That old thing. Yeah. I mean he's completely over me being an actor because , when he was born, I was in a national commercial that ran for a long time. Yeah. So as soon as he was kind of aware of me, my presence on stuff, he would look up and he would see me on tv.

You know? And so now, like he doesn't care, but he loves Superman. He loves, he really loves the doll crypto. 'cause he's obsessed with animals. , Yeah. And he's always asking me if I know Spider-Man. 'cause he likes Spider-Man better than Superman. So naturally , you can never completely Yeah.

Please your kid there. Well that's how you get into the next Spider-Man. Maybe James Gun will pick that one up and then you'll just be reoccurring guard. Think it's their ass kicked. I hope I'm not doing reoccurring guard anymore. Like, uh, hey, if it pays the bills, it pays the bills. Right, right. Yeah. Give them some growth, you know, some mobility there.

Um, well,, other than Superman, which is in theaters now, so go catch it. Coming on demand. I'm pretty sure. Pretty soon, right? Yeah, end of August. End of August. So yeah, if you didn't catch it in theaters, which you should, it's a good movie. , Then catch it on Demand and support our local Atlanta actors like George here.

George, anything else you got going on? Yeah, I shot a recurring role on a, on a television show, a streaming show, , called Mo Waffles. And, , I played this detective that, . They've basically said it is like Ron Burgundy if he were detective. Oh, awesome. That sounds great. So that was a lot of fun. , It is produced by Issa Ray.

Oh, nice. And, uh, hopefully we get another season of that. So , that'll be a fun little thing coming out. Then my son will not be able to watch for a few years, but, , yeah. Yeah. Um, check that out , when it drops. Right. And when and where can everyone follow you to keep up with your latest adventures at Black Tastic?

He is black tastic everybody. Black tastic. And please don't send him comments about Yeah. A Superman. Yeah. Don't troll him. Please don't. Yeah. I've gotten trolled enough , , by kids that have watched Superman, in fact go to his comment section and troll the kids that are trolling him. I have actually hidden a lot of that stuff.

Some of it was like so mean spirited that I was just like, , if something happens to me and like I'm neutralized and can no longer, like if an asteroid hit the earth. Right, right. Or specifically hit me. Yeah. I don't want my family going on my social media as an archive of my life and reading those comments.

'cause they were, there was , some of it was funny, but some of it was like some pretty bad stuff. So a few lines, yeah. Crossed. Yeah. So did you hit , any racist things? Like, was that part of it? So there were some, but. Instagram will hide most of the racist stuff automatically. Oh, nice. And I accidentally hid like a nice comment and I was like, ah, crap, I didn't mean to do that.

And I went in to like the hidden comments to like bring it back. And then I saw some of the racist things. You went into the mess, man. People, were saying. And I was like, uh, yeah, yeah. Not going back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One nice comment and then like 50 others. It's just, it's stupid. Don't do that.

Everybody like, God, it's so dumb. Don't be jealous of people. That's what, that's all this is, is you're jealous of people, , who are successful. Shine the light and the light will come back on. You lift people up. That's all you all you should do. So, absolutely. Well, George, we appreciate you being on this episode.

We hope that you come back again. , We'll drag you back again. It'll happen again. Someday. We'll do something maybe a little bit better. We'll do a whole Hogan movie. A whole Hogan movie. Oh, there you go. Thunder in paradise. Maybe it's, , I mean, Christmas Time's coming up, we could do, , what is it?

Santa Muscles. Muscles? Yeah. Oh God. I never, oh my God. I actually never saw that. I haven't either, but I know what it is. Well, I know what we're doing. I know what we're doing this December. So, shh. Stop, stop. Don't get ahead of ourselves. R-I-P-R-I-P Huster. Uh, yeah. Maybe. Um, well, you know what we do here? We reach into your childhood nostalgia.

Pull the movies from your past out to see if they truly hold up. Today. We pulled Armageddon out. It blew up on descent into our hands, so it doesn't hold up except Andrew said it did. . Yeah, so suck it. Chase wrong Andrew and suck it Kyle. But he but he is wrong. 'cause , three people said it didn't and he said it does.

But yeah, we're not the Supreme Court here, so well go out. It's a kangaroo court. Well, you can find out for yourself. Go watch a two and a half hour Armageddon. I'm pretty sure you'll agree with three of us and say it doesn't hold up, but we'll leave that up to you.

You can follow us on Instagram And we're on TikTok now. Andrew, did you know that? Yeah. Love it. TikTok iss my favorite. It's his favorite. So you can follow us there. Follow , George at Black Tastic on all, I guess all major social media platforms at this point. Uh, some of 'em I'm like the real black tastic, but yeah.

Instagram, the one that counts. Yeah, you'll find me. Yeah, that's, that's the one. Yeah. And go see Superman in theaters or on demand in a couple weeks. , In the meantime, we will see you back in two weeks with Batman Forever. Cool. Cool. Peace.