Hello everybody, and welcome to Hold Up the show where we dive deep inside your childhood nostalgia. Pull the movies from your past out to see if they truly hold up. I'm not only here with Andrew and Kyle via the Subway Hot Take hotline, but we also have the lead singer of Material Girl, the hottest rock band in the Atlanta area.

Blair Perry. It's a rock cover band. Don't, don't hype me up too much way to dampen your intro there. He's such you. I don't want people to be like, oh my gosh, I can't wait to hear this brand new band and all these cool songs I've never heard before. Hi everybody. Well, there you go. No one needs to go out there and follow material girl.

Yeah. , nice little self-deprecation to start this episode if you like old eighties, nineties rocking. Yes, please do. Who doesn't? Yeah, and Kyle, how are you feeling over there in Chattahoochee land? And the chu. Yes. Well, doing all right. It's putting warm out right now, I think. I think Blair has a question for you coming.

I do, yes. , I have a steamy question. Yeah. Who steamy. If you were to describe the way that you are feeling using an appliance, like a household appliance, , preferably when you might find. I don't know, like an old cabin. Okay. I'm gonna go ahead and say a rusty fucking bottle opener. That literally only serves one purpose in life.

And it's, you could do it with a side of a table with the right, the 90 degree angle. , you could do it losing your fingers. , but God damnit, my only existence is to fucking papa top off a bottle. , that's how I feel right now. Wow. Okay. Well, at least you serve a purpose. Speaking of server purpose singular, we watched Brave Little Toaster who?

Oh, what a movie. What a, what a time that was, I was like taking a bunch of Xanax. It was something, it was a, yeah. I'm just gonna say this now. Any of you folks that like to do like recreational drugs and  watch this kind of stuff, I don't think I would recommend this. Honestly, no, it's tough. It, it hits you and it's kind of terrifying.

And it also, I had a lump in my throat the entire time watching this. I was just kinda like, why am I fucking on the verge of crying at all times? Yeah, I mean, that's fair. Blair, why did we watch The Brave Little Toaster? When I was a kid, I, am I getting too far ahead? Can I Go ahead. No, this is what we want. This was Blair's pick, by the way. I, for everyone listening out there, love this movie. , but I liked it when I was so young.

I watched it so many times when I was really young, like 4, 5, 6. , that thinking back on it  I had not re-watched it until, , recently and I thought that it was maybe just  like a fever dream. Like maybe I didn't even really. Know what the movie was even really about or anything.

I just had these fond memories of it. But I did remember it being kind of scary.  But , I liked it. , and not to get too far ahead, but it, it was just as terrifying, honestly, as a full grown human. Was this a top, , top five movie in your childhood? , it's hard to say because I watched so many movies so many more times over the course of my entire childhood.

Like there were some movies like Aladdin where you watch it for the first time in the early nineties, and then you just keep watching it, and you've seen it several times since then. Mm-hmm. So as far as like how many times I've watched it throughout my life, no, but when I was really young in like the early nineties, I probably would've put it in my top five.

I watched a lot. Yeah. Interesting. Andrew, what about you? What about you? What kind of childhood do you have , with the Brave test? First off, I wanna ask Kyle, are you okay? That was a, you know, hefty cough there. I'll be fine. Why don't you worry about you. Okay. I'm just looking at my friend. He's, he's getting a prostate exam right now.

He's doing a lot. I was asked to cough a doctor. Okay. It's very important at our age that we, you know, especially at the age of 34. 34 at home, seven o'clock at night. Hard out. Super dangerous situation. Yeah.  But, and with all that, back to your childhood, Andrew. Yeah. It should remind you of a lot of things. So I remember watching this a lot when I was younger, like five or six.

, I had it on VHS, , which is probably a rare collectible nowadays. Yeah. I had it on VHS too. I don't, yeah, I wonder where that is. And, I watched it a number of times. I remember. Really liking it, but also like knew going into it that it was a little nerve wracking, um mm-hmm. Did not understand the brevity of it all at that young age.

Mm-hmm. I just thought the journey they took was long and arduous and it is, but like, there's so much more to it than that. And, , it has, , a decent resolution. So it was all happy, I guess, in the end, but , I remember it being kind of a challenge to watch, but I enjoyed that challenge and I loved , the characters and it was one that I put on frequently.

I wouldn't. Uh, maybe it was a top five. I don't think it was like, , if it was on the top five, it'd be probably like number five. Yeah. Or four land before time and some others, were higher up. Right. But this one, it is, this one was close to the top for sure. It is land before time-ish. Like I was Yes.

Really into lamb before time and also. Terrifying. Also scary. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And sad. Very sad. Horribly sad. But something about the characters. , I, now I'm, as I was talking about it, I'm like, why did I even like this movie? Yeah. ,  I was really into all the voices.

Yeah. And I guess that was probably why I liked it. They're all very defined characters too, and easily. Mm-hmm. You can attach to, and, , feel something through one or all of them. So very, very relatable, I guess, for, a kid. Yeah. And I thought they were funny. Yeah. There was, um, they still, there was a lot of those movies when we were kids where we had these.

Weird journeys by , different cast of characters. And it was all like, related in a, like, some sort of metaphor for like  the passage of time. And because to think about land before time, that was like a brutal journey of like growing up. Yeah. And then this movie gets really deep into like abandonment issues and existentialism and just existence in, in, in general.

Yeah. And what your purpose is. , and then you had the stuff like American Tell, which showed Yeah. The metaphors of the Holocaust and mm-hmm. There was a lot of those movies that came out, like when we were little that were just brutal subject matter that mm-hmm. You know, I, I, I wanted, we should have brought on one of our parents to talk about that honestly.

Just see if they remembered. Mm-hmm. Did they catch up? Like, did my parents. Watch this movie while I was watching it, and they were just like, yeah, sure. My dad used to say, but there's no way they weren't horrified. Yeah. I, I, that's, that was the thought that I had while watching it last. I was like, why did my mom let me watch this?

I think so much, so many things because there were some things that they didn't really, like. If my parents ever really watched Ren and Stimpy while I was watching it, they would've been like, oh yeah, or Rock. It was Modern World or something like that. Yeah. Rock was modern life. Sorry. Thank you. I needed that correction, but.

But this movie, I'm pretty sure they watched it with me, but they never set up. Maybe they just didn't pay attention. They were just, they let me be horrified and scarred for life. They thought it was a kid's movie and that's when they could just piece out and let me be preoccupied and do whatever they wanted to do.

Yeah, they heard 2D fruity probably at the beginning. We're like, amazing. Let us cute little, and John Lovett is in it. John Levitts. , Kyle, what do you remember about the brave little toaster? Well, . I'll start off my portion by asking Blair a question. And that would be what was specifically the most scary part about this when you were watching it as a child?

Like specifically, , because, I that brought up something when you were, when you were talking about scary. So much of this movie was, there were so many scary parts. , as I was watching it, I just kept, there's more and more I was like, oh my gosh, that was terrifying.

But then at the very end, the part that I would've said before, rewatching it as an adult. I think ended up actually it was the scariest part, and that's the end with the, , giant car magnet picking up the cars and , it was like committing just murder after murder and it was horrifying  that part really.

Freaked me out. The clown not get you not, , I'm not really big Clowns don't really get me. I don't really, I didn't like the clown that when I watched it recently. I didn't remember. Did you cry? No. No, but I was like, what? I was just alarmed at some of the things that I saw. , and the clown didn't make sense.

I even, we were, we were watching, I was like, why? I clown, he was a,  firefighter, , who came into, , stop , the toaster fire or the kitchen fire or whatever. And he had gr giant grimacing teeth and just , evil eyes. And he was, he definitely a joker. Yeah. Like version of a clown. Yeah.

Yeah. Like a psychotic character. But I, I'll be honest, , Kyle asked Blair what the fa what her scariest part was. I don't really, I didn't really remember a lot of these scary parts that we're gonna discuss. I really didn't. I really just remembered that la that last one, honestly. Yeah. , I remember Phil Hartman's demise.

Did you really? I remember, I did remember any of that. Mm-hmm. Of it. It scared me. 'cause I thought he was like getting very angry, which he was. He was, you know, having a panic attack basically. Yeah. But, , I remember always , shielding my eyes when the air conditioner exploded. That part came right back to me as we were watching it.

Like, it felt like literally, when you say reaching into your childhood nostalgia employee, it felt like somebody was just reaching into my brain, just like yanking it. Or actually it was more like a slow pull. We were like just slowly pulling like a. Rope out of a murky lake and just like got algae and shit all over it.

Yeah, that's kinda what it felt like. I was like, oh gosh. Like, that's right. Like I suddenly remembered it,  like I had just watched it yesterday. I didn't, and I also didn't think about how good the music was in this, which I think the music's excellent. I didn't think of it as even having had music in it.

Yeah. . It's almost a musical. Yeah. There are four, aren't there? There aren't there three or four like songs? Mm-hmm. Well, it's famous composer   too, right? , uh, John Newman, I think. John Newman. Yeah. I don't,, I can't remember who this guy's first name was, but the other guy, , who did , the songs is Van Dyke Parks.

Yes. I wrote his name and he is well known because he worked with Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys when Brian Wilson had his mental episodes and essentially. Collapsed , for years. He was supposed to write the answer to pet sounds and Van Dyke Parks was supposed to be his partner in crime. And Brian lost his mind.

And  that's his like, claim to glory, if you will. , he obviously wrote some stuff, but to see his name actually show up in some sort of like, credit that we're familiar with is, you know, kind of cool for me. Yeah. 

Also, and this might actually, this might be the actual scariest part more than the end. , 'cause I had a visceral reaction to it both times. I wa we actually re-watched that part the very next night and I had the same exact reaction. The record player with the needle nose. Oh, that was, it was weird. Oh, yeah.

And his little, his like needle nose, he like leans over and starts playing the record. And then , the music's scary. But there's something about his needle nose. Oh. Oh, I can't say. And it was almost like , one of like Beethoven's, I forgot the name of , the symphony. But it was, it sounded reminiscent of something like that.

, it was definitely like all a Dracula. Yes. Oh, you meant Bach, Andrew, sorry. Yeah. Bach. Bach, Beethoven. Yeah, I know what you're talking. So whatever. They're dead. So Kyle, now that Blair's answered your question. So our question is, what do you remember about this movie from your childhood, other than the scary part?

, I remember like, I think this is one of the times that, I had like an existential crisis as a child. Like the, , how old were you when you saw this? For the first, , I think I saw this, like when it came out on VHS, so probably like 95, 90. , I don't know. , when did this come out?

What year did this come out? 89. 89. Seven I think. 89. 89 or 87. Yeah. I'm gonna look real quick. Yeah, that, it was probably, I was probably very young when I saw this, but I saw it a couple times, 87, but I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it way 87, I dunno, like fucking 28 years, something like that. Probably did.

Did you watch it a lot as a kid or was it just like, I, I watched it, ,  I just texted my mom and asked her. I was like, do you remember this movie? 'cause , I remember watching this movie, , but she didn't respond, so Thanks. Thanks, Terry. We need your help on this podcast, Terry. And you didn't, you didn't give him so.

Remember that. , we'll never forget, but  I think this is one that my mom would just sit me down and watch, but , I think she did watch this with me. I'm pretty sure I'd be interested to hear what she had to say, because it is very much a, , there's a lot going on. , there's a lot of themes happening.

I see what you guys were saying when  we were kind of talking about this beforehand about like just how many different moving parts there are with like, like thematically. It seems simple, but then like, you're like, no, that's like, , that's a reference of something that's, it's very mature deep.

It's very mature. There's a lot of things going on in it. But I think specifically, like the scariest part for me was , when they're in , the radio man shop or whatever, he is like the tinkerers. Oh yeah. , he's just like very systematically murdering them and like taking what they need from it as like, it's almost like a transaction.

, which talk about the Holocaust.  That's something, when I was watching it, I was like, oh, that, that kind of reminds me of that. , there's aspects of it in there. It's, there's a lot more going on to it than just, than that. It's not a direct reference, but it is still very, , I don't know of another, forgive me, but it's really fucked up.

Like, I don't know what to say about it, you know? Yeah. Like, , it's tough. And we can dive into each scene  as we do our blow by blow. , , I remember watching this movie a lot as a kid. I had it on VHSI also had, what was it? , braid, little Toaster goes to Mars, brave Little Toaster to the Rescue.

Mm-hmm. And then Brave Toaster goes to Mar and I think I had all three and I would watch Brave Little Toaster all weekend. Yeah. But I watched this one the most. And , I remember vividly my dad always saying, oh, brave Little toast. That's a cute little movie. And that sticks in my head now as I watch it as an adult.

Yeah. Because I was like, that is not a cute movie at all. Mm-hmm. Feel like, oh, the little blankie. That's what I remember , from with an actual kid's voice. Yeah. And , it's so much deeper than that. Yeah. And it makes it worse. Worse now, it makes it so much worse that you know that that's a kid's voice.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Um, but  I watched a lot of it. I remembered everything as we were watching the movie too.    Oh, fun little fact.

Before I forget, do y'all know who voiced the,  the vacuum? It was the same guy as Tony the Tiger. It was, , yeah, something Reagan ravenscroft thorough Ravenscroft. It was also the guy who's saying you're a mean one. Oh yeah, yeah. , that was his moment of glory. But that this is him, you know, 20, 30 years later.

And then John LUTs and Phil Hartman too. I can't forget. Phil Hart. Phil Hartman. John Lovetts. Phil Hartman , RIP Phil. . All right, Andrew, , this is our next segment. Yeah. And I think this is gonna be a little fun to talk about, but , what kind of box office mojo numbers are we looking at?

, none. None. There are none because, none. Thank God this movie was not released. I'm pretty sure it went straight to VHS and was sold worldwide because of how Disney wanted it to go. What, on a budget of 2.3 mil? No, it was more than that. It was, they originally started out at 12.3 and they whittled it down to like 5.6 million.

Okay. Impressive. Wow. And they. Well, John Lasseter wanted to do this with CGI, , animation. And Disney was like, no, why would you do that? And John's like, well, it's just as you know, , affordable. , and the person who was in charge said something to the effect of like, well, if it's not cheaper or easier than, we're not gonna do CGI.

And he like pitched a fit. And actually he like left, , shortly after that. So he wasn't even, I don't even think he was really a part of the creation of this. I think he's still the writer. I think he's still, is he still the writer? I think still, I think he still credited because  they left for a while and Disney became like a third party.

It was Hyperion Pictures is who they gave it to. Yeah. Which is like a subsidiary of Disney or whatever. Yeah. They didn't, Disney. Disney still, I don't even know if they didn't have the rights to it, but they still had ownership in some capacity. They had produ, they had, uh, they could produce it so they could do stuff straight to vhs.

Yes. , media rights basically. But  they also gave some of the distribution rights like Fox and CB s too. So it wasn't just Disney's, even though it was under the umbrella of Disney. So no, , theatrical release, no box office numbers. This was kind of one that Disney, seemingly wanted to squash.

Yeah, that's what I was gonna, I was gonna say, Blair, did you know that the brave little toasters one that Disney's been trying to bury? I remember you talking about that. First I wanna say,, I didn't pick this movie for this reason, but I was so happy to find out there weren't any box office numbers because I was so nervous about guessing.

Mm. Why would, that's always the part whenever I'm listening to the podcast and like, he's like, can you make a guess? I was like, I have not one  clue. It's fun to guess. I'm just so bad at. At knowing numbers, even as I've listened to as many as episodes as I have and I still don't, um, I still would be a terrible guesser, so thank God.

But yes, I have heard. Lucky you, we talked about this a little bit, , that Disney wanted to bury this Yeah. Film. And I Does it have to do with at , what at what point did that happen? Was that at the, from the very, that was essentially from the beginning. 'cause it's based on , a novella, right? Okay. Yes.

, I forgot the name of the guy. , we should find his name here in a second. I had his name. I just, , I wrote in my notes, look into the novella and I did, but I didn't write notes on it. Therefore I have forgotten them. We are professional podcast everybody. Yeah. Yeah, it's really good. , based on the novella by Thomas m.

Dish and Laster did not actually write. He didn't write any of this. He didn't direct, I don't think he really had a hand in it. He kind of left Yeah. In 83. , but I wanted to say Hyperion Pictures was made up of a bunch of like youngins from Cow Arts Pixar. Right. Those were the original founders of Pixar, so mm-hmm.

Think about some of the other movies that they made and what this might've influenced, and they finally did get to use that CGI that they were talking about. Yes. In, what is it, toy Story? No, no. You guys are all wrong. It's not Toy Story. Oh, sorry. Definitely not George. The Jungle Toy Story. Yep. Yeah. Live's Hand.

Mm-hmm. Um, Disney tried to move on from this real quick. Yeah. And I, if you followed the episode with John where we talk about the death of , the rental store, we mentioned the brave little toaster as part of, there's a excess amount of VHS movies that are getting destroyed. Almost weekly. No. Weekly.

Yeah. So we're losing these, this art and this media  because Disney has no plans to bring this back from the vault to release a Blu-ray to put it on streaming. We had to watch this on YouTube, so. Yep. I'm surprised that we were able to watch the whole thing, the full thing. You could run it on Amazon for like $25.

I'm like, I don't want to do that. Oh my gosh. So I'm surprised you still can rent it. Amazon. I don't even see it. I didn't see it on Amazon. Yes. When I looked into it was on it today. So maybe it wasn't there when we checked originally, but it was on there today. That's a good start. Um, they found out we were gonna be doing on this podcast.

Yeah. They new hold up was sent to something and so they're all gonna get you, everybody, , wait for it. It'll go down to 9 99. , but this movie is being buried by Disney. They didn't like it from the beginning. They don't, I don't think they really think, see it as Disney messaging now. You see this before with Disney.

They have been bearing their own products for a very long time, for different reasons. One that comes to mind is Song of the South. I know Andrew knows all about that. Why Earth would they want to bury that? I don't know. Fantastic film. I'm not sure. And that's not, uh, that, we'll, we will pass that subject along for another day.

But Disney does like  to move on pretty quickly and make sure that you do not remember some of their failures, even though they thought this was gonna be a failure. And it was a major hit when it hit VHS. , I don't have any of the VHS sales numbers, but  it revitalized this movie and became a cult classic.

Yeah. When did it, because if it was released in 87, obviously none of us were alive. Even me, none of us were alive in that year. So it must have been re-released in what, like 92 or three? Because why, why did we all have it and why did we all watch it? There was a big, there was a big VHS market in the late eighties, early eighties too, but so it probably went straight to VHS then and probably got a re-release in the early nineties.

Nineties, yeah. I don't know if college admitting it was 92 or nine three. That's what I'm thinking. But anyway, are we, , are we ready to go? Blow Bob Blow on Disney's biggest failure slash success. Let's dive, let's blow it. Let's blow it. Alright, let's blow it. All right. Blair, do you wanna do the honors of letting us know where this movie starts?

I was afraid you were gonna say that, which is exactly why I memorized exactly how it starts. 'cause I couldn't tell you how a single movie I've ever seen starts. I have a terrible memory. I'm the same way. Mm-hmm. But I remember this one. So it opens on a cabin, ,  you can tell that it's in the middle of nowhere, up on top of a hill.

It's kind of foggy. , and they zoom in through the window. They wanna make sure that you know that it's a dilapidated cabin that no one is currently, , visiting regularly because the shutters are askew. And I think that's how it indicates that there ain't nobody here, , except for, and then they go all the way into the house.

And that's when you first start to see the. The characters. Yeah. And they're all like sleeping, right? We've got a, yeah. Yes. Kyle, what kind of characters do we have? We got a fucking toaster. We've got a little blanket. We've got, and this blanket is like, I thought it was a bar of soap blanket for like, the longest.

I thought it was like something stuck onto the blanket. Like some nasty kid treat, like just some gnarly sticky substance. It's an electrical blanket, right? It it hit me. Yes. Watching it this time. Yeah. As an adult I was like, oh my gosh, that's a, an electrical blanket. I just thought it was a face they gave.

I had no idea. When I was a kid, I didn't think it was anything but like appendages. I didn't have an electric blanket when I was a kid. I didn't, I thought it was just a bar of soap. I was like, I guess it's a towel. And yeah, it wasn't very clear as a child. But then we also have the lamp and we also have the toast.

Did I say toaster? You said the toaster. That was the first one you said. , and the vacuum and. The radio. The radio tube radio. Yeah. , and also there's a number of other, you know, more secondary and tertiary characters that are very much, , in the movie and are animated very well in certain parts.

Yeah. , but one of the, one of the ones in the very beginning that  we'll get right into was the, , air conditioner unit. Oh, goodness. Yeah. Yeah. So in, in this movie sets up where all these characters , they start doing chores, right? Like Yeah. , they're trying to do their daily task of living and living is doing chores.

So keeping the house clean for , the master. Right. And they're the master. They keep talking about this master and they have , a picture of him and it's this little boy. ,  you can just tell they've left this cabin. It's a secondary home. Or vacation. A little, little vacation. I thought you should include that.

He's ginger. He is. Yeah. Very ginger glasses and ginger. It kind looks like Andrew is a child. Except I've never had red hair in my life, but yes, not yet. Give it time. Yeah. You'll grow into it. Sure, I will. I'll love, it'll never, you'll love it a lot, Andrew. Thank you. , so they, they start doing chores and they're bickering a lot.

, the tube radio, which is played by John Lovet, or voiced by John A. Little bit, I should say. Mm-hmm. Is annoying. I love him. It's my favorite. He's my favorite character as an adult. I absolutely love that character. He does deliver, like, we'll get to it later. He does deliver one of the funniest lines in the movie.

Yeah, you rewatched it five times. It's great. I was cly this curious, I'm curious as to what that line is. 'cause I'm not thinking anything off the top of my head. So we'll get there. We'll get there. Okay. But , he's like doing his like, , tootie fruity, like Yeah. Song and dance. Yeah, I'm ready.

And as they're cleaning, we get that and Good job, Kyle. Um, woo. Okay. Hit on. , I need to talk about Tootie fruity really quickly because  I don't know. Now rewatching this movie and hearing that song made me wonder if me loving this movie is the reason that my dad taught me how to play it on piano. But it's the, this is song is special to me.

It's the very first song I ever learned to play on the piano. Oh, wow. Oh wow. , in, in the style that I play, that I currently play now, which just by. By guitar chords, like I just play it by ear, as my dad says in, he used air quotes. , and I would, I played, I learned it when I was maybe five and I played it and sang it, and I did this song, , for a competition, like a, what do you call it?

. A, what do you call those things where you show talent? Talent show? When I was a kid, I wouldn't know. Yeah, same. , and so anyway, , this song is like a big deal in my childhood and I wonder which came first. My dad just loving the song and me learning it. Or this one, this movie, little Richard came first and  then Brave Little Toaster.

Then you, then your dad came first. Me or Little Richard. By the way, this is a, you should, if you haven't seen the documentary about Little Richard. It came out  like two years ago, like 2023. And it's called I Am Everything. It is phenomenal. You must see it if you haven't. Okay, I'll tuck that down in the pocket.

Yeah. You're not wearing pocket. Actually, I do. I've got three if you want to count. But how many Andrew have, how many of them are usable? Be real. He's got nature's pocket and that's always reusable. The three of them are usable. Kyle, I'm being very real with you. , 

 So, , moving forward,  they do their song and dance. , the blanket is the one that's really obsessed with the master. The Master. And I hate the, I hate that they keep saying master. , it's just a little, you know. You know, the word has competitions.

Yeah. Song in the south, uh, Disney, you know, here we are. , but they use , , , that term master, it's like a term of endearments. Yeah. It's like a term of endearment and respect and like, you know, they look up to this thing 'cause he gives them , a purpose, you know? , and we'll start with this little section when they're here in the cabin where I'm, I'm like breaking it down in my head.

Like, we get a lot of like religious overtones here where you're talking about a creator and you're talking about looking up to someone and waiting for someone to come back or save you. , even though there's no sign that the master exists, , obviously they have their memories. , the lamp tells a story of where his bulb burned out and the master, , replaced the bulb.

Yep. , and he was able to shine light again. And then  they hear a car, he healed him and he healed him. They hear a car and they're like, oh. There's a car coming down the road, maybe they don't get much traffic in the mountains or wherever the heck they are. So they all scramble in Austell, Georgia, somewhere like that.

, what's north of Helen? , something in that area? Not, not in one thing. , but anyways, they, , they all travel up to like , the top floor 'cause it's the highest window lookout window. And they lift blankie up to look out and they do see a car coming and all of a sudden, like blankies overcome with like, you know, visions , of this kid and childhood memories and what he used to do and what he used to be with them.

And , the blankie's, like it's the master, it's him. And you know,  we're seeing these lovely childhood visions and all of a sudden the car passes and mm-hmm. You know, he's. Withers away. Like he basically hasnt come apart at that point. Yeah, he cries. Yeah. And I, I can't, it's the most annoying cry I have ever heard in my life.

And it didn't seem, I don't remember it bothering me when I was a kid, but hearing it now, it's like, ugh. It, it was kind of annoying I think as you get older too. It was so realistic of a child crying. Yeah, it literally was. 'cause it hit you as a kid. Yeah. It hits you right here. Yeah. It's just like, it's, it's mind numbing to listen to.

And then as they're  seeing the car drift by the air conditioning unit, played by Phil Armon, , does his best Jack Nicholson impression, which I think I read that that was what he was going for. Oh, it has to been. It has to be. And it was like very much The Shining, even looked like him looked with the eyebrows, like the top of the air conditioning.

It looked like his eyebrows makes me, was Jack Torrance. They tried to get Jack Nicholson and they were like budget's too small. Can't do that. I mean, there's no way Jack would've done that at that point in time, but. Unit. , but they, they have a conversation. Alright, Phil Hartman, by the way, everybody rrp, , second time on the show.

A true legend. , but they have like a conversation with him because he's, he's mocking them. Mm-hmm. Um, you know, , he's like, you, you, you hold out hope for , this guy that's never gonna come back. Y'all are worthless, yada, yada, yada. And I think someone quips back to him is like, you're in a window pane.

You can't move or do anything. Oh, it was the, it was the, , toaster? No. Or was it, well, because you was gonna say what he says back to him because I think it was the, , vacuum. 'cause then what does the AC unit say back to the vacuum when he says that, I don't know. He says, whatcha gonna do suck me to death.

Yeah, that's what he did say. Yep. Mm-hmm. And he says that that Nicholson voice, and I think me and Blair were like, some people pay good money for that. Yeah. Oh, yeah.  . I think it was the toaster that says to him, , you, you don't have much function. You just sit in the window sill. You can't do anything. You can't go anywhere. And he starts like, freak out and like get like super emotional. And he is like yelling and like crying. And he's like, yeah, but why was he crying though, Andrew? Because , they whittled him down to nothing. No, because  his cord killed a boy.

Did anybody else get that? His, oh, because he said it wasn't his fault, but if that's right. It wasn't my fault. It's my function. Yep, yep. That's right. Wait, so , he fucking killed a kid. Yeah. Wait, but not obviously not their kid, but another kid. Yeah. Maybe a, maybe his brother or something. Yeah. So it is, that's when they moved outta cabin.

Yeah, , I heard that. I was like, what the fuck? I didn't catch that. How long do we think they have been gone from this cabin is, at the beginning they say like, what are we gonna do today? They only remember him as a kid saying he's now an Oh, that right year old. That's he's now, yeah, he 18. Yeah. We find out later.

So probably at least five or six years, right? Maybe longer. Probably longer, probably, yeah. Like eight to 10, almost, I would say almost a decade. Yeah. 'cause , he's going to college, so he's 18. He was in that picture. He looks maybe he could be 10, maybe. Yeah. Eight years. Maybe. Eight years I think is fair.

Which is a long time if you're an appliance. Apparently. Yeah. Especially appliance that old. But, you know, Phil Hartman, AC unit just craps out and essentially like, just explodes. Explodes in anger and has a heart attack. Yeah. Basically dies and throws window. Get, it dies. Like a su At first I thought of it, it was more like a suicide, but then it, it did seem.

Like he, like it was a, the first time we watched it, more of a heart attack, definitely seemed like a suicide. And then I think the second time we watched it, we both understood that it was more heart attack due to anger or must stroke or something like that. Either way it was horrific. Horrific. Yeah. Yeah.

And so there goes Phil Hartman, he's in the movie for all of five minutes and, but he was great. He's a, he's in another, he's in another part as well. Oh yeah, that's true. He does. Yes, he does make a redemption story like return. But anyways, they at that point, toaster decides like, Hey, let's go find the master.

Let's go to the city. Because that's where , the master lives. , and they were like, we can't do that. And toaster's like, sure, we can, we'll make it happen. And what do they do? Oh, and they do it because they see, part of it is because they see somebody pull up That's right. And, , hammer up for sale sign another car comes by.

Mm-hmm. And they're like, wow, someone's here. And it's that for sale sign, because you know, clearly , they've been forgotten about and abandoned. Yeah. So that's how they knew for sure. Like, we gotta get outta here. , we gotta go find him now instead of just like understanding that he's left us for dead.

, which, so they are appliances. The cord thing doesn't make any sense in this movie. You got to suspend some disbelief here. Yeah. It is an animated movie, lot of that. , it's okay to suspend disbelief, but then they go back and forth a little bit like, oh no, they need their cords and electricity Right.

To, to use it. But yet they're still operating without the cords and electricity. So I would've very much rather them just not even go with the battery. Right. Don't even, I mean, from the beginning when they were showing  none of them were plugged in. I think the only, maybe the vacuum was, but like they're just hopping around dancing.

Of course the radio I think is battery powered. Yeah. But  Kyle, how do you feel about that? 'cause you always hate when people like go against reality. Yeah, but  this is a cartoon though. Oh my God. It's very much, it's very much a cart. Like, it, it makes sense to the world that it's in. , but it is kind of dumb.

And it, it took me out of it for a second. 'cause I was like that they're, wait, like it's a secondary source of life for them. Do we get to, do we get to breathe like carbon monoxide as well as oxygen?  Yeah. Well in goes a little confused. They also all dunk themselves in water later in our fine.

Yeah, exactly. And they're in mud and shit. Like Well they, they just create this point so that they have to bring a battery with them. That's, and it just creates another plot point. So they, they wrote that in, but they didn't make it, a main stay for like the appliances themselves. 'cause none of 'em were plugged in at any time.

, and again, you can be like, oh, the electric blanket and , the radio is battery powered. They can survive without the plug. But the lamp, no, no, not sorry. But they devised a plan to use what? A, a rolling office chair. Desk chair. And that's inanimate. Yeah. And they're all sitting on it at the chair. Yeah.

The, of course. That's be ridiculous. Chairs can't talk. Seriously. Chase, God, come on. , but  they're all sitting on that rolling chair. , the vacuum cleaner attaches. It's, , Kirby. Kirby. Kirby, yes. K. The only one. The only one. The name actually has a name. Yeah. What blinky. Well, I mean, okay. Well lamp.

Lamp is not lamp. It's Lamby. Lamby. It's Lamby, blanky, toaster and Kirby. It's like, what was radio even? Anything. Oh, I think radio is, yeah, I think it's just the radio. Yeah, radio. Yeah. I wanted to call it radio head , I was waiting for a joke in there. I wanna call it Tom York. Sorry. That was, that's good.

That was really lame. We just lost, we lost Spotify. All our followers. Yeah, we're off Spotify right now. Yeah. Um, well that was great. That was a fun run. Sorry, y'all g one's pulling out now. So , they devise a plan where , the vacuum is pretty much gonna suck them to the city. Didn't he Attaches his power cord on the chair.

He rattle plugging it into the battery while he moves along the grass and the weeds, and, which I was like, he got like three minutes into it. I was like, his back is really full. Oh yeah. He's just rolling. I think he's just rolling. You can roll a vacuum cleaner without sucking. Yeah. Trust me. I know I haven't vacuumed in years, but I remember from the nineties, Kyle, do you know a lot about vacuums?

You have pets? , it's so vacuums. Here's the thing, you know, you gotta take, you gotta take this into consideration with vacuums all. It goes both ways. You know, what goes in must come out and what it does. A lot of surprises in there. I'll tell you something, you gotta be careful. You gotta be ready for what you see.

Where the fuck are you using a banking, where you're having this kind of issue? Listen, if you have to ask, you don't wanna know. That's fair. Okay. But the, and he has four pets, so I think that's contradictory. If you are asking, you do want to know. So if you have to know you don ask. Lemme tell you. You don't wanna, you don't wanna, there's a lot of blood.

I don't, I don't wanna know. I personally don't wanna know. Let's, lemme on. Let's move on. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. You don't wanna mm-hmm. So onto the next little chapter. , this whole next part is. But it feels like a mashup of like, lots of other Disney ish movies that I've seen, like Homeward, Bounder, like stuff, stuff like ba, Bambi ish, bamb, like there's a lot of Bambi.

, there's parts of it that are very fantasias. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Um, I, especially the score, yes. I got a lot of, yes, the score. That was one of the, the big things that made. Think of Fantasia, another movie that I absolutely loved as a child, but was also absolutely horrified by it is, no, it makes total sense now.

Why I love horror movies. Realizing just how much I loved to. Terrify myself as a child. We're not quite there yet, but I think there are plenty of horror elements in this movie, honestly. Yeah. I mean, that's what she's referencing to. Yeah, for sure.  And  it felt really kind of jungle bookish too.

Mm-hmm. A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. , and also, you already referenced it, but  the dinosaur. The dinosaur movie labor before time, before time. That one. Yep. There's the raw emotion of that especially.  So basically what we're talking about is they make it to this like little wooded area where all these woodland creatures are alive.

Like what frogs? We have mice. We have the mice, yeah. Mm-hmm. Um, flower. The flowers are animate. There's a fish and a worm. Oh yeah. I love that. That little part with the fish and the worm. That cracks me up. And, and that reminds me of  the fox and the hound, the worm in That reminds me of the caterpillar.

Yes. Yeah. That's like a little subplot, dual woodpecker. Mm-hmm. Another, another movie you could throw into that raw emotion. Mm-hmm. Oh my gosh. FoxTown might be my top favorite. That was mine when I was a kid. . I quoted that movie in my, , salutatory address in high school. Like to the crowd.

I, like, I watched it. A couple years ago and it made me cry, like, oh, there's, there's no way you can, can get away from it. It tears you up every time. Anyways, they're, they're in this wood. I'm my hound dog. Oh God. Don't, don't even, don't even, they're in this wooded area. They're, you know, they're making their way through.

They're, you know, getting to point A to point b. I don't, you know, this part is somewhat, nothing really happens other than,  the blanket gets pulled away by the mice Down a hole. Hole. Yeah. He gets like, it was a little bit like, oh, like what are these mice do? And they were chew, like taking advantage of, they chew on his picture of the master that he was clinging to the entire time.

Yeah. There's a weird part where the toaster, the things keep being obsessed with the toasters. 'cause they can see themselves in  the reflection of the toaster. And then he at first kinda likes it and then he's like, leave me alone. And then a flower  looks and thinks it's another flower and falls in love with the reflection of itself.

And then when toaster's like, no, and like, I'm not a flower, and wa walks away, then he like watches the flowers slowly die. It's so, there's gotta be some, I keep thinking I'm terrible with metaphors. Always say I don't believe in metaphors.  I'm like, this must mean all this must mean they don't exist.

Something exist, but I don't know what Yeah, I'm sure meant it to mean something.  I see it as like, , through the life stages, right? Like you, you have your parents, you have your comfortability and home, and then you don't have your parents anymore and you have to go out on your own. And you go into this weird world with all these other creatures who possibly have lived in  the real world longer and you don't like really fit in with any of them.

And I feel like this is kind of that stage of life for these appliances is they don't really fit in here. They're still trying to find the master and they're still trying to find their place. They feel like that they're, there's no use for them. And that's kinda like any human. As we develop and get older, they're on the journey of life.

The journey of life. So, God, I'm so. That makes so much sense. I'm like, to me, I'm just like, oh, it's just like some mice. I'm sure it's a metaphor. I don't know. I can't be, if that makes perfect sense. The mice, I can't explain. No, that makes perfect sense. I was kind of thinking like, oh,  if the theme is like you have to live your purpose or whatever, then they are out of their element.

 I was thinking more in a literal sense, but you're absolutely right. That makes sense. Like they're outta their element. They're not where their purpose is, so they don't know what , they're like kind of messing things up Yeah. In this meadow. Mm-hmm. And, and they're playing with a lot of different themes too.

 So any, anything that you come up with in this movie is just, you could hit, hit the Dartboard. It's, it, there's a lot there. The Fish in the Worm though, I'm not quite sure what's going on there. I think that was just for fun. Yeah. I, I don't know how it's being for fun. Uh, that reminded me of the Frog that used to Hello my lady.

Hello my dog. Hello. My Rat Pound guy. And then they're like, look, it's my Froggy Sings Right. Which I love that little short, that was one of my favorites and that came on before Little Giants. If you don't remember that VHS copy, I know you remember it. Maybe. What was it? Maybe? Wait, we're doing that one this September.

Oh, yes. Okay. Sorry. Yes, I do. Yes. They came on before it as like an advertisement for Looney Tunes. So in these VHS copies and we're spinning it back kids, for those of you who I've never seen a VHS or know what one is, so before every, what does it stand for? Do you guys remember? Video? Video Home system?

Yeah. I remember the episode where you guys were like, oh my gosh, what does it stand for? Yeah, we're idiots. , yeah, but well, nobody ever say it out loud before each feature presentation. There would be like either trailers or coming soon to Disney Home video or, and then there was always, like in certain Disney movies, they would have like little shorts.

Like Pixar made it famous later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. , but there was that frog one. I remember it came on before several different VHSs I had and it was always little giants. So when I played little giants, I had to watch that little short, sorry, coming this fall, he digresses.  What happens next? Kyle? This is when they're in the forest, right?

Yeah, yeah. There's a musical. Yeah.  So they go to the forest and there was  a moment in the forest of self-sacrifice that really stood out to me.  That was, they, the, so the storm whips up essentially, and, you know, blanky having , a large surface area and very, very flimsy, just gets caught up in the wind and he just goes, bye-bye.

So they're trying to find him. . And the rolly chair has the battery attached to it so they can all plug in, which I guess after that they didn't really need it. It was just kind of an, , a thing that they were keeping with them. But they, a storm whips up, blanket gets lost and the lamp gets onto the swivel chair, battery concoction, points his nose out towards the sky to attract the lightning.

Oh yeah. And then gets struck by lightning. Yeah. And I, that and his bulb gets burst. And at that point I thought he died. I was like, fuck. Like he's done it, it is a missed opportunity 'cause there is a sacrifice there. And I'm like, oh, this would be really powerful if the lamp dies. Yes. And it would be, he doesn't, we've already had one death.

My goodness. It's for children. But they were already horrified. And he recharges the battery, right? He does, yeah. Okay. , but then they lose that though at one point, and they're just hoofing it along with no batteries. It's whatever.  But  they wind up, you know, getting separated and then brought back together.

They find blanky. Right. But then is this, is this, they, he's been, been, he's up in the tree and they have to use the vacuum like extension mm-hmm. Cord to like, you know, that's right. Loop it around the top ranch. And he like, sucks the cord. He sucks his own cord. Yeah. Like, don't let him suck his own cord.

Pull himself up, say that he like, has a whole episode afterwards, which is also terrifying watching him, like choke to death on his own cord. Which we, we skipped over a little bit because before this, I was gonna say. , before the storm kicked up  and pulled blankie out  into the forest, , there was a scene where the toaster falls asleep and has like a nightmare.

Yeah. A very vivid and disturbing. That's the, yeah. And it was like, it knives trying to like, come after him basically stab into the toaster or forks. Well, they're forks. Yeah. And then he's like hanging above a bathtub. Um, it didn't, it didn't necessarily, they were in the, like the cabin kitchen,  the kid, the master was like making like jam or like toast on jam or something like that.

And, you know, there, there was some sort of like,  electrical fire. And the master's gone. And all of a sudden the kitchen is fuming and there's flames and the door opens at the far end and in steps, this giant clown with like big teeth and like evil eyes, very much. The joker. The joker, yeah. Very vertical face with like just grotes.

Pointy. And he's a firefighter. He's there to put out the water or not. He's a firefighter. He is there to put out the fire with water. That's what they do. Yes, that is. , and fire. Fire with fire. Mm-hmm. Yeah. , and then that's what transpires into, I don't know, somehow  the toaster being over like a pool of water, looking down at his potential death.

Yeah. And like a bath and like literally over a bathtub and is like really, really high up. Yeah. The whole thing is, and the music horrifying, the music swelling and like you, , it's nightmare. It's a fricking nightmare. And yeah. The music with the actual visuals Yeah. Is fright. It was frightening.

And it's disturbing at, you know, 32 years old. I don't know how it wast when I was five or six. Yeah. Do you remember what the clown said to him? No. What did he say? He said something. He said, run. He said run. Yeah. And it, that, that was horrifying as like, no, I guarantee you this. , fueled some of my nightmares.

Had, have you had to Yeah. Had to influence what I saw. I pushed it far in the back of my mind and Yeah. Didn't, something I had not remembered when something that didn't like just come straight back to me as I was rewatching. It was like the conversation, I remember blankie like getting left out when they were all going to sleep.

Like they , didn't wanna sleep with him. The radio makes us circle around himself. He's like, nobody cross this line, or not nobody cross this line. I can't talk like him. But the toasters over there going to sleep. And the, he and the lamp have, he and lamp kind of have it at, like, the lamp is like, why are you being so nice to the blanket all of a sudden?

And he's like, what are you talking about? We've always been friends. And I, I didn't quite understand that whole interaction, but I didn't know if like him being worried that the lamp was mad at him and that everybody was mad at him is what fueled this nightmare or. I don't know. It was, that was kind of weird too.

Yeah.  And everyone's kind of like, like I said, they're nice to each other, but they're also mean to each other. Everyone's kind of existing in their own plane. Yeah. They're all, they're all kind of jerks. The toaster is trying to be nice. Mm-hmm. I think that the blankies is nice, but when the toaster had the nightmare is when his character card flipped a little bit and he started becoming, it's just more tense.

I mean, yeah, he more on edge. He became that the toaster became more endearing and like that's when he like started going to blanky and understanding that Blanky just needed somebody and the toaster was being selfish. And so I think he had that nightmare of serving a purpose, basically. But anyway, and I think this is where we get the, if I'm not mistaken, Blair, the.

One of the, the funniest lines from John LUTs in the, wait, wait, it's coming. It's not, the vacuum gets really mad first after he chokes on his own cord and starts like, he like tells 'em off, just starts. He just like goes off on everybody. And then right after that, when they all, I forget how they all end up in the river.

Somebody jumps in the river. I think this, the vacuum Like right off.  Wait, wait, wait. No,  the vacuum saves them all from the river. That's what it was. Yeah. And because even the, they were like, they all jump on board the vacuum after he is been mm-hmm.

Just literally yelled at them and berated them. He's like, okay, I'm gonna save you all. And then they get out. And then they're walking off like, they're like, okay, we all survived. And that, I, I guess that's when it's, hold on. Is it  the radio says things, yeah. Things could be worse. And then the, yeah, the lamp looks over at the radio and goes, how could things be worse?

Because they couldn't, I lied. They couldn't. I lied it with perfect comedic timing and it's like, how many times have we said that in our lives? Oh my gosh. , they couldn't not be, I lied. Well, could be worse. And  they end up getting out of the forest, right? Yeah. And out of the river they get outta the forest and then they like make their way into like a swamp or marshland area.

Yeah. Right. A bug. Yeah. A situation. A marsh and a swamp and a bog. I don't know. I'm sure there are something and have to look it up. The vacuum ends up 'cause they're carrying him because he tried to choke himself on his own cord and kill himself. Yeah.  So suicide there another dark elements added that to the list.

He literally tried to do that , and they're like, get the court out of his mouth in the way that they were saying it, freak command, but then saved everybody, but saved everybody. And then they. They, he ends up falling into some quicksand, sinking mud or something like that. Yeah. And this is where that, , this really weird part happens where  this guy just, this rotund fellow shows up and a giant truck, like a monster truck.

Massive, massive, literally truck monster truck, like I'm talking. And 10 foot wheels. The weird part is he's climbing the tires. Yeah. He climbs the tires. Steals the tires, he's gonna get us there.  He somehow knows there's something in this, you know, sinking mud. He, he just hears the, he hears the radio.

He's like, I, I thought I heard a radio. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Connie heard a rain. Sounds like, and Kyle just describe this character for us. , he is like a series of spheres placed on top of each other. Yeah. He is like, he's almost like a very.  I'm trying to think of the most objective way to describe this person.

They, there's not a lot of like, shape, they're very amorphous when it comes to their overall appearance. But  he's big. He is. He is. He's a large man. He's large. Large. And he, but he large, but squat. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Like, and he has round glasses on big old round glasses, and he's just very, he's eccentric.

He's eccentric, but he's not like, unbelievable. No. He is very, like, his his glasses are big, but like, it makes him look kind of nerdy, but he's also like clearly , an adult, a business person, and he gets his, it looks like a, what's his name from Seinfeld? Newman. Newman. Newman. Hello. Bigger Newman, but yes.

Yeah. Yeah. It's what's unbelievable is the fact that he is driving his enormous monster truck around a marsh, swamp, bog looking for parts. Parts, yeah. Like when you find out what he does, like, oh, he. He should have been at like an antique store or like he owns like a, even going through a dumpster in a city.

Like why is he in a marsh? That part with this stupid dog to suspend this with this dumb dog, his ugly dog. It was not a very attractive dog. And, you find out he owns his like consignment shop. He takes, he throws all of the, our characters in the back of his truck and takes him to a, so sorry.

 There's a part I wanna discuss before we get into what happens when they go to the man's  creepy shop is when they're actually going into the sinking sand, which really was more of a thing in the eighties than ever has been since then.

Nobody talks about sinking sand anymore, but there were so many movies with sinking sand at that time, and they're going, you know, it's vacuum first, and they're like, he's just gone. And then suddenly you realize that they're all attached to his cord. So they're all like, very slowly also going into the sinking sand.

Oh yeah. And , at one point, I think it was the toaster and the blankie left and blankie's, no. And the radio and the blanky goes in and he's like, blanky, no. And Blanky goes, he basically is like, no, I'm fine with it. Like, that's basically what blanky just accept it. He's just like, Hmm, I guess this is it.

This is death. And there's a moment like that. Years later in Toy Story three, there's like a very similar moment where they all are like, they all like, I think we're all gonna die. And they all accept it. Yeah. , and then of course they end up not. But like I, I had that thought. I was like, oh my gosh.

That's just like that moment that made everybody just baw cry in the theater watching Toy Story three is full grown adults. , we're gonna visit that again. Yeah. At the end. Okay. Okay. I'm excited. , but anyway, it was just a weird moment and then the radio is the last one to go and he's like, like saying his little thing and anyway, he pulls it out like by cruel world kind of thing.

Yeah. I think he lose out, get goodbye. Yeah. And then so he takes in, he picks 'em all up, takes 'em to the shop, and it's a consignment parts shop and it's like, it's weird. Then we go into like the Universal Horror  version of this movie where they take 'em all in the back room and throw 'em in and, and they're like.

Okay. Maybe we'll be okay. But then they see all these weird appliances and fixtures, like manipulated and like, you know, pieced together, right? With like a razor and like, uh, a tape recorder. Tape recorder. Like in one, like. A hodgepodge smash. The lamp was refield and yeah, can somebody do cow? Can you do the lamp's voice?

I wanted to be able to do, thank God. It was like a gremlin's voice. Honestly. It sounded like, sounded like I'm, I'm trying to remember how it's like, it sounded like Frank. Oh, that. Oh, the lamp. Lamp. Not, oh yeah. No, he was very much. Yes. Yes. It was like Igor almost too. Yes, it was. It was. I He was Igor. That's exactly, he, I wrote that down as like, he's definitely doing a, an Igor voice.

Do you see? No one will ever leave. I wanna, I wanna make a reference. God, that was terrible. That was disgusting. I wanna make a reference to something. This kind of reminded me. Of, , Sid and Toy Story. Yeah, that's very much the parts Exactly. He put together that I, you, you know, that, that was influenced by this.

Oh, a hundred percent had to have been. So this whole movie was just, well, toy Story is just this movie, this, this song, this song that these appliances started singing was very catchy. It's called, this is a Bee Movie. What? Okay. I have not one, and I don't care about lyrics. I know as a, as a musician, , some people care about lyrics.

I don't, I can't write words. I'm not a lyricist. I only care about , the chords and the melody. Um, but e this even got me, I was like, what are they saying? Yeah, what are they saying? And they, they were talking about,  they were referencing a lot of horror movies and a lot of like. Just  shit that happens to everybody.

And then they were saying it was a B movie. It's a B movie, but they were saying something about a bee movie show. Yeah, I dunno. It, it, it wasn't too clear. And like the captions that we used didn't really, the captions changed every single time. It would be the same exact line and they would say something.

It was almost like the captains were like, yeah, we don't fucking know either. Like, we're, we can guess. , the one thing I've thought about, 'cause  I'm curious what everyone thinks about this scene. . The one thing I thought about this would be like the, , the midlife crisis part of your life where you start trying to change or you're starting, starting to do like plastic surgery and trying to like live a second life  and it doesn't end up being what you think it is.

Well, then we talked about the character that's the lamp and the shaver and the, she's three things. Her name's like, she's like, I, my man smash, she's, that's like a Joan Rivers voice, right? I think she was trying to, that an actress was trying to do a Joan River. She basically saying like, look at me like I am all a three of these things.

I'm my smash. That's not the worst Joan Rivers that's ever been done. Joan Rivers roll over. I know. I like a car. Gave her a round of applause. That wasn't 13 Rivers. No, nobody, he didn't, he fell asleep. You could give a round applause. No, we're not gonna do that. Uh, but,  yeah, so like for me, this was kind of like the midlife crisis, like where you're trying to turn back the clock and you can't, and it's like, it ends up being horrific because you're going through surgical stuff.

And, and what's happening now in the world is this guy is pretending to sell new products by stripping them from old products. So this guy comes in and goes, Hey, do you have a blender for me? Or Blender motor? Blender motor. And he has a blender in the back that he just, you know,  created a smoothie with chugged it.

And, and this is the part that I think is like, really, really, like, it's just, it's just so like. Industrial and like, oh, I will take this and I will, doesn't, I don't care about anything else with this whole product except for this one piece.

So the rest of it's now trashed and I don't care. Yeah. Like why think you give Blender? I don't know. Like in the Holocaust, when they were like. Literally just killing people. Just, just because, like, it made me think of, of that kind of stuff, like it was very dark scene. Yeah. And like that whole blender and what, what is it?

I remember as a kid. , what does he do or what, what He takes the blunder. He puts it in that, , what do you call that device that, , he cranks and closes in the, it's a vice clamp. Vice clamp. Vice clamp. Yeah. There you go. And he just starts to, to pick it apart. Like you see the, , the dramatic effect was like, you see a shadow, he takes like a flathead and you look at the wall and it's him like holding up something like pointy, and he goes down aggressively to like stab the appliance and like break it open while this, you know, poor little blender is squished together by this vice clamp and it's gripped and it can't move.

It's, it's very horror. Amazing. Yeah. It's, it's almost, , using your parts for, to give life to something else. Yeah. Scientific experiment. Something to make, he's just trying to make money. Yeah. He's like, oh, I got, I got just a shipment in. Oh, it's my last one.  I don't know how much money this dude makes with this little job he has. Because if a blender motor is only 5 39 and he lives in the middle of nowhere, what's his clientele?

Well, he's getting everything from a swamp. He's not paying for it. He saw the guy that he was selling it to too, and he looked woo. But what's the demand in the area that he lives granted,  we're splitting hairs here. It's a fucking cartoon. It's an animated movie. Movie. But yeah, I don't know. He could be selling other stuff.

Like he could, he could actually be sell. We don't know what's out on the show floor. He could be doing this that still some of we're acting, um we don't know. They're all something. And,  the next thing he's like, well, do you have tubes for radio? Radio tubes? Yes. And he is like, oh, I've got a last,  last set right here.

Or they just came in this morning, whatever the hell he says. And he goes in and radio starts to hide Behind toaster and begging to, yeah.  What happens at this point? Someone, someone take it from there Is this, is this post the, the song that they sing? It's, it's after the song. Yeah. After movie. Yeah.

The whole theater. The whole song and day. Yeah. Really. So, Kyle, Kyle, what happens? How does  the radio get out of this predicament? Well,, they cleverly decide to play a trick on this guy  who's clearly very dumb. , and they just, they make a contraption out of the vacuum that, like, it's the toaster on the top.

The lamp is shining onto the toaster, I think. Mm-hmm. And then Blanky is around the toaster as the head and it like. It comes towards him and it's like scooting along the ground and he is like, woo. And he like, the guy sees his reflection in this, in the toaster and flips out. He's like, it's me. Ah. Like he's never seen a mirror before.

And he , just gets, he just gets his head ConEd and he just gets knocked out. Almost like almost. Yeah. Almost like our friend in the Mummy when he gets the scary spot. Yeah, that was a good, what a callback to season one. There you go. There you go. Never forget. Never forget. So , they all kind of make a jailbreak after that, after he knocks himself out, and now they're back out into the wild.

Yeah. Now they make their way to the, to the city, which I was like, when they started coming up on the hill with the city, I was like, this was the worst zoning I've ever seen in a city before. It was like bumfuck nowhere. And, and all of a sudden there was just a bunch of skyscrapers on one hill. But they, they did get, they did travel a little bit, you know, further down the road to get to that point.

Well, like Metropolis was sitting on top of New York City. I thought it was, I actually thought that, , animation was really pretty. I thought it was really well done. I, I, that was one shot. I was like, oh,  that's a very, like, unique look. I know, you know what city that reminded me of Cleveland. I was gonna say what city would, but there's no shitty city.

Don't need to talk about that. There's no shitty Lake Kyle. How do you feel about that? About Cleveland? Yeah, that's Cleveland. I hear. So Cleveland is one of those cities in the world that's very much like Calcutta or, you know, , the Horn of Africa or, you know, just dirty places in, in Russia. , it's very much like trying to be something that isn't.

And, , it suffers for it. The people suffer there for it. And it's just a, if you could imagine what, like exhaust fumes, like what that general vibe is as a city.   That's Cleveland. Would you say it's like living through the seven plagues in that, that city alone? Um, that's a little too light of the term.

I'd say more, more plagues, more, more like the four horsemen , of the apocalypse. Um, yeah, so the city was still standing, so obviously wasn't Cleveland.  And there was no MOG levels. So we, uh, the, the appliances end up making their way into,  I guess New York, I guess it was going for New York, right?

Yeah. Something like that. With no, no body of water around it. So, no. , they get there and they're like, how do we find the master? And then what,  what do we switch over to at this point while they're trying to find their way? What do we switch over to? Well, that we don't stick with the characters. We go to a completely new set of characters.

Oh yeah. We, we, we see the master is the master in his home.  He lives in an apartment complex. Yes. And he's, and then 18. Yeah, he's 18. He's on his way to college, getting ready to go to college. This says he's talking to his. Does, has he talk to his girlfriend first or, or talking to his mom first asking about underwear and socks.

That's right. Do you have your own socks? He's got like 14 pairs of socks. He, he's like, oh, mother, I'll survive. He also looks 37. Yeah, he looks like Ron Howard. Sounds like it too. Yeah. Like he, they could have, like, he's not, they animated him. They could have animated him to look like, I guess people looked older in the eighties, I guess.

Yeah. And his girlfriend, when she shows up, she's old. She's, she's older. She's 42. Definitely old. I also, , made a note. She's kind of an asshole. I'm not a big fan of hers. She was, I thought she was fine. She's very, , forced type. Definitely. Yeah. Andrew loves what man do. , so  he's like trying to furnish his new dorm room in college and he's like, I'm gonna go to the old.

Cabin before we sell it. And I'm gonna get all the old appliances. It's weird. He's thought about 'em now after like 10 years. And he mentions every single one by name. There's a blankie and a toaster, a lamb, and an old vacuum cleaner and a blown out air conditioning unit. And one of my favorite lines from this movie, it was so stupid, the mom was like, oh honey, you can just take my lamp.

And it's that big blobby purple one. Who's shitty person looks like a Star Wars character. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He's, he's not, that lamp is not nice. And,  he was like, I'm not gonna take your lamp. What will you do? And she was like, he was like, oh, honey, I'll live in the dark. I'll live the dark. I'll get some candles and read by candlelight.

I'm like, why did you choose to go that route? You a rich woman. This apartment is well furnished. Yeah. And in the middle of like this. Like Metropolis City. So like, this movie's about Sac. She's showing that she's sacrificing her, she's giving everything to her son there. She has nothing. She has no purpose left.

She's already raised her son. I just, she's a h I'm gonna live  like a pilgrim. Yeah. Like it's, it's all about this movie's all about sacrifice. Everybody. I just thought it was funny that the writers chose to go that route instead of her saying like, oh, I'll just go buy another one. No, I'll get candles and read by candle.

No, I'm gonna be really, really specific and odd. , and they rush out, they leave and all the appliances in the new apartment are like, he's going for old appliances. He should want us. And they're modern. They're very modern. They're, they're, they're cutting edge and modern for 87. Yeah.

Giant stereo that's like 10 feet tall, black and white floor. A fucking, the stereo, fucking computer look like the computer from war games. Yes. Yes. Took up like so much like area.  And then of course the television. Television, which becomes really important. Yeah. Yeah. The television is,  it looks like the television was the, the television they took from the cabin.

Yeah. Because I think that's what comes along next. But anyway, , they, the appliances somehow, I can't remember. They show up at the door. Yeah. I don't know how they did. Oh, they find a, a phone book. This has Mr. Master in it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because they use, and then they, so they have a phone book and then they ask, they, they rip the page out and then they , talk to the, um, I did air quotes there.

I know. This is a audit quote. Everyone, air quotes Blair. She's talking to the, what do you call the traffic? The stop light. The traffic light. Yeah. They like ask the traffic light. The traffic light doesn't, city doesn't answer, but it answers the people. Yeah. Yeah. They just, well, the people can, the green arrow points to the rights.

Right. He's like, ding. Also, are you indicating that they could talk to people? 'cause it's very clear, we haven't mentioned this, but as soon as a person turns and looks at any of the appliances, they immediately go dead. Like  their toy story, their eyes go away. Toy story, their mouths go away. Yeah.

Just with that's a, that's an important point. Mm-hmm. Terrifying.  So  the appliances show up at the new apartment and , the new appliances are being assholes to them. And in the meantime, we flash forward or flash over to the cabin. Where homeboy and his girls show up.

Yeah. And they're trying to find the appliances and it looks like there's a break in. Well, I think it was just the mess that the right, the appliances left, but it, but he, they're thinking the, the someone's trashed the place. Yeah. And she was like, it looks like it was trashed before they got here. , she's just being really mean.

See, listen, which Andrew turn on for Andrew. He's like, Ugh. Sure. So they tell me about my mess. So , they end up, he ends up fixing the air conditioning unit. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Phil Hartman comes back to life. And then what, what does he do when he, when he gets turned back on? He starts crying because , he's getting second life now.

 And in the meantime, , what happens,  to  the appliances back at the apartment? Um, they get kicked out by the new appliances? Yeah. And into a dumpster. And they get taken to a fucking dump. Yeah. And thank God  the TV that they recognized from the old, from the cabin remembered them and saw it happen and made note of which dump they were going to.

, yeah. And it's cool 'cause the TV just, it's a,  I think it was a cool way that they decided to animate. It is the guy on the TV is the voice of the tv. Yeah. So it's not like the TV is alive necessarily. It's. The, it's the, it's the man on the p The broadcaster. The broadcaster, whatever. Yeah. It's kind of weird, but I , liked it, which is very sentient and very video drone esque.

Very, it's weird. I liked it. Um, but those new appliances were fucking pricks. Um mm-hmm. They had a wide,  range of characters. My favorite was the,, the sewing, , machine. Oh my God. They were like these two girls from jazz who were just so judgmental and they had big, you know, eyes and eye makeup. It was just, they talked like that and very gossipy, super gossipy.

Very, my God. And then like, when they would get near, they would like smile, like super fake and then, ah, ah, so good to see you. Oh, can you believe that filthy blanket, if you can even call blanket. Yeah. No, they were very, it was very much like two Rizzos. Yes. In one body. Exactly. Oh, yes. , but they, , the appliances literally get kicked out the window, like out the window in a dumpster, and they're taken away to the dump.

And this is where our movie starts to really. Conclude in a way, this is it. This was the part that I really remember as a hated, this was my fa I think this is my favorite part. It is the best part of it upon watching it, you know, when I'm older,  but they're taken to a dump and there's this giant.

Magnet that picks things up. It's more like a junkyard than a dump. Right. What we call it junkyard. It's a junkyard. It's a junkyard. It's a junkyard. But  the junk that's there is trash and Yeah. 'cause it's all like metal things. It's cars. Yeah. Yeah. Mostly cars. But like metal, it's, and they're trying to, they're crushing the cars down and there's a metal cubes and Yeah.

And like, processing those.  We get this musical number, which is great. It's a great, it's called worthless. Worthless. And it's, it's so, it's so scary. And even before the, what, what really sets the scene for this, , what sets this scene is the ominous hum of the, , magnet. The magnets like this constant, you can hear it.

That's, you know, just like that. Yeah, just like that. But it's loud. It's very loud. And he has a very red and angry face. And it's just really enjoys his job of peeling, picking people up and crushing these cars. Well, I don't know. There's, in this scene though, like there's, this is where like the real like symbolism is like, this is like death.

, you do two. What, what is it? What's this saying? The only two things you do in life that are dying and pay taxes. Death. Death and taxes. Only two things that are certain in life. Certain in life, yeah. Death and taxes. This is, is death. Unless you have tax fraud, which, you know, different podcast.

You definitely won. You're immortal. Then you're definitely getting to death before one else. But I think , the crane, the magnet was like death himself. Yeah. You know, ushering and you can try to cheat it and escape it all you want, but it's inevitable. Um, he's just doing his job job.  It's just Exactly.

He's just, this is the job he has to do. And, and it's very, very, very cut. Almost cut and dry, but really scary. It's sad. I mean, while he's picking up these cars and putting 'em on the conveyor belt to be crushed mm-hmm. They're all singing about their experiences and like what they did. Like, I once took a Texan to a wedding.

I used to live in Kansas City, Missouri. I got my kicks on Route 66. They're talking about all the things they saw and experience and it's flashing before their lives, before they're ended. Mm-hmm. And I know there was an Indy 500 car. Yes, there was. And he got into a wreck in the Indy 500. Couldn't even remember if he placed.

Yeah. Yeah. So it was like, that was brutal. And there was a young death at a young age. Yeah. There was a hearse talking about how it took, you know, bodies to the cemetery and stuff like that. Yeah. And it's, and it's giving like. You know, it's giving, it's, it's the end of life. It's, it's, it's the end of life.

Yes. It's, it's the recollection of like your time spent and that the end is here, but it's also giving not a humanistic, , aspect to these inanimate objects, but in a sense it is.  It's talking about the stories. Memories. Memories. Yeah. And we all have toys and appliances that have been in our lives, , you know, since we were young.

And we remember things that we had when we were kids and it's always tied to a piece in time. And, you know, it's how you view like this movie. Yeah. Like anything. And it's just, it's all about how you view it and what it means to you and whether you carry that with you or not, but eventually it will come to an end.

Yeah. Yep.  And it's so poetic and. So deep. But it strikes you to the core. I don't, but like did you also,  I just wanna know, Andrew, did you also pick up on like the, like the theological overtones of like Christianity? Yes. Yeah. In this last part. Really in the, the words of the song and, and stuff. Well, and, and I want, I wanna drive that back while you're bringing it up, Kyle, to the point of earlier we were talking about the master and oh, you know, a sense of purpose is this whole movie mm-hmm.

Is a sense of purpose. And they're pursuing something that may not exist in this whole movie because they don't know anything about the master or what, like, they just know it's this kid in their childhood, they have faith. They believe in something that's, you know, bigger and greater than them, and he's gonna return and he's gonna return and, and save them  and give them a purpose, right?

Mm-hmm. , so  it is kind of like death is not there, you know, because even if we're used up the master, save us. And in this point, you know, we talk about going through the lifespan of these appliances where they go out in the world on their own. They don't really know anything, but they believe full on the master will save them.

 They have all these like instances where , they hit a midlife crisis.  They're kind of booted out for new people, which could be their kids. Yeah, because they're a descendant. Like we're talking lamp to lamp and now these new appliances are kicking 'em to a home and now they're in a home, which is this junkyard of used up cars and appliances that are on their last leg.

No one's coming for them. And so at this point, you know, they're still believing in the master that's gonna save them. So it is like very religious, I would say like the most, like the pinnacle for me of that. That whole setup that you just described, chase was when like the, I mean, we're just, I mean, we're gonna have to talk about it eventually.

So, you know, the toaster does sacrifice himself. Yeah, sure does. They are, they are. Very much like Jesus sacrificed himself for, to save all mankind, to save everybody. Like it's, and you know, that did stop, you know, everlasting death. It's a whole, it's a whole like thing in that moment. Talk through that scene, Kyle, because that's a very pivotal scene.

They're finally, yeah, there. So essentially there, there's like this whole, it's, I'm gonna distill it down to this. It's a cat and mouse between the magnet and the appliances with the master there. And it's, yeah, he shows up. He shows up. We forgot that little part. The TV's help. Yeah, the tv. The TV helps him and he decides to go there.

 That part was cool. , so they, they got to the same, what is it? What do we say, Blair? It's a junkyard. Yeah. Junk. Junkyard. Yeah, junkyard. Okay. So it's a junkyard, essentially. And he's going there because he didn't find the appliances and wants to get some discounts or whatever.

No. But he gets there and then again,  this is like a whole seven minute scene of like, them just barely missing each other by like a hair's breath. And like, there's  the magnet trying to get them, they gets them and they get it put on the conveyor belt into the smasher, but then they jump off.

That happens like two other times. So it's essentially, it's just building tension. Yeah. I'm not really missing anything there. But the combination is that the master finds out on the conveyor belt, oh, this is my blanket. Oh, this is my radio. Oh, this is, you know, and, and goes down the line. And the only one that's kissing is the toaster.

And, but the master gets pinned to the conveyor belt when junk gets put down on him because he, he's trying to hold onto his stuff and the magnet got him. And he just,  he's pinned there and this thing is crushing everything in front of him. He's next and then closer and closer, and the toaster closer and closer inch and closer and closer.

The toaster sees him. He is up on high and sees him, and it's,  this whole like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And then the toaster decides I'm gonna jump into the cogs of the machine and let it mangle my body so I can save everybody I love. And it's so, so poignant and very, I don't know what the right, like, it, it is religious.

Yes. But there's also like some like, you know, warrior like mentality thing in there. Like, this is my, these are my brothers, these are my people. I will do whatever it takes. There's a, there's. There's a big community. Like  it's a lot of different things at one time. Yeah. And it, it's like it's purpose of life, right.

The toaster had a purpose at that point where the whole Yeah. Right. He found his a new purpose. Yeah. The whole point was  he finally had a purpose and that was to save everybody. And then he ends up saving the master. And it's weird that this kid does not have a name at this point in the movie. No. Was it Chris?

No, it is. Did they? His mom said it. Oh, Chris sounds right. I don't know. I think it, I think that's what it was. I think maybe it's Chris. I think that was the girlfriend's name. Chris is the girlfriend's name. You're right, you're right. Yeah. Oh, that's such a eighties girl name. And it's with a K? No, it's spelled C-H-R-I-S because it's like Christina in the credits.

Yeah, Christina. Okay. Yeah. . But yeah, that's, you know, toaster saves him,  and it gets all mangled. And then fast forward, we're back in the apartment and he's fixing up the toaster.  It's in their dorm room, right? Is it the, no, I think, no, it's in, it was back at the apartment because. He drove away at the end, if you remember, he packed up the car and drove away.

But they're back in the apartment. He's fixed up the toaster. I don't know how you fix up Bent and named Mangled or why metal, or why because he sacrificed himself. Chase God. Yeah. There's always redemption. Always. Was it gonna be like, oh my gosh, thank you so much mean man, this toaster saved me. So, but he,  saves the toaster, fixes him up, throws all those appliances in the back of his trunk with the trunk wide open and drives off into the sunset.

And that's. Pretty much it. Maybe he becomes, maybe he's a visual arts major in college and turns the toaster into some kind of like art. He mgls it further maybe. Yeah, that'd be, you know, and which I saw it as, uh, the appliances were crushed in this reality. Yes. And this is them life after day.

This is their heaven. Yeah. Yeah. And this is their heaven. So now  they're with the master. And then that wraps up the brave little toaster. Yeah. Oh man. Oh man. A lot to take in. I feel like we rambled a lot, but there's just so much to digest and.  Dissect and  it's a whole plate. It's a lot.

It's a whole plate of, it's a lot stuff. So, Blair, let's start with you. Since you're the guest, and this is the movie you chose, I sure did. I's how do you feel about Watching's? How do you feel about watching this movie now as an adult versus when you were a kid? Okay. I meant to say this earlier, I've been, it's not like I haven't tried to watch this movie since I was a kid.

I've tried, but like we said, it's really hard to find, , once I no longer have my VHS copy and slash a way to play a VHS. , I've tried to rent it before on, , various platforms and you can find the other two, but you can't find the og. And, , I am, I honestly. I completely understand why I liked it, just based off of what the other films I liked as a child, which were also really sad and scary.

, I loved it. I still really liked watching it as an adult. , , I under, I feel like there's a lot, I understand the themes a lot more, although there's still a lot of metaphors that, things that you brought up and like, oh man, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I would never have thought about it. , I take things for just face value.

I just don't, again, I don't believe in metaphor for toast or value. Yeah, right. Sure, sure. But yeah,  I thoroughly enjoyed it. , I would watch it again. I'm gonna definitely recommend it to other people and say, Hey, have you watched that movie in a while? You should look it up on YouTube. 'cause you can watch the full movie there.

Andrew, what about you? How are you feeling?  I don't know how I watched this movie as a kid and was okay. , but I, are you okay? Are we okay? We consider you okay? Yeah. Fair enough. Are you, us? Okay. But like, I don't, there's no way  I could have concrete handed any of  the themes or, you know, what they were trying to showcase in this.

 It's a very mature movie and, you know, I. The creator,  Reese, I think his name's John Reese, uh, writer, director. , he did a Reddit ask me anything. , a couple years ago, may have been like five years ago, but he had spoken to, , the idea or the targeted audience for this. And it was for people who are coming of age, people who are going off to college.

It wasn't meant for kids. Ever from the start. Yeah. Which is interesting. Which is pretty obvious, but those are his words. Exactly. And that was one of the reasons Disney didn't like, 'cause they wanted it geared towards more children, where this was for a mature audience, you know, ages 17 to 21. And it's supposed to, he said his goal was to really, you know, , think about all the, you know, toys and, you know, items you had in your life and, you know, talk about  the value and you know, place that they held in your life and what that meant.

And that's why they gave them animation and gave them, you know,  livelihood. So it was for people who were older and moving on into a different chapter of their life. And I think it's perfect for people our age. So I actually have recently, I'm really good at timing, so I've just now found the notes that I took on the novella that was written by, I feel like we need to say his name.

Thomas M Dish. Yes. Dish with an SCH dish ish.  The Jerry Reese novella. Sorry, I wanna say Jerry Reese. What? I don't what I said before that, but go on. Sorry. Jerry Reese and Thomas M Dish. There you go. He wrote the novella and it was written as a bedtime story for children. Interesting. And when they read it, and it did win some awards, but, , there was a quote that  I don't remember it exactly, but somebody was like, yeah, this isn't for children.

This is for like eccentric adults basically. Yeah. , the, it was not super well, , received by certain groups of people who thought, this is definitely not for children. , but it was, he, so originally it was intended for children, and so I guess that's what they were trying to. To recreate with the movie, but then not e either way.

I mean, that was the case for a lot of things in the eighties. Yeah, there were a lot of things that we, that would not get made for children these days. They would not go to children's movies now and. Reese wanted this to be a movie that, you know, we look at and reflect on our childhood and how things are vastly different than obviously compared to what they are now.

So like, it's perfect for people of our age and, , I'm glad we watched it. Yeah. Kyle, what about you?  As a child. It really impacted everything looking back on this that I, anything that had to do with mortality or like the afterlife or like, you know, aging, like this is kinda where that stems from.

And  it's,  I don't know if they meant to make this so, so good, but it's, it's very, very well done. It's the voice acting is incredible. So good.  The score is very good and it's, it's, it sounds like it's from another time. Yeah. It sounds like it's from the fifties, sixties, even forties.

Yeah, it does. Kinda like what you were saying, Blair, like with like the Fantasia fania kind of element to it, very Fantasia. It's very, very much one, one can't exist without the other kind of thing.  On its own, but together they're, they make some an, a higher level of art and just the, you know, again, whether they meant it or not, but some of the allegories that are there and some of the, you know,  the fun games that we get to pick apart with this is, it makes it something more than what it is.

It kind of transcends itself in that sense. And I know it, it sounds weird because we're talking about an old Disney movie from the eighties, but it very much is a , special movie that wouldn't, like, like Chase was saying that this would not get made today. This would, this is, this is something that would be very, like,  why, what's, what's it about?

Okay, well this is really scary. It's gonna scare kids. And, oh,  this is a little too heady for everybody. We don't need make movies like this. But it, it, it's, I think it informs you as a child, like, you know, facts of life, things about the world, and it's told in a way that's realistic, , at least.

And it's, it's, it's scalable to a child. So I think that it, I think it, it does more, it, it punches above its weight as what I, as what I'll end with it is, it is indeed a classic. I think, I think it's the first movie we've watched on this show that like, yeah, we've watched some movies that hold up, but this is kind of timeless.

I feel like even though that these appliances are kind of outdated. But it, it doesn't, it doesn't feel old. It feels like we're still dealing with relevant times and energy. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you saying that I picked the best movie? Are you saying that I won this podcast? That's what I'm hearing you, Tyler, or, , what's my mile?

Tell her what, tell her what she want. , , so what you've won is a crisp handshake. By which one of you, young lady Andrew. Oh, Andrew's the most Ted of us all. Yep. Andrew has the crispiest handshake. He does. So glad to be here. Yep. I've got my calloused hands. Can't wait. They're very dry all the time.

Rotting fingernails. Oh God. , I've got Eat with your hands exclusively. Athlete's hand, usually at Athlete's Foot. I have it on my hand. So is that because you've been doing a lot more instinct recently, Andrew? Yeah.  He has to wear socks on his hands at all times. I regret every decision I made leading up to now.

So,  this is, yeah, this is indeed a classic movie that I think as an adult is way better way than it was as a kid. Way, way. And I don't usually you don't say that very often 'cause usually there's a whimsical of some of these movies that like hit harder when you're a kid. But this one just makes you think, it makes you like try to paste a lot of things together.

, and understand and you relate to it in every way because , we're at this point in our life where a lot of this movie has existed, our coming of age, our getting out in the world, , feeling like we're older than we are. Yeah. Feeling like there's newer models coming out and feeling like some days the death is not that far.

Well, and we also, I mean, I don't know if this is something to be said about us 'cause we're so  awesome, or just the movie itself, but we did all love it as kids. Like that's the cool thing about it is like, it's so great  as an adult because of all the deep themes, but I didn't get any of that as a kid and I still loved it.

Yeah. Even though it was terrifying. There's. Yeah. It's, it's kind of a, it's kinda a magical movie to me. This is, it's not loss of innocence that I feel, but it's kind of that like, everything is fleeting in life. Every moment in time is life. So those things that you clinging onto and think about so fondly, it's so short.

So, you know, cherish what you have when you have it. And , that's what I ultimately take from, from this. And I want to put a a, a period to this too. 'cause it's weird because this movie itself is kind of becoming itself Yeah. Lost a time. Yeah. Because it's not gonna exist. How ironic. That's so meta.

It's not gonna exist on any other media unless people like us save it, which could happen. Can we be the toasters? No, I don't wanna go into, I don't wanna go into that machine toaster. You have to throw yourself into a bunch of gears. No, I'm scared. I, I know you wanted to succinctly pin that, but I wanted to add on that in this a MA that Jerry Reese had.

, he had talked about how he had tried to make a sequel, a true sequel to this in 2009. No, it goes to Mars. No, not that one. Or Brave La. Toast of the Rescue. A true sequel and. You know, a lot of like the, , funders and, you know, people who had put money into it, like backed out. And then, , somehow the banks came and , wanted their money and they had to shut the project down.

And he pretty much said that the big wigs in charge, like Disney, like shut it down and made sure it didn't happen. Yeah. And it was supposed to be and be a sequel leaving off from where the movie ended and the people who hold the strings made sure it did not happen. Yeah.  And there's no, and the only thing that exists on this is a VHS copy.

Yeah. And it won't be long before those will be completely obsolete and we won't find those anymore. And because you can't even go to like, and we are so thankful for video drone, if everyone's listening out there, it's video drone. Yeah. And they don't even have a copy of the V It makes me mad that Disney wants to do a shitty live action remake of Snow White.

But they don't wanna put this out there for the masses. No. A shitty one. Are you kidding me? Oh, that. Oh, who saw that comment? 1.7 on IM db. What, speaking of, do we wanna do IMDB scores for this real quickly before we, , quit? Yeah. Before we wrap it up? First off. Blair, does this movie hold up? Oh my gosh. Ab, absolutely.

, I think, yeah, like I said, I think it's even better. I'm not gonna say I liked it more as an adult than as a kid. 'cause I, again, I really liked it as a kid, but , I thoroughly enjoyed it. Andrew, 100%. Sorry, I kind of just jumped in there, but, hundred huge asshole without a doubt. Uh, yes. It holds up.

, Kyle, does this movie hold up? Yes. Very succinct and it got it, chase. Absolutely. I think it is better than as adult than it is as a kid, and I don't say that very lightly or say that very often. Yeah. , so do we want take a guess at what the IMDB is of this movie? Absolutely. Why don't we just,  let's go around and give ours and then, 'cause I know , what it is.

Okay. I cheated a little bit before. Okay. Blair, first, what would be your IMDB rating for this one? And, you know, from listening to  this is her favorite podcast, everybody. It's mine. Oh, this is great. So, and we're hoping that all of her,  her loyal fans, all material girl fans, that's six and a half of them.

Don't ask about the half's. Still more listens. Don't ask. Yeah. . How would, so you know how IMDB ratings work, so No, I don't, can you explain it to me? Okay. So IMDB ratings are  a one to 10 score. You can have a decimal, , I'll give you an example real quickly.  But  it, Andrew treats it like a letter grade.

If you remember the Aaron episode, Aaron Strand told us that he felt like any per any point grade you give it, you think it's better than this percentage of movie. So if you give a movie a Got it, got it, got it, got it. It's just the way that, that, that standardized grades work first, I, I look at it on like a, a letter grade scale, like, you know, and, , an 86 would be, you know, like  a b plus, a BB plus, a b plus.

But it is different thinking about it better than 86% of the movie. That's a little bit different when you thinking about it, but  I like both of those ways. I mean, is this what I want it to be or what I, no, this is what I think it is. Just think you, I'm gonna go with an 8.3. I think it's high. Yeah.

Thanks. , I'll go with a 7.80 Helo. I just, Kyle, what do you think? I was gonna say 7.6. I'm, I'm going eight. One that's high. Yeah, I mean, , the only way that I've. Put it into the eight As if, you know, the script was a little more, I, yeah. I don't want to, you know, trash it 'cause it's, but it's, you know, it is an animated think so.

I don't remember what animated movies are like. I haven't paid enough attention to the IB scores of like, , the Great Mouse detective or anything else. Oh, those are much lower. Are they 7.8 pretty high? Well, they might guess was stupid, so I retracted. What, , what Blair what do you think the actual IMDB rating is?

Andrew, you know Right. I don't think I should get to choose again. Just what you think it is. This is a guess. Yes. We're, we're making you guess here. Don't get nervous. I'm so don't, yeah, don't nervous. Don't retract. Um, 7.7. You're close. It's 7.2. You didn't even give anyone else a guess. Like, sorry, you just cut us all off.

I don't care. You all are worthless at this point. We are godless. Talk to me like that Daddy. 7.2, which I think is low. I think it's low. Yeah. So you're not, we're not terribly far off, but I think , it's more worthy of 7.2. That's fair. Yeah. , before we get outta here, Blair, do you want to tell everyone what you got going on where they can follow you, maybe listen to some music?

Sure.  You can follow my, , band page material, girl Atlanta on Instagram, instant Graham and the Facebook, and then also Dorothy Blair, D-O-R-O-T-H-Y-B-L-A-I-R music. , also on Instagram. That's where my, where I play my piano and. Sing my songs, come out to a show. She's mega talented.  Yes, great music, great vibe, great performer.

So yeah, great performer, great at, great at choosing movies to recap from her childhood. There you go. The best song, I say the best so far. Yeah, so far. , so that's it. You know what we do here on this show by now, we reach into your childhood nostalgia. We pull out the movies from your past. Today we pulled out the Brave Little Toaster and found out Blair, it holds up.

It holds up. It's a highly recommended movie. We think you should go back and watch it as an adult.  We really appreciate Blair being on these, this episode. Check her out, follow her on the Instagram and the Facebook for Material Girl and her own Blair Perry Music. Thanks peeps. Kyle, do you know what we're doing next, your mom?

And with that, we are off. We hope everybody has a good, wonderful rest of their day, and we will see you next time.