Hold up just a minute. This is Chase with Kyle and Andrew bringing you another short episode. This time we've got a debate. Yeah, what's that debate Chase?

That debate is, is Die Hard a Christmas movie? Yes. Without a doubt, yes. I mean, it's an action movie and there's Kyle's just being contrarian. It's a fucking Christmas movie.  Before we get into it, we've got two camps here.

Andrew is going to be arguing on the side of yes It is a Christmas movie. Oh, what gave it away? And Kyle will be obviously arguing on the side of no, it's not  So we're gonna start off with Kyle. Kyle, why is Die Hard not a Christmas movie? May it please the court Your Honor,  I bring to you today a case that has no merit, a case that has driven people mad for decades.

A case that is wholly inappropriate to even consider, but here we are having to do so.  This case is that of  Die Hard being an actual Christmas movie , and not an action movie that takes place during Christmas. In one vein, the decor, the atmosphere, the literal date on the calendar would denote this as a Christmas movie.

However, the amount of sheer bloodshed, the amount of  Inappropriate drug use and the lives lost Hans Bubi. , those are going to be pretty egregious non Christmas traditions, such as , the loss of quote unquote, innocent life. , the perversion that was happening in one of the rooms, , people were having sex, ,  and also just.

Were they having sex or were they just like, making out? Oh, they were probably, they were probably fucking. Excuse me,  your honor, they were, You can smack him if you want to. This is a no holds barred debate. Thank you, your honor. , I would have to say, I'm not going to be entertaining any interjections, because I'm very heated about the fact that where's, where is Santa Claus? 

Where is this person that brings the gifts?  Where are the children reaching here? Where are the children reach?  Where's my feel good feeling in this movie? There are children in the movie. Well, not really but they're mentioned but i'll leave that for andrew  to debate  So to close my opening statements  I would like to say that the lack of Santa Claus, the lack of snow,  the lack of the lack of what the lack of General Christmas cheer  the line isn't known as Yippee Ki Yay.

It's not it's Yippee Ki Yay motherfucker, right? It's not like hohoho motherfucker or like,  you know,  so that's gonna Someone out there says hohoho motherfucker.  I mean  Wouldn't that be fitting? Wouldn't that be a memorable line? Can you imagine Santa getting into like some schnapps and  drunkenly flying in the air saying, ho, ho, ho, motherfucker. 

Yeah. Strike that from the record. It's peach schnapps, dude. It's not peach schnapps, it's eggnog. , those are gonna be a couple pillars of why this is not a Christmas movie for me. And that, I rest, your honor. Okay. The defense rests. Alright, so. Opening statement. This is a kangaroo court. I'm in charge.

I'm throwing your testimony out. This is not a court. There's no testimony. I, I. Throwing it, throwing it out. So, everything you said is being disregarded. It's a kangaroo court. I'm in charge. There's no court. Okay, it's a kangaroo court. I'm in charge. No, I'm in charge. No, I'm in charge. No, I'm in charge. No, I'm in charge.

No, I'm in charge.  I'm in charge. I'm in charge. I'm in charge. So, well one,  as the mediator here, this is not a court. No one's being charged for anything here. Well, there is a death penalty for those who get this wrong. But that's not being charged. So, continue. Hey, I was just trying to be creative with my dialogue since Kyle was talking about, you know, your honor and I rest my case.

So, I was just, you know, trying to one on, one up in there. I used to watch Law Order SVU. So I know a lot about the legal system. So it's better. Are you saying sex victims? All right, so I mean there's so many things that make this a Christmas movie. One, it takes place on Christmas Eve. It's a holiday Christmas party at some swanky hotel in Los Angeles.

 You can tell it's cold and we'll get to that but it's cold the weather is right Um, you know that they play christmas music Frequently in the score  I think joyful joyful. We adore thee is played multiple times Hell fucking bruce willis is singing jingle bells.

There's  other songs that come on  of the christmas mood of the christmas spirit , the fact that it takes place on christmas eve alone should  You know, yes, it's violent, but we're talking about a Christmas party gone wrong on Christmas Eve. , that is something to strive for, something to put on a pedestal as, yes, this is a Christmas movie.

  Die Hard is one of those movies that's like,  You come home, , or come back for, for Christmas break, whatever, it's like a Thursday afternoon, you roll in, your dad You come back from war and you put this on to No, you come back and your dad's got AMC on the living room, fuckin Die Hard's on, you watch every minute of it, , At that, like, Thursday before Christmas, or whatever.

 I don't care that what happens in that movie itself is inherently Christmas. The fact that it takes place on Christmas Day is all you really need. And at the end, , they're out,  celebrating that they, , defeated Hans Gruber and the terrorists and whatnot, and it's fucking Los Angeles, and it starts to snow.

It literally starts to snow in Los Angeles. Tell me, that's not winter. Tell me that's not of the season or of the spirit. ,  it could be, you know, the remnants of who's, whoever's ashes were, you know,  created.

 It's timely and , I don't know, for me it,  I can't not watch this and like get put into the preparatory mood before Christmas. Okay. So, I rest my case. Kyle, , what would you like to argue out of that?  Oh, I would like to call my first witness to the stand, your honor.

, I thought we weren't in a fucking court here. We weren't in a court. Kangaroo court here. I'm the boss, let's go. Okay.  Who's your first witness?  I call to the stand Andrew Wiemann.  I didn't agree to this. Will the witness state their name  for the court? My name is Wangewu Wiemann. Thank you.  When you were watching this movie for the very first time,  what time of year was it?

Be honest, you are Probably late November or early to mid December. Mm.  Hmm  Interesting  Did you catch him in a lie? Is that what you're saying? No, your honor. I'm simply building a case. Okay So when we're talking about  Christmas to you. Yeah. What does that mean? Well, it's what does that mean? What is Christmas to you?

, it's a time of year that, , occurs every fucking year. , there's a Sounds monotonous and mundane. There's a Sounds like a build up, there is an idea that things are going to be shut off for a time and then will resume after the fact. , it's very anticipatory, , in terms of decorations and music and, uh, you know, capitalism and, , family and travel.

Transcribed , all of that together is, is Christmas. Hmm. I  feel like you just word vomited.  I mean everything , I said there made perfect sense, but if you want to construe that as vomit go ahead.  I will allow the vomit. Thank you, thank you, your honor. Thank you, your honor. 

, what you've just stated to the court  is,  it makes you feel a certain way because of the travel, the pomp, the anticipation of  getting a gift, of something good happening. I didn't say, I actually didn't mention gifts at all. Well, you are, what are you anticipating then? Elaborate. I mean, it's a time where  you stop what you're doing, , you're not working, and you're spending time with your loved ones.

But what's, what's the build up? You mentioned a build up. Yeah, cause , it ends, and then everything is over, and then we go back to living  our normal lives. Isn't that what life is?  Where is he going with this? What? I think we're, I think we're losing, , listeners by the second. . Continue on. I will allow it. Isn't that life? Yeah,  I guess that is life. So  This is interesting I will say That sounds pretty bleak for the holidays. Kind of like Die Hard. Hmm. Interesting.  Yeah, I'll take that. I'll take that point. And I'll score that for myself, your honor.  One point for the prosecution.

It sounded like it matched what Andrew's like version of Christmas is. Yeah. Or is Die Hard just your version of Christmas? , I have never, , experienced a terroristic hostage situation. Terroristic? Terroristic.  I mean,  terrorists  who want to hold innocent people hostage for their own financial gain, or whatever gain that might be.

I feel like all this is turning into a James Joyce poem.  Like, we're going off the rails here. Alright, Kyle, you're done. Andrew, would you like to debate any of what, any of the ramblings that Kyle came up with?  I will not debate, but I will say that you are in a debate. , I don't need to. I think the only thing I'm going to say is I believe he bolstered my opinion in the case that I proposed to everyone listening and With that I rest my case.

All right. I got some questions.  I'm gonna ask here Kyle. Yes.  Do you not think that man who   At the beginning is on the outside looking into this family  saves them during this holiday Basically saves them or saves her saves her but eventually them because then they would be nor and her name's Holly Her name's Holly.

Yeah  So do you not think that that's kind of like the the idea of Christmas? Is it bringing the family together? Is that what I think of Christmas? Yeah. I think of Christmas as a cesspool of just the worst of humanity. So Die Hard's a Christmas movie. Yeah, because you sound like Hans Gruber.  I don't know about that.

Alright. Also, R. I. P. Alan Rickman. R. I. P. The best. R. I. P.  And Bruce Willis. I mean, he's still alive, but like. It's actually pronounced Woose Brillis. It's tough watching this recently, thinking about him. But go on. And then, Andrew. Yeah. Can murder. Can murder.  Be a part of a Christmas movie. I mean murder is a part of everyday life Christmas, I would say it's not everyday life, but life in general.

, I'm sure people get murdered on Christmas every year. Sure. So Yeah, that's not what that's not what we talk about during Christmas, but it's murder isn't the end goal because the murderer Yes, he did kill some people but he did not win good prevailed good tribes over evil. Yes That's always I thought that was what Easter was not Christmas.

I like Christmas was about like no Christmas is about the Christ the Redeemer being born who eventually triumphed over evil. So ipso facto, that's what it's this is origin story Yeah, it's his origin story. So he he is good. He is evil. So Andrew took a turn there  , he just went lizard brain, he shut off and started doing Catholic shit.

That was so funny. Yeah. He did. How can you not? He did. I don't know if that's a point for or a point against, I can't figure it out. Don't throw Christ the Redeemer down the drain like that. He is the Redeemer though. Don't throw him off a fucking 20 story building. It's not good versus evil, but.  When you think of Christmas, I know Kyle would disagree, but like, good and warmth and, you know, happiness and togetherness is what it's all about, and that's what happened in the end.

Yeah, when they blew up the top of the building. Yeah, and the hostages were freed.  Vast majority. I think the only there's only like two who who died. I'm pretty sure Hans Do you remember the guy that got hit by the brick running down the stairs? Did anybody ever catch that was he was he SWAT?  Or like FBI.

No, , the guy was an extra in the film and as he's running down as they're blowing up the top of the building, , one of the foam bricks hits him in the head and , they kept it in the movie and no one noticed it. , I think everyone noticed it later on when it happened as they've rewatched it over the years, but it's so  funny to see this dude just get pelted in the head by a brick and keep running.

I didn't. If a brick hit you that hard, you would be unconscious or dead. Yeah, you'd be done for.  It must have been foam. Continue. Yeah, it was.  The way it bounced, it was definitely foam. , Kyle, you have a closing statement. Not a ramble. I'll let Andrew go first. Okay, Andrew, what's your closing statement?

I think Die Hard is unequivocally  a Christmas movie, and if you disagree, I think you're just trying to be different. And I have nothing else to say. Kyle, what's your closing statement? , that was all a sham. I do and think and 100 percent believe that Yeah, there's there's really no argument to be made against it it's pretty uh, pretty obvious pretty obvious Yeah, everything that andrew said And especially the lizard brain stuff about Christ and Christ.

Yeah. Yeah, that's  he went full up hit people his eyes glazed over and he just started saying things looking up into the sky. I became the Vatican. He what you you channeled certainly Pope John Paul the second for sure. So I will say the argument most people do make is the one that people hold on to is the murder part. 

Cause it's a rated R movie. , there's no set rules for a Christmas movie, you know? And again, it is, it brings cheer. Cause it brings the family together. , he stops a worldwide danger from happening. It happens at Christmas, there is the snowing. In Los Angeles! Where it doesn't fucking snow.

There's the Christmas music, , there's plenty of, I mean, like, he even dressed someone up as Santa, so even when Kyle said, there is no Santa, that is not true. That is not true.  Tied him to a chair and put ho ho ho, now I have a machine gun. And her name being Holly, I mean, come on. Come on, it's definitely a Christmas movie.

Yeah, and they had that in the back of their mind when they wrote it, too. Well, that's it for this short debate. , let us know in the comments and our direct messages. You can even call Andrew at any point in time during the day or night and let him know if you think Die Hard's a Christmas movie. His number is 9 1 1.

877 CASH NOW  877 CASH NOW I thought you were going to give him like the number to the Catholic Church. I should have looked up like Cathedral of Christ the King's number.    We hope you get to watch Die Hard for this holiday season, and we also hope you have a great holiday season and we'll see you around next time.