Hello everybody and happy Thanksgiving. Welcome to Hold Up, the show where we dive deep inside your childhood nostalgia, pull the movies from your past out, and decide if they truly hold up. In this holiday season, I'm holed up with Kyle and his lovely partner Andrew. I'm his partner? I think it's the other way around.

He's my partner. We're life partners together. He's the one who signed the contract that I wrote up. No, we both agreed that we would be partners. So, it's not like a sidekick. Batman and Robin aren't partners. Hey Kyle, what's the first rule of improv?  Always deny it. Exactly. Good on you. Good on you. That's good Thanksgiving knowledge though, teaching people like improv and the first rule.

Yeah, we won't be doing that on this podcast because there's too much contention. We won't be providing any information on this podcast. on this podcast.  Because , I forgot this podcast was about improv. Yeah. That's my bad. . 

I feel like this podcast is just a bunch of nonsense that no one listens to. Well, that's why we do it. At this point we're just listening to ourselves ramble about, , listening to ourselves.

This is kind of like our therapy session where we just, like, release. You know? There's a release already. Pent up anxiety and tension and people, you know, not showing up to their classes and you know, Things of that nature. I'm glad. I'm glad to be reminded of that. Speaking of pent up anxiety and nature, we're gonna talk about Temple of Doom today.

Oh, nice segue. Chase you. Yeah, you saved us right there. Wow. I was waiting on it. But before we dive head Firstt in Kyle, it is the Thanksgiving season. So describe your mood as a Thanksgiving food. As a Thanksgiving food. Yeah, I think that would be fun for all the people involved.  I don't, and if you're listening and you like Thanksgiving food, I don't get it.

But you know, that's me. Well, you can go ahead and fuck yourself up a tree friend. Okay. That's, I don't aggressive, I don't think you understand the joy of Thanksgiving food, but there is always, there's always a couple foods. So I'm like energy. Today's like , if your whole family fucked everything up, but the cranberry sauce and a pumpkin pie and that's all you had. 

Those are my two least favorite Thanksgiving dishes by a long shot. I think pumpkin pie is the worst thing ever. I was so worried. I thought you were going to say you like cranberry sauce. And I was going to be like, yeah, you fucking loser. No, no, no. That makes me really happy. Thank you. It's pretty awful.

Cranberry sauce is always made for your grandparents.   My mood is if. , if everybody fucked up everything, and somebody dropped the turkey on the floor , and it got everywhere,  and  the stuffing was burnt, and the mashed potatoes were just liquid.

Burnt stuffing. And, yeah, burnt stuffing. Poof. And then all you had to eat was, uh, Pumpkin pie and cranberry sauce,  it would ruin the holiday for me for forever. I would never be able to, to come back from that. I would, it would And that's where you're at right now? That's where exactly where I'm at.

You're on the brink of never being able to come back? That's correct. Wow. , that's pretty dramatic. I'm on a precipice. , that's him in a level six and a half. Like he's not that bad, but he's not that great either. It's in the middle.  It's in the middle. It's all about perspective, I guess.

 We're tackling a movie today  in the middle of a trilogy. Hey! But, not in the middle as far as scoring goes. Or opinions. Which we'll get to all that. Or opinions. , Temple of Doom.  , there's some people out there going, Well, why aren't you doing Raiders of the Lost Ark? Yes, this is our first 80's movie we're hitting. But it felt like Temple of Doom was one that every 90s kid watched over and over again. It was, it was on TV all the time. Took the words out of my mouth. It was all the time on TV, this one.

 Raiders is an all time classic.

Like, I have no, no qualms with saying that that's , in my  favorite movies of all time. For sure. It would show up on TV occasionally, but it seemed like Temple of Doom was just on repeat. I don't know about the rights, I couldn't find out anything on why. Yeah, and it's not Paramount and 20th Century Fox.

 This was the mid 90s when we were watching TV a lot, and it's not like Temple of Doom was that close to the 90s, it was 84.  It was ten years, right? So like, I remember seeing this like when I was six or seven.

That was about ten years ish, a decade or so past. Think about something else that came out  a decade ago now.  The movie 2012. , like literally I almost said Dodgeball, Yeah, that was a long time ago. It was twenty years. Fuck. But , there's a lot of, there's been a lot of stuff that's come out. Like, one of the James Bond movies came out Not too long after that like and that's been about a decade from now  and those movies that we would still be like, oh, yeah, that's a pretty new movie Yeah, so  it's still a definitely Still worked from you know, the mid 80s to the mid 90s when we saw it, right?

It's definitely showing its age now. It did about 12 years ago, I think and now it's definitely like   it's looking pretty old. , but It still has  That nostalgia feel though. Yeah. Because , it is one of those movies that came out in the 80s that paid homage to the golden age of filmmaking.

There was a lot of movies like that, , especially anything that Steven Spielberg got his hands on.  I think that name alone just screams nostalgia. , the set pieces and the way that the acting was directed in this movie, it does remind me a lot of those , 80s films that,  almost like they were almost like plays.

Yeah,  like the early 50s movie Musical Golden Age musical kind of feeling to it like a South Pacific or a King and I or something and I yeah something very Great. I mean, well they use they use a Cole Porter song in the beginning of it, which is in  Anything goes the musical obviously,  it's a pretty indicative  Peek into what this movie is gonna be like and it but that's that we'll get into it But like I'm gonna say this right now.

It doesn't disappoint for what it claims to be Yeah, and it's weird we're doing this during November, I thought about like putting this on our October schedule because this movie was terrifying as a child. Yeah, pretty scary. Yeah, especially when you get towards the end. Towards the end and the thuggy cult and all that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would agree. And imminent doom, imminent death like multiple times. Yeah.  There's a lot of like great little atmosphere and there's scenes that like really harken to old days, especially the old universal monster, , especially the mummy character, they, they did really well with the temples and  all the, like the set pieces and they go with a , wide shot on a lot of this.

So you feel like you're in the room. most of the time with these characters if they're getting crushed or beaten up or , they're falling off something you feel like you're falling too And and that's what I appreciate about  An action movie from that day and age because it feels like everything now is like zoomed in tight shots It's always an upper torso above with lens with something blurred in the background.

It's it is very  Personal but  it becomes  Too personal almost like it's just like a video game. Yeah, I don't need that. I'll play Bethesda game if I want that It's just it's become something that's not really it's not as fun to watch yeah,, I guess we can segue that too is like  As an action movie, this was, at the time,  very looked forward to.

Like, everybody was in big anticipation because we don't have to say it about Raiders of the Lost Ark. I think we can save our time on this episode. If you're listening to this, And you're thinking about Raiders of the Lost Ark, one of the best movies time. , George Lucas, Steven Spielberg masterpiece.

Like it's, it still holds up like, , it hasn't really aged that much. No. Like it's crazy. Because  it's doing the time that it was , written for very well. Yeah.  It's a very well done period piece that was still fresh in everybody's memories. And this is like the early 80s.

World War II had finished 35 years before that. So there's a lot of people probably working on this movie in proximity to it. That were around a lot of those, , aircraft, around those vehicles, around  the costumes in general, like the clothing. Think about things that people wear at thrift stores, and like, how that is like a, there's always a recurrence of something that happened before.

So I feel like that was really important. . Well, within that timeframe, that movie, we don't even need to do an episode on it. We're we're good.  Yeah. We're probably, it holds up. We're probably not. It holds up. Go watch it. Go watch it. Yeah. I mean, like that's one of those movies that's just a no-brainer.  It's subjective. Some people are going to be like, Oh, this movie. So yeah, but those people can fuck off. Yeah. But honestly, if you have that opinion, you're just being a contributor. You are. But what I'm saying is that movie is one that a lot of people just can't argue with, like it's a, you may not put it in your top 10, top 15 movies of all time, but someone's going to watch that and go, that's a great movie.

, definitely one of the all time classics. And now, , we get the sequel, and we know what happens to a lot of sequels. They end up,  faltering and being collapsed under the pressure of the original. But there were so many sequels around that time that  lived up. I mean, you got Empire Strikes Back.

Back to the Future Part II. Yeah, you also have Aliens. Like, there are so many in that tight window that were  It's as good, if maybe, maybe not better than the first. Second Terminator. Yeah, which so many Yeah, which barely missed the 80s, but Barely. But it, I, I still loop it into this. I still connect to it.

 This is definitely one that is, you know,  It lives up to the hype in some ways and in other ways it does its own thing completely. Right. And I think at the time this movie, , when it released out, and I'm going to get Andrew to get us some numbers in a second, , , it was a success.

Like I don't even have to, I haven't seen the numbers. I don't need to see the numbers. I know this movie probably pulled in a lot of money, but I do remember,  especially growing up ,  A lot of people talk negatively about it for a long time I think it's starting to kind of gain a little bit more traction as kind of like a movie of its time and  I think it was seen as like Not a very good sequel when it first launched.

 Again, as many times we talk about aliens, we talk about like Terminator 2. It doesn't, it doesn't always happen. Most of the time it doesn't happen at all. Most of the time the sequel is hot garbage or, you know. They shouldn't have touched it. Why do they have to ruin a good thing?

Yeah, or they went completely off the wall and did too many different things and ,  you almost can't win with sequels a lot of times, , I wanted to touch on that because I mean as kids we all watched it But we didn't grow up with it. Like we weren't and we weren't going to theaters to see it.

 Well that kind of brings you up to another thing which was And I think this is a myth I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard the story enough to think that it might be real Which is the pg 13 rating  Somebody had told me once  When I was working on a film that like, that's why it was made was specifically for this movie because it was quite dark than like even the movie that came before it and was, and for most other things around that they're like, well, it's either PG or R you got to cut this out or you got to make it R and they're like, well, that's too much of a difference.

We can't do that. ,  from what I heard,  Steven Spielberg and other said producers lobbied for the, what's the film, is it the film commission? I don't know. Uh, MPAA. Yes. Yes. That's the full name. And like they lobbied for this to be  the first PG 13 movie.  I actually read up on this today before we started doing this.

So what had happened was when the movie released a lot of parents were angry That it was a PG rating because it was I mean there's  I mean when he sticks his hand in his chest, like, you know, you throw a couple fucks in there You're at an R rating pretty quickly. Yeah, so like um  It's it's dark as fuck.

It's dark And so a lot of parents were upset and Steven Spielberg at the time wrote to the MPAA about doing  Like, movie ratings in between R. Because R was a death rating at the time. Like, kinda like, you know, NC 17 is a death rating for a lot of films. It was, I don't think it's not so much anymore.

There's also not a lot of movies made in that mode. Yeah, I mean, NC 17, , you're pretty much banned. What was that, Antichrist? That was the last NC 17. I don't even know if that was NC 17. I think it was just unrated. Wasn't there a movie  It was like,  it was a whole bunch of comedic actors. It was horrible.

It had, it was like the number  it was something short, but I'm pretty sure it was NC 17. Chris Pratt was in it. Anna Faris. It was a whole slew of  shitty comedians,  but that's what it is. Yeah. , anyways, go on. MPAA and was talking and was like, we have to do stuff in between because not everything's going to fall into that PG or R rating.

And he actually had a PG 13, R 13, like he had even more ratings than the MPAA actually eventually went with, but this movie is technically what started the PG 13 rating, so yeah, you're right.  I was  sure that it would, that it could have been like an urban legend, but like it made so much sense when I heard it that I was like, I don't know. It feels like it's pretty, pretty accurate because that movie is NC 17. It's definitely in between those two ratings. It is. If it's released now, it's PG 13 easily.

For real. I think it's scarier than Jurassic Park. And Jurassic Park is something I would very much call a PG 13 movie. They were so lax on ratings back in the day. Yeah. So lax.   It seems like now,  You have your hard cut offs too, like it's,  You only have so much blood you get, , you can't say fuck more than once. 



 Is it shit or damn, like those don't mean anything either, like you can just, you can say those. Yeah, I think shit is like after, , TV ratings after nine o'clock, you can start saying shit.  It's like weird little stuff. Good to know. 

 That leads us, so Andrew, what did this PG 13 movie do at the time? Oh, we have some, , some juicy, , numbers.  I feel like we got some plumpy plumpers. Alright, so, budget was 28 million. Cool, 28 million. Especially in the 84, Yeah, 28 million? Yeah, that's a big Opening weekend?

No, that's the budget. Oh, the budget. Oh, shit. Now, do you wanna guess what, , domestic opening brought in? Pfft, I'm gonna guess conservatively and say 80 million. Eh, you might wanna go down a bit. Opening weekend? . Domestic opening week. I think it made its money back in opening weekend. I think, I think 30, 35 million.

Almost 26 million.  Well, that's a great opening weekend if your budget is 28. , wait, weekend or week? It just says domestic opening, so I would imagine just like So probably a weekend. The weekend, yeah. That's a lot of money. Could be week, could be weekend if it doesn't specify it here. But! Again, with an 84 lens on it too, that's Yeah. 

That's a big budget, and that's a big opening weekend. They made everything back essentially, , within that first week, which is great. And they knew they were going to be reeling in from there on out. So, I'm going to guess that this movie probably hit the upper 300 million mark. You'd be correct. I wouldn't necessarily say upper, 300 mil.

Nice. So that's worldwide. That's worldwide, of course.  Domestic all together was a hundred and like 80 million international 153 million and then worldwide 330 333 yeah  Which is pretty, pretty impressive. Very good. Which means we green light a sequel. Absolutely we do. We make this sequel the, the, some people would say the best.

 That's just like, swimming in money. That, that drops in the pocket. Generational money right there. For real. Well that's just, and that's why Henry Ford, , Harrison Ford, good old H boy.  H guy. H man.

H man. , he was the highest grossing actor in Hollywood of all time, up until he got divorced from his wife because of movies like this, Star Wars, Tom Clancy, and others. All those early 90s and, yeah. , y'all wanna guess what the highest grossing film of 1984 was? 1980, highest grossing? Yeah. Ooh. Cause back to the future question. 

, and I know Back to the Future did a lot of damage. I don't know a lot that came out. I'll give you a hint.  Classic comedy,  in a sense. Yeah, it's a comedy. A comedy? Breakfast Club? I mean, no, no, no. That's a good guess though. Think, , , what's the Improv Chicago group? What's the name of them? Do you know?

I know, I'm trying to think. Second City. Second City. Jesus.  Think Second City.  Second City, Chicago. Second City, Toronto.  It's Ghostbusters. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. See, that's something I would classify as like a sci fi than a comedy, but it is a comedy. It is a comedy. It is a comedy. There's so many dudes in  that are just some of the greatest comedic actors you've ever seen, so.

And I'm a huge Ghostbusters fan, but I didn't think it would have been the highest rating. That's a fun fact. But Bill Murray was on a heater at that time. Absolutely. Better than the last movie we saw, man, the movie we haven't talked about yet. Oh my god.  You've already listened.  Now, I want to make a correction here, because that's just domestic gross.

If you compare it to international It is, of course, , Temple of Doom. Because it's, I think, , Temple of Doom, , knocks it out of the park internationally by another hundred million. But, domestically, Ghostbusters was number one.  I know a country it didn't knock it out of the park in. What's that?

, Temple of Doom was banned in India, I was gonna say. Wonder why. No longer is it banned, but at the time. Sure, they don't sit down and watch that casually for fun. They are very offensive as well. , I read where it all started  when The producers, flew out to India to find different places where they can shoot and film because they're trying to find the,  the temple and, obviously the landscapes and everything because there's a lot of like scenery that's based in India in this movie.

They wanted to film it all on location. I thought so. And when they got there, India, you know, kind of, Low baldum wanted more money, all this other stuff. And then they  found out about the script and kind of didn't really, nothing really worked. And so they  banned them from filming there.

And so they had to  move everything to offset and.  They had to move everything to like more stage design Didn't they go to sri lanka for a lot went to sri lanka for a little bit now There are a couple of scenes that are filmed in india and they did like the castle I think was filmed in india but  They did  a frame painting behind it too so that they can redesign the world around it So they're not like saying hey technically we filmed in india , so a lot of shady stuff they had to do to just get this movie You  , when the government saw it, they were like, this is an absolute disgrace to Indian culture.

We can't do this. Yeah. And, and  boy, are we going to get to that? But, , they banned it for a long time. And then since then they've   eased up on it. But it is, I mean, when you watch it now through this lens, you're like, Yeah, we would've never gotten that as kids , ,  so, well, it's no longer been in India, so maybe, , there's some peace amongst the,  Temple of Doom fans. There. Maybe we got some listeners, , well, , are we ready to do it? Are we ready to, let's go.

Let's go baby. Alright, let's go do it. Guide us.  . So Kyle, this movie opens up and I don't know, I get a lot of familiarity here with another beloved. 

 Character who also doubles as an agent.  There we go. Yeah. Yay. Uh, very James Bond like intro here. , the suit,  , like really gave me James Bond vibes, which , I think Spielberg did that on purpose too. I think he said that he like really loved the James Bond movies and he was supposed to work on a James Bond movie at the time and it didn't work out.

And Temple of Doom  and the Indiana Jones series worked out. And that's how he was going to make his version of James Bond. Well, I feel like Harrison Ford has the suave to pull something off too. So like 100%,  he deserves that. Absolutely. He would. Yes. If there was ever an American James Bond allowed, it would have been Henry, it would have been Henry, Harry Ford.

So with his nice, lovely James Bond suit and suave mentality, , where are we? Well, you've, you've missed the opening opening though, because that's the,  Cole Porter rendition of, um, Anything Goes. Anything Goes. Yeah. And that is one of my favorite parts of the entire movie because it completely puts you in one world and then not even ten minutes later you're in a completely different world and the lighting's different, the people are different.

Like, it does location change very well so that you believe it because there's a lot of unbelievable things in this movie that you kind of have to be sold on. And it really sets the stage for that early by making that so different. And it's just it is if you've ever been to a musical and you've ever been to like an old rogers and hammerstein or What aaron's and flirty or something something along those lines?

You're gonna  it's very much like that. It's just gaudy over the top doesn't make any sense Gershwin, yes  something very grandiose and It, they sell it really well. There's a lot of fun movie magic that happens in this first scene, but they're like tap dancing, it's a bunch of showgirls, and it's, uh, God in costumes.

Yes.  It feels very stuffy when you're, you're watching. It does, but , it does work out really well. , and that, then it leads us into our  Harry Ford just chilling out, , with a, , with a bunch of other nefarious fellows at a round table, and they're in this.  1930s like casino.

Yeah hotel kind of thing like I mean ballroom ballroom Yes, that's a good way to put it something like that. But it's very It's but what kind of style is it? It's like a  Art decor. Yeah, noir. Yeah, it's a blend of a lot of genres in this one See, I do think I'm with you.

This is the best scene in the movie. It's very very well done There's a whole  Nowhere to go from here But  there's a man that he's trying to sell Something to nirhachi. He's trying to sell nirhachi to this man, and he has two accomplices with him and  they're trying to like negotiate for this nirhachi And at that, around this time, Willie, the person who was singing the song in the beginning that anything goes in, which I don't know if that, I don't know what language that was in, if it was Cantonese or I don't know what it was, but she sang that whole song in that foreign language.

I don't know how well she's doing. Um, but like, you know, it sells it. Someone out there. But like for us Americans who have no idea,  any Eastern language to us is just like crazy, crazy weird. , it sold it well enough and she comes out and ,  she's the side piece of this main villain that we have in the beginning.

And she,  is like, inserting herself in this place. Nobody wants her there. They're all like, Go away, please. We don't, we don't need that. And she's like, , who's this Nurhaci fella? And, I'm glad you said that because  this is her character the whole time. And it does not get better than this. Well, I will agree with you there, but I'm gonna say she's my favorite character.

Is she really? I think she's written really well. I think her, I think she's a lot of funny moments  That are that creep up on you and are just like they're very they relieve tension She's not her character is not pretending to be anything different than what it is. She's a damsel in distress I was gonna say she doesn't she's meant to be obnoxious.

Yeah Yeah, but she's funny and , I know people like that , it might seem very like inflated, but , you've met people like that in your life. Who are just so, like, useless. Oblivious, yes. , to what real things are happening. That they're just so concerned about cosmetic stuff.

, it's just so funny to insert her in these situations. As a kid and as an adult,, I think she was very funny. When I say favorite, I just think , it's the most familiar to me out of all the characters in this movie. That's something that we didn't have in the first. There wasn't a lot, there was comedy in the first, but it was very an act like, Cutty, you know, cutting action kind of like. 

I mean, her screaming and crying, like,  that's so tied to this movie.  You can just hear that at all times. Indy! Indy! Indy! It's so good though. Jesus. But , but I do like her, but I agree with you, it doesn't really get any better from here. So she continues to If you don't like her Yeah, she doesn't really do anything to help herself.

And that's clearly, again, we say this all the time, it was written by a man.  , which is weird, because like the first film, like we had a pretty strong female, , protagonist, and , she was awesome, and she was a real badass. , even the opening scene with her drinking whiskey. Yeah. 

And then we go, and we get this. , it's just  a flip on its head kind of thing. It is, but it, I do think it works. I don't think the movie would work if there wasn't that comedy in there. Just that little salt to the chocolate kind of thing.  It needs to be in there. , they asked Steven Spielberg on why, he didn't want to carry over people from the first movie.

And he said,, he thought that just like James Bond, each movie that Indy does, he should have different side characters. I agree with that. And he was also in love with her, so. Spielberg was, yeah. Yeah. That's his wife. I don't think they, I think I played that up, , wrong or incorrectly when we were speaking about it earlier, Chase.

But that is his wife, they're still married. Yeah, they're still married. But they didn't get married until like.  I think he was, he was going through a divorce or a breakup. So I'll go ahead and segue here.  This movie is really dark. We talk about it and we'll get back to the blow by blow. I'm sorry.

We're dragging this one out. ,  At the time when they were talking to Spielberg and,  Lucas about this movie, Lucas was going through a divorce and Steven Spielberg was going through a breakup. And so they were both in a really dark place and very hateful. and they both say  that's why it's so dark.

They say this movie is a product of their,  where their hearts were. Their minds were. Yeah. Where their, where they were . At the time, which. My God.  Jesus Christ. . ,   

so they're, they have their back and forth what they're arguing over like a diamond. I'm trying to remember the first scene. I was kind of in there trying. , . They have this little turntable on the table that they're on. So it's like a little you push on it and it goes around to one side or the other with something on it. He puts the money on one side, puts the Nerhaci down. And then they rotate it so that the other person has what the other one put down.

And , they try to pick it up, and  things start getting weird because they toast. Um, and  They think they have a deal. They think they do. And they toast, and, and in the end It turns out, he's poisoned. Yeah, they drip a little bit of that, uh Grandma's extra, extra stuff. Yeah, the blue stuff. Who knows what that is.

It was just moonshine. He just wasn't able to handle it. It was that southern Kentucky moonshine.  Maybe it was cone shell venom. Cone snail. It was just mountain dew and crab juice. Yum.  Jesus Christ. But whatever it is, it was,  he drank it unknowingly. And so they have,  they have this little laugh.

The villains do. And he's like, Can you do that laugh? Uh, 

 , they have the laugh because they think that they can keep everything at this point, 'cause he's gonna die. He's gonna die, they're gonna get the diamond back and all the, so then, so then Indy gets creative and then. 

He's like, I'll kill her. And he's like, kill her. I don't care. You keep it. I got the diamond now. We're good. I have three other women in the back. I don't need her. Also, have you listened to her talk?  And then we come up on the shortest lived character of the entire movie. 

His other sidekick shows up and he's got his little waiter thing on it. He's, uh, and he's carrying a tray, but underneath the tray, he's got a Smith and Wesson and he's pointing it at the, at the villain. , all of a sudden wine corks start pop  and one of those pops.

Somehow disguises a, , a 38 caliber pistol, which you would feel in your chest. It doesn't sound anything like that. And, uh oh, his sidekick got shot. And then he falls down. So he's in the movie for maybe 45 seconds, a minute tops. And he is dead. And he just falls down, he's like, This is our last adventure, Indy.

Looks like I go first into the night.  Did he have a name? No, he didn't have a name. Dead McDeady.  . Shotty McDeadface.  Idiot.  Hey, let's have some respect for the dead.  There's not a lot of respect for the dead in this movie. That's for sure.  Or other cultures. 

, after this, a big, big old fight ensues to try to get the antidote. He's like, I'll give you the antidote. Here's the fucking, here's the diamond. And he's like, I don't, you can't have it. I'm taking it. So then they, they get to this hole. How does he get the antidote from him? It was like a back and forth battle.

He skewered, he picks up a Fleming hot skewer and throws it. Which was horrifying because he throws it right into one of the guys and the guy's like ahhhh. Yeah, he's like ahhhh.  And he's like glued into his chair and he starts shooting his gun. He's clearly dead from that shallow puncture wound to his chest. 

That barely got through his ribcage. I don't even know if it really killed him as much as it just shocked him. It just shocked him. But he was not having, he was on fire too, so. Um, so then during that confusion,  Indy tries to grab the, the antidote but winds up grabbing the diamond or something. It gets all pushed off the table.

And then, , Willie sees the diamond and it just tells you everything you need to know about her. That she's just, that's her sole focus. Through gunfire and like, angry, angry men shouting and , confusion. I need that fucking diamond. She's a material girl. And she's living in a material world. Exactly. 

, he ends up getting the antidote, right? And they're like, and he grabs Willie and they're ended up, they ended up making their way out. And what, and they're in, are they in Sri Lanka? No, they're in like Hong Kong or something. Hong Kong? Yeah. , now this car chase happens.

Oh, yes. Great car chase. And they jumped out of the window and they, and they, It went through progressive, uh, what was it? Like awnings? Awnings, yeah. Which they tested on Mythbusters and it was, that was, they were like, yeah, that works. You'll fall off at a certain point, but like, it'll slow you down. Yeah. So like, okay, cool.

But he, we come to  our, my favorite character, , I know I said Willy's my favorite, but the one I related to most as a kid was Short Round. Short Round is my absolute favorite. I love that character. , I can't say how much I love him. Yeah. Yeah. Or, uh, what's his name?  I can't remember his name.

No,  he was in a lot of eight a lot of movies So and he was back. I have to get his name. Um, it's k. Laquan k. Laquan.   And while we're on his character because his character is now introduced and he's like basically  The driver of this vehicle this like five year old. Hey, what's his back story? 

We get one later on  Indy mentions it, but, , the kid that auditioned for it, his brother was actually auditioning for the role of short round and, ,  didn't know that. Yeah. , he was reading for Steven Spielberg and,  oh, his name's Kwan, right?

Yeah. So he like was off, off to the side telling his brother what to say.  and , the casting director noticed it and he was like, that kid's pretty good. , let's get him to read. And he ended up reading and , he didn't know what he was doing. He didn't know anything about Raiders of All Star.

Didn't know who Steven Spielberg was, didn't really know. His brother did know. And his brother was like super nervous, but he wasn't nervous because he didn't know. Mm-Hmm. . And, they were like, oh, he's really good. He's a, he's our role.  I wonder if his brother hates him. I was gonna say, that'd be a good Tetris relationship at some point, right?

So, that's how he ended up getting the role, and at the time, I was like, re watching this, I was like, Oh, no, another, , stereotyped kid. But I think that this is that kid's accent, and I think this kid just doesn't really speak English that well, and that's like the No, because he was born in Vietnam, but was Chinese, after the Vietnam War, his family was moved to Hong Kong, , at some like refugee camp and then he was welcomed into America through some program and got American citizenship in like the early 70s,  or like late 70s, something like that.

So this one checks out, that is that kid, that's that kid playing the kid, so like he's not playing any stereotypes, so we're good there, . And I really and thoroughly enjoy, like Andrew said, like he's one of my favorite parts of this movie for me. He's the best. He's really funny. I love him. When I was a kid, I was like, I want to be that, I want to be him.

And then he went on to do the Goonies and have a great career. Like, I mean, what a way to start your acting career. Yeah, exactly. And by accident, too.  Best way to do it. Best way to do it. Some of the best actors don't know what they're doing. And then he won an Oscar, like, two years ago. 

, basically they're in this getaway mode now, trying to get away from all the, like, the, I don't know how all these people can afford all these henchmen, like, He has a lot. Can you think about the payroll on this guy? Well, I mean, Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg are good, right? Oh, I think they have six henchmen.

I think so. I think they have an army of people. Yeah, whatever. , it gives me a couple of dollars. I'll drive a car. I'll get away a car. I'll do whatever. I'm poor. Give me some money. Patreon. Subscribe to our Patreon. A dollar a month. It's one lump sum when you're done. You don't get it beforehand.  Um, worth it.

 They get away and they make their way to an airport. They do. And  there's , an airplane waiting for them. And who, who greets them, Andrew? Who greets them? Yeah, who greets them from the airplane. It's a famous, it's an SNL thing, Chicago. Oh, it's um, uh,  Dan Aykroyd. Yep, Dan Aykroyd.

This motherfucker just comes out of there and it just starts talking to British dialect. I'm like, yeah, I'm sold. I love this. This is great. , Indiana turns around. And there's this guy pull up and oh, it's, it's the villain from the beginning with his henchmen.

Yeah. And he goes, nice try Lao She. And Indy says that to him and he gets onto the plane and closes the plane door and it says Lao She Air on it. It's getting onto one of his planes, so good, good job. But funny, that's funny stuff that we didn't have in the first movie. Right, it's very clever. Very clever, very fun writing.

Like it's again not pretending to be anything crazy. It's not pretentious and it's just fun to see Dan Aykroyd just do like a Random cameo, especially at that time like because I mean that's st. Thomas ghostbusters. Yeah, it's a peak of his wouldn't say people like Maybe the height of his career. Yeah, I mean  I love Dan Aykroyd though, like I have like a soft spot in my heart for him.

Absolutely. Um, I think he's actually legitimately a good dude. Do you have a hard spot in your heart for him? Six to midnight. So they get on the plane, they think that they've made it away scot free,  Indy's taken , the Antidote for the poison because it was rolling around at some point.

He grabbed it. I can't remember how he grabbed it He grabbed it. I can tell you exactly how I grabbed it It was in it She put it in her in her cleavage and he like went to go get it out and she goes Dr. Jones, I'm just not that kind of girl  Which is a lie because we found out later And then it she drops it in the car He goes to get it but drops his gun in the meantime because he hands her the gun and she goes And he goes, where's my gun?

She's like, I dropped it.  And I broke an nail. And you're like, oh, this is we again. We get who you are. Why did you bring her  ? But leave her. That's how we got it. So he did get it. He drank it, and then we're we're, so we fast forward back on the airplane.  And at that point like the  short round, Willie and Indy are all asleep and the pilots, , get their devilish look in their eye and they eventually  basically jump from the plane. 

They dump the fuel and they get up with their parachutes on and they go and they they open the plane door which causes a slight breeze. And they're going over like  They're going over the mountains in the himalayas. Yeah, the tallest mountain range in the world in nepal. Yes. Yeah, and like which  It's like what 26 some thousand feet or more I mean, that's like you're getting into the atmosphere like lower atmosphere I think and like if you're on a plane and you did that and you opened it up granted those are pressurized It's cold as fuck And like it's really loud.

You're gonna die. Like you're gonna die, like it's not, there's gonna be some suction out of that, especially those planes. Maybe, they won't pressurize, so that's, so if they're not pressurized, but like there would have been, it would have been more than the light fucking breeze. Yeah. Shorty would have like flown out.

He would have been, he would have gone. Like it would have been very apparent, they sleep through them opening the doors, so this is one of the areas where I'm like,  yeah, fuck me. All right. . So they wake up, see that there's no pilots, and the plane is still like, careening. You know, it didn't just immediately do a nosedive or anything, which I don't know anything about like planes and all that.

I know they have autopilot, but I don't think they had them back then, but I don't know. Yeah. I mean, maybe they did. We'll, we'll give them, we'll give them a little, the heydays of aviation. Maybe tied a bungee cord around it.  So they're, the plane is somehow skidding and then they wake up and they, Indy realizes that they're in  Big, big doo doo.

And they took all the, the parachutes with them. Yes. So , there's no parachutes, there's no way this plane is going to crash. It's out of fuel, and he does not know how to fly a plane. So, Andrew, do you remember what kind of plan that they devised? They get like a, the inflatable raft or whatever, the emergency inflatable raft, and just jump. 

Yes, that's it. They just jump and then, they're so close to the top of the mountain that they just gradually are, they're ready. casually fall on the snow below and slide down the mountainside as the plane crashes into the mountain. Yes. Yeah.  And so that's, and that's how they end up in India.  And I want to, I want to segue there real quick.

So how realistic do you think that is? Um, I would say there's some validity to it, but I don't know if it would work like that. So they actually did it. And the shot you see in the movie.  is actually the air, the raft and people coming down. They actually proved that you could do it. They, they tied some dummies that were human weight  and found out when they shoved the raft from a plane, they shoved it from a plane and it had the raft inflate  when it first came out.

And the stuntmen and the people that were filming this were like, there's no way this is going to work. This is so stupid. Spielberg's an idiot.  Got it on the first take. The raft floated down, landed just like that, and cruised off, and so It hit your butt though, wouldn't it?

I mean, the cushion couldn't be that great. I don't think it was, but I'm It doesn't matter, the cushion's not as bad as that. They found out you could survive it. That's what I'm saying, like, if you can survive the fall from that high Yeah, and on a raft, you're not even reaching terminal velocity, so you're just like, , you could technically bounce out of it.

That's why I say when you look at it, you're like, Eh!  Yeah, but like clearly they made clearly at work because it's a shot and it's not cgi They do cut from literally when you see it about to hit the ground They cut really fast and then you see a different shot at a different angle of them Dropping it on and then like scooting it down.

So those are two different shots Like obviously that's not the same shots. They did their own version of mess busters on they did it Yeah, I mean that's super that makes me respect this movie a lot a lot more and then they were like the the guy looked at him the camera is like Did we get it?  Yeah, we're done. 

How many times out of ten do you either die or severely hurt yourself from that scenario? They were a one of one. They were a hundred percenter.  The only way to be. Something like that. Don't they like slide down the mountainside and fly off and, you know, land in like, you know, a river like, I don't know how many feet below?

Yeah, a lot of feet below. A lot? A lot. You're going thousands of feet. Wait, if we're at 20, 000, 20, 000 foot mountain? Maybe something like that. I'd say probably like around 15, but it doesn't matter. That's so freaking steep! Three miles, three miles in the air. Yeah. And like, not in the air, but up, like to go that, to go that quickly down.



They've escaped death a number of times, and it doesn't, it's not gonna stop here, but. I know. And this scene was also meant for Raiders of the Lost Ark, too. No shit. A lot of these scenes, the mine cart, which we get to later, this scene was deleted scenes from Raiders of the Lost Ark. They cut it from the script.

 They wanted to continue on, so they put it in Temple of Doom. That's great, I love that. I love it, it's great. So, yeah, they must have had a lot of ideas in the writing, but I mean, it's Spielberg and Lucas, so. You got a lot of imagination. So they survive that, and now My favorite line is the movie, they get down there, they're floating on the river and And you know, she's like, where are we?

And , Indy's like, we're in India. Like , he just knows we're in India at that point. Yeah. And it's like, oh, what, what, what gave it away? How'd you know? Well, there were no, there was a surveyor. Mindy is a smart guy. So, but. Like when he said, when she goes like, where are we? And he goes, and he takes it and he looks at her and he goes, India.

And she goes, how do you know that? And she, and he like points out that there's Indian. That's right. Yes, of course. But like, but like, but like, here's thing though. So, how do you know they're Indian? Are you judging people based on how they look? And here's where the movie takes its turn. Yeah, this is what happens.

Canceled. Over. Done. That was probably the one scene that people in India saw and they were like, no, no, no, we're not doing this one.  Because I think, I remember the pan, it was to some dude who had like, , shoulder length hair, he had like, eyes sunken in, his mouth was open, and it was just like, oh, that's a nice greeting to India.

, you could have been anywhere. Yeah. , they make their way to the village. They meet the overseer of the village. Who is the same guy they saw , on the  Riverbank.

Riverbank. And he says that he had prayed to one of their gods that Indy would fall out of the sky and save them basically, you know, and I'm paraphrasing a long dialogue here in exposition,  the guy says that the Maharajah. Yeah, stole the  a sacred jewel, rock, kind of diamond from their Sacred stone.

Stone  From their village and now their village is  just riddled with famine and  death and destruction and they need  they say jewel they say stone They say like all kinds of different things and it's a mix of all of it So we'll say stone, but they need the stone back to save their village.

And also he took their kids  Don't forget the kids. Yeah, that was and that's always such the way you said that Chase is very much how it goes in the movie it's like And also the kids are gone and she's like, what? They're like, yeah. The kids, they took the kids. Yeah, they took the kids. But the little fucking, we're more worried about the cows.

But the kids are gone. Cows. Well, they need the cow. We need the cows. And we also need, we need food. So Indy being this tough, like almost anti-hero at a lot of times, he always has like a heart of gold , in these certain situations. So he wants to help the village out. So he is like.  Okay, cool, I'm in this situation anyway.

I was gonna say, what's he gonna do?  He was on his way to, what did he say he was on his way to? He was on his way to New Delhi. New Delhi, and so he was gonna go there. I think it's where he said he was going. I wanna say that's it, and they were like, no, no, no, this castle over here. And I kind of caught, yeah.

And he was like,  Okay. Alright, so they agree. Willie does not want to do this, obviously. Of course. And I kind of wish he'd stayed in the village and helped, but And there's times where they're like, trying to feed her like, sacred meals, and she's like, no, I'm not eating that shit. And he was like, he's like, eat that.

You're disrespecting them and embarrassing me. I thought that was a great line.  Um Yeah, please. So eventually they pack up and, they're on the move to this castle to try to see if they can find the stone and children, generally just children.  We're glossing over a lot here because a lot kind of happens in transit and  there's a lot of really cool landscapes that they go over and cool animals are riding elephants the whole time. There's a really funny scene of them in the jungle.  So they do this like time lapse like I mean I kind of sped up the exposition.

It is And and nothing happens that you need to know about other than that now they're traversing the jungle to get to this castle and There's a scene with short round Indy and Willie where they're camping at night There's just a lot of there's a lot of funny stuff that happens between you've learned a lot of exposition About short, round, and by a lot, I mean enough for this movie and that he was like, he was found pickpocketing, indie.

Yes. And didn't have any parents. 'cause his, his parents died in the, I think this was when the Chinese were fucking up all of Southeast Asia and Asia. Yeah. Um, or wait, the Japanese, it was Japanese. Japanese that were doing Japanese. The Chinese, because this would've been  thirties. Yeah, thirties. So this, right, this would've been before the bombing Beijing.

So that was definitely Japan. And they died in. Bombing somewhere and I think China. I don't remember exactly I think Beijing Beijing Yeah, something like that. And then we find out  there's some actual real world like shit in there And you know This whole franchise is known for hitting Nazis and it  gets into World War two in a different way there Which I thought was always a little bit Interesting.

Yeah, and so they in that's where you've learned that they basically he's been like his little tag along since then and just  he is a kid of the streets. So he's learned all these things  Things with Indy on how to like, haul our cars and do random weird shit. Random weird shit.  But he's always come through for Indy.

  The funny scene too is , so Willie's , struggling cause it is a jungle. And she's struggling to like, even be comfortable there. She's like, freaking out. She has the elephant that they rode there. kept messing with her at one point. , there's actually, , there's a scene where she gets wet basically because the elephant, I think, threw her off into the water.

And so she's like trying to air dry her clothes at the campsite. And while they were shooting it, the elephant actually ate her clothes.  That's perfect. I hope they laughed about that. That's hilarious. 

That's why you never really see her like air drying it like completely because I think the wardrobe's completely different because the elephant had to eat. That's fucking great. That's really fucking cool. Yeah, so they, they used real elephants. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They used a lot of all the animal, not all, a lot of the animals.

are very much real. , I think PETA would have a hard time watching this one. ,  They have a hard time watching most of this stuff we watch. PETA can't even watch a dog food commercial without getting upset. No, so they need to fuck themselves.  Fast forward back to the PALs, we get there.

 They find some voodoo y stuff on the way there. Some weird, spooky, voodoo, spooky things. , and they get to this castle.  And he starts snooping around. He starts asking questions. And they go to  , a feast, a banquet. And, and he's like a guest of honor, too. And he also runs into some British soldiers who are, I mean, the British army was always involved in India, and Yeah, always.

Always. , they run into some British soldiers, and they're all like guests of honor, and this like classy, Beautiful temple and he gets like really new clothes So she's like dressed like a princess and now she's like starting to come around as like, oh my god Like I love this  who could I marry so I stay here like it's daily is her first thought she's thinking about marrying the the child the child  She really wants to get in it, you know?

She's trying. She's thirsty as fuck. She doesn't know it's a child yet, but she's like, Who's the, who's the, , the prince, the emperor? Whoever it was, and she was like, Does he have a wife? Has he taken a wife yet? And they were like, Oh, not yet. And she was like, Oh, he just hasn't met the right person yet.

He just hasn't, well maybe it's because he hasn't found the right one. Yeah, it's not you. The nasty ass food, and then she completely changes her. Yeah.  I remember this scene vividly as a kid. I don't know, like, It was gross. It is a, it is a gross kind of dark scene, and I think those, those type of scenes, , stick out with you as a child when you watch movies like this.

 The weirdest part was when they cut open the big snake to eat the smaller snakes inside. Yeah, which is not how that works. And those were also not snakes, those were eels, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think, I thought so too at the sound.  And it's just, and they were crawling all over the table, there was no like I don't think snakes are viviparous.

, I don't think they give birth to live young. No. I think they're, I think they're, yeah, they're oviparous,  I think. But, regardless, they have that as the, I guess that was the appetizer, was like, eelsnakes.  And then, then they ate, what else did they eat? They had the eyes. Then they had the What were the eyes from?

It was in the soup. It was in the soup. She asked for soup. Yes. And it was just eyes. Was it an emperor beetle?  Oh, the beetle, when they take the beetle upside down, he goes  They had the beetles, the eyeballs, the monkey brain, chilled monkey brains. And so it's like very savage, like food.   This part of the movie is where  the cultural insensitivity is probably kicking in.

Yeah. I don't think I've ever been to an Indian restaurant with chilled monkey brains on the menu or bugs or snakes. Those are just stereotypes. Yeah. Eastern culture. And me and Blair were watching this and I was like, you know, I feel like that , if you wanted to play ball with this and try to  rationalize it, that's stuff that tribes are eating.

 This is a fancy ass temple, , they're gonna have access to the fancier garnishes and food and vegetables and stuff. They're not gonna be eating monkey brains. And so it was like, that was where I was like, okay. All right, you really are trying to hammer a stereotype.

Yeah, we are definitely trying. And by trying you are just like blowing the door down. Yes, but it also sets the mood because you know something isn't right. It makes you uncomfortable. Makes you uncomfortable, which is what they're going for. Yeah, you are very uncomfortable with it, and you know, like, something's about to happen.

Indy ends up trying to talk to, uh, one of the, I guess the host? He's part of the political party there, but he talks to the host and he's like,  What about this stone and these children? He's like,   Indiana starts talking to, I don't remember his name, but he's like one of the ministers that helps the Maharaja, and  they're talking about the history of Pancak Palace, and Indy goes, oh, you know, I heard about the thuggy cult back in the day, and they were into brutal ritual sacrifices, human sacrifices, in fact, and something about children. 

Also in, uh, there's a bunch of missing children. Have you seen these children? Pulls up milk bottles.  And, and slowly but surely he's getting like the I don't know what he's introduced as. I'm gonna call him a host because I don't have another word for him. But he's like slowly getting more and more offended with the questioning. He's getting agitated.

He's like, there's nothing happening here. Nothing. Nothing. And then the Maha Raja goes, I have heard the stories of the Thuggy Cult and I thought it was all  I wanted that I wanted that kid to eat a shoe. It was so, he was getting so old, so quick, couldn't listen to that voice anymore, even when I was a kid.

 How are you the leader of, how are you the leader of anything other than Allego set? That's a  he basically says Hey, I know about the Thuggy Cult, and if I found out about the Thuggy Cult, I would make sure that they don't exist here anymore.  And then they, everybody resumes and they start laughing and dancing great. Ha ha ha. Yeah, and then, so now they all retire to their rooms.

Yes.  At this point,  I'm not that type of girl, Andy. She turns out to be that kind of girl. The exact type of girl. So, Willie and Andy, the whole movie, have just been kind of at each other's throats in a way. There's some sexual tension there. There's a lot of sexual tension. There's some sexual tension, but it's like, he's a big brute, and she's like, she's a damsel in distress.

Sensitive girl.  Yeah, I'm like an idiot. I'm like,  they obviously are not a good match at all. No, but then all of a sudden they just like, go for it. Like they just start like, because he brings her fruit, he brings her fruit. There's just something to eat. What key to a woman's heart is through her stomach.

Womp, womp, womp, feed, feed them,  feed them. Oh my God. . He brings her the fruit and then they just start hardcore flirting and then all of a sudden just insult each other. And then , They have this standoff moment where Indy's like, I'm gonna go to my room and you'll show up at my room in five minutes.

And she's like, no, you'll be back in five minutes for me. And it's like, why don't you guys just like, cut the tension, fuck, just do it right there. So it's like,  And then, so he leaves, goes back to his room, and she stays in hers, and they both simultaneously grab a old clock and stare at it for five minutes to see who's gonna cave first, like a, a game of sexual chicken.

 , and then in Endy's room, a guy shows up out of the corner of a henchman, short round, sleeping.  And, um,  the henchman ends up putting, , I guess like a rope around his neck. He's trying to like basically choke him out and kill him. Yep. And so this is, I'm glad you, I'm glad we didn't skip over this.

It's probably my favorite shot of the whole movie where you don't, there's like all the, there's a mural on the back wall of all these like different men and women, and they're all doing different things in this mural and. Indy like is like, I can't believe it. She's not coming. She's not coming and he turns around as they're panning across this room and one of the murals just  Opens up and then just comes out and I was like, holy shit.

That's first of all, it's a good shot as a kid That's scared the shit out of me I was like, I didn't see where the fuck that guy came from. He just out of the shadows like that He blended in. He blended in very well. They did a very good job blending him in  Having said that I'm pretty sure they did brownface for this Yeah, I think there were a couple, a couple characters they didn't remember.

I think this is one of the same guys that they use later on this movie. I also think he might have been in Raiders 2. Okay. Stuntman, I think. I, I would not be surprised. I kind of thought so of the, the host, the guy that I, I thought. I was going to say that. Yeah, but I didn't want to like, jump into it and I couldn't really find anything on it.

There's no proof, but it's  Questionable to the eye. , but they shoot it so dark too in the room because it is at night and this candle lit. .  Like, hey can we make a movie to get banned in India? And I think this is like their They put money on it. Their, their pride and joy here.

So, eventually, she's like,  He's not coming and she gets mad and she's upset and then he's getting choked out in the other room. He's dying. And then close to death.  He had him, he took out his whip, got it around the guy's neck and he threw the whip up in the fan. And the fan Just brutal. Yeah. Dark. A pretty badass. And he was just swinging around. The guy swinging around and they show meanwhile, short, round goes, uh,  and here's dead body.

, and he's probably seen something like that. Absolutely. In this like whip hanging that they do. They usually like in those scenes they show the shadow of the body on the wall Just so they don't show it. No, they they show the whole fucking body like zoom in shot of the body hanging several rotations And then  he runs into her room and she thinks he's just like pent up with sexual aggression She's like don't hurt me and be gentle with me indy and he's like just looking around her room And she's  confused at this point and then  He finds a statue over in the corner of a look kind of like a mermaid like a lady I don't remember what it was It's just a statue of a woman with a big bust and he he's like he feels air coming from there He has a candle up to it.

He's like, oh You're like, wow, how smart Indy and then he goes over and he's like trying to figure out how to push on it And he goes, oh the boobs and he holds the boobs and he pushes in and she goes  And it's like, she's like, no, Indy, right here, right here. No, but like right here. And he's, and he pushes it and opens up this, that like basically a cavern and , into a temple.

And that's  what he was trying to find. Cause he was like trying to find the hidden door that the assassin came through. And so now, , speeding along here. So this leads them into , the deep, dark tunnel.  depths of the temple.  Before they get there, they have many trials and tribulations.

Many, and Indy almost, Indy and Shorin almost died a couple times. Oh, Freedom almost died, I'm pretty sure.  And that's where I was going to lead to, so right as they're leading through, Willie stayed in the room  cause he told her to stay back as they like went further and short round just kept  stepping on shit and moving shit.

He's like, don't touch anything. I didn't, I didn't listen to you. I didn't touch anything. And so they end up in this like room that's basically collapsing on them with spikes. Yeah, spike, like they get into this room and short round activates something cause he stands against the wall which India tells him to do.

It's a trap room. He's like, I did what you told me to do. I did what you told me to do. So they're having this whole scene. He's calling for Willie to come in to help them, and she's like, I can't, there's just too much stuff. And, and at the beginning of this scene too, I was like, this room is collapsing quick.

Might wanna get out. You need to do something quick. She's trying to get through the tunnel to, to save them. . She goes through the bugs and like, , all that shit to get there.

And, basically, she has to put her hand into a, a hole and turn the release lever. And it's full of like, bugs and shit. Beals and just all sorts of filth. So Indy like, forces her to do that, so he, she, And she was hesitant! Yeah, and she, but she did it, and saves them right at the last second, basically.  She goes into the room, and then they are trying to get out, and then she activates the fucking thing again.

So now nobody can help them, so they have to hustle out really quick, and then Indy does the whole, Oh, I dropped my hat! I got my hat! Yeah, before the wall crushes my arm. His hand should have been completely smashed. Just so mangled. So this whole scene  is one of Steven Spielberg's favorite scenes of all time.

Really? I do enjoy that scene quite a bit. He said he just, he enjoyed the comedic element of  we went through all this shit of her saving them, and then she just reactivates it instantly.   He does say ,  the vision of Indy grabbing his hat is the ultimate , never leave home without it for him.

They get out of there and they stumble upon this ritual cult happening in the Temple of Doom. Which they don't call it that, but that's what it is.

 It's on the box art. , It's fucked up. , it's really fucked up. They have, they have the dude in , the fucking like man cage. Om nom shabai, om nom shabai, om nom shabai. And,  , his body's like an X shaped and  it flips and turns and , it's over like a fiery pit of lava.

And then basically they found them doing the real, I guess the real leader, the real cult leader, the thuggy cult leader. Does he have a name? He does, but I can't remember his name. Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't remember, like, and the names were flying at this point. Mulderom. Yep. And , he was doing this,  human sacrifice at this point.

Where , he reaches his hands. I, I had to turn away as a child, I couldn't watch. He goes inside his chest, which, again, like, let's just, let's just do it. We did it before. In no world, in no world that we live in or inhabit would that ever happen. No. There's no way. But we're suspending our beliefs here.

Absolutely. There's some kind of witchcraft involved. They stumbled upon some culty  temple in the middle of nowhere in India, like, you know. Just terrifying. That's terrifying to think about. I still believe that way more than I believe that Godzilla could hide in the Hudson River. Jesus Christ. Thank you for bringing that up. 

Oh my god. I don't know if they could burrow underneath the entire fucking city. He reaches in, he takes the heart out, and , the skin like, reconvenes and , regrows. Yeah, cause they're using a lot of like, black magic,  which, witchcraft, which is Haitian.  Is that really Indian? , there's a lot of , influence from what I understand from like, the voodoo kind of side of things and like the,  what is it, Santeria, 

 The Caribbean was such a melting pot, a forced melting pot, but a melting pot nonetheless of like, African, Asian, French, some French, ,  just the places that they got, that they, Recruited people from aka enslaved people and made them do things were from all over like the traded world Especially the spice trade with India.

Yeah, all that stuff So there's  a lot of those come to a confluence there a lot of different beliefs that make different other beliefs From there and like so I do think that there's probably something with it. Probably not how this movie portrays it. What?  Not the voodoo doll,  yeah, that was primarily what I'm talking about and so like  I know like there's a form of witchcraft in a lot of cultures like I know Celtic, you know the Wiccan Yeah, like there is a lot of like stuff from that, you know It is all handed down from generation no matter culture to culture.

It's just different in each culture  But they just kind of go out of nowhere with that, , and they burn this guy alive and his heart burns and in , , the leader's. Hands. Hands, yeah. Yeah. And, which is strange. Why don't I just burn it with, I don't,  part of it symbolic. They got the show it to the people and they were like,  oh, so, and 

nd sees that they're horrified. I'm horrified as a child. I am not, I'm not watching at that point.  So he goes, he goes off to explore something.  And that something is, if it turns out to be, that's where all the kids went. They're enslaved, mining away, with black lung.

 As they're doing the ritual, he's putting three stones in this giant skull, and it's lighting up the nose and the two eyes. And so we find out , I think through exposition at different points, but basically they're looking for the five stones to reunite all the power of the ancient world.

And they're having all these kids just mine for these stones and try to find them. And they're  succeeding because they have three of them. They stole one of them. And then the other two they found, I think he said later they found . He does grab one of those stones, naturally grabs one of the stone, the stone, those stones.

Or one of the stones. One of the stones. He grabs one of them right the nose. He gets the, , the rest of 'em later, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. But he grabs the nose and then he just kind of is like, yeah, I'll take this. So then he's, so then he goes through and then that's when he finds the kids and everything, and he comes back up to the, , to the place where they're all perched up, landing spot, whatever you wanna call it.

Yeah. Whatever that is. And he, and they all convened. They're like, right, this is what we're gonna do next. And they turn around and . There's all these henchmen waiting around with knives.

And, , they get caught. They get caught. Do they have knives or do they have like the, the sitar or whatever? The sitar is a It's a guitar. What's the, what's the, um I know what you're talking about. They had a bunch of sitars. It's a guitar. It's a sword. It's a hand sword. No, it's, those are later. Those, the ones that they have are the ones that are right here.

And they pretty, they're just like large DERs. I'm sorry, I want to go back to the Centar comment. So all I think is they were caught by like a polka band,  .   So they get caught and each of them has to go through their own trial.  Willie just gets, she's just sectioned off. Who knows what's happening to Willie, poor girl. I mean, damn. But we do get to see Indy's and Short Round's point of view and they're both being held in a cage where all these kids are.

  And they're like, I, I prayed to Shiva. I prayed to Shiva to let me die. But he will not let me die.

And I'm like, fuck me, what has to be so bad that you gotta kill yourself? Damn. And he's like, they're gonna make you drink the juice. I don't remember what they say, but it's essentially this like, this liquid, this black liquid that just, probably just poison. It's probably something that just, corrodes  the insides,  hypnotizes you in some way.

But Indy gets taken away from Shortground and Shortground is just gonna, he's gonna be mining for the rest of his life now.  And he, poor kid, um, But his Yankees hat on the entire time. Yeah, his Yankees hat. Yeah, they didn't confiscate that. He can play Ode to Joe DiMaggio for that entire time.  Aw, shoeless Jew.

 Indy, he gets taken away, and they're trying to get him to drink this juice so he can be on their side is the best way I can describe that.  In a short way, concise way. , he refuses to drink it, they beat the shit out of him, and they whip the kid, and he's like, Stop whippin the kid!

Well, then drink it! Alright, fine, but I'm not gonna drink it! And then they just eventually hold his nose open, crank his mouth open, and they just force him this liquid. And then he's left in this room with all these candles, naturally. , and all these candles are right around him, so as soon as he moves a muscle, he knocks candles and wax over.

So that's supposed to be like, oh my gosh, he's really going through it right now. He's having some kind of like, reaction to this drug they gave him. And  What, do they go right to the, the ceremony after that? I think they go right to the ceremony. Yeah. And then they'll be like, drop him into the pits.

That's where they will. So that body is spinning in that little cage or whatever. , I think what happens then is , they want Indy to do what the guy did to the, to the sacrifice seed to, to Willie.

 They bring Willie out and they put her in that, in the, the metal array. And then she's having this whole thing of like, Indy, don't you know it's me? It's me, it's Willie. That's right. We've had this life together in children and we've lived together for years. These three days. These three days have meant the world to me over the course of six hours.

I've really grown to like you. . I just, we just need to fuck. ,  But she's put in this, this, this, this, this  Metal crate that they put this other guy in. It's like a cage. It's like a pancake cage or something. You would toast it.

That's your way to put it. Yeah. Like it, because it's very flat. It's very flat. It's very flat. It's very claustrophobic. It'd be very claustrophobic as a kid. And they hook her in there and he's gonna do the whole, um, rora  and try to get her heart out of her chest. And she just like isn't like saying the words too.

Yeah, he, he's a  and he's saying that the whole time. And, , she spits on him and he goes,  closes the thing, puts her up, hoists her over, and then just starts lowering her in. But that's when we,  long story short, Short Round gets out of his chains , and gets a pickaxe and just starts going to town.

And he's got, he had some fucking moves. He was like doing spin kicks and shit and like fucking people up and I was like, damn, that's like. I'm like, that's, I wanna be like that. Like I want to, like, as a kid, fuck me. I want to, I wanna fuck shit up like that. I wanna be like that. Now I could do that.  Put on a fucking clinic.

Rolls the ankle.  .  Short round saves a day. And this, I think in this whole movie, he's the one that actually saves everybody. Yeah. So he goes out and Indy is still in this other world and . He gets through, breaks through the lines of all these 250 pound henchmen.

And just gets over to Indy and goes, Indy, I love you, I'm sorry. And  he gets him with a torch. And that, the fire and the pain must have really woken him up. Because he goes, Oh, I'm sorry kid, I love you. After beating the shit out of everybody and tricking everybody, he tricks them and goes like, Kid, it's me. 

Don't worry, it's me. But he turns around and he's like, I'm actually who you think I am. To all the fucking villains. Then he starts all this ruckus. They start fighting. There's a whole thing to try to get Willie out, but it keeps on lowering her instead. Yeah. To the point where she is like seven inches.

She would start to melt. , she would start to burn. You would have third degree burns, right? Easily. There's no way you wouldn't be able to. Okay, we'll gloss over that. She was just wearing sunscreen. Also, where's the lava coming from exactly? Is that just so far, , deep into the earth? I doubt it.

I doubt it. But like, we can go with that. Are there active volcanoes in India? I don't think, I don't know, in India? Maybe, maybe one. Maybe one, but it's definitely in a hot area. They shipped this one in. They did. They brought it in for the movie. Yeah, no, this cult has a lot of money. They really needed the lava for the aesthetic.

They And to kill people. Yeah, we lost a bunch of children mining this volcano. , she doesn't get quite put in. They, he wins the day. He, get, he tries to get more on the, the villain, but he just does this really creepy, like, I'm okay, I'm, I, ha ha, you caught me. And then the floor , literally eats him.

He goes, hee hee hee. And he like, Just like that. It's, it's pretty, I know we're, we're joking, but like, it's not, it's not that far off. No, it's not. It's pretty, pretty like, maniacal. He just kind of like, cackles, , like a witch man. , , it's a very, , live and let die moment.  If you've ever seen that James, that wonderful James Bond movie.

 The only good Roger Moore. Great, great Paul McCartney song too. A great Paul McCartney song. But, um, at this point, ,  is this when we go to I think the, he saves the children at this point. He starts to save the children. Don't we have , the mind chase? Mind Chase, which is such a great fucking city.

We're gonna have to condense this. So I think the most important scene out of all of the, it's two things. We'll gloss over him going into rescue the children, because a lot happens there. , is that before or after the mine? No, this is all like in, this is all in like 15 minutes in. It's just very condensed, a lot of really good action.

We'd be here all night talking about it, but long story short, the score in this movie, John Williams, again, it's a fucking home run, and there's this whole like theme music To him going in to save the children. And he hit me the fuck up when I was a kid. I was so fucking hype for that shit. Cause he had that one on one with that big dude, right?

Yes. At this point.  To save the guy that was like, 7 foot 8. The guy that was like, guarding the children. Yep. And that's the guy from, , Raiders of the Lost Ark. They end up having this fist fight. And Indy eventually kills him by pushing him into like this. He meets a very timely death. Horrible.

Horrifying. Horrifying. Also , the way that they show that is , he gets underneath and he just disappears. And then all of a sudden the other side of , this rolling cylinder, there's just a streak of blood. Like a shit stain of blood  . It's, I'm like, I don't, I don't know if it, I don't know if it looked like jelly.

I think there'd be a lot of other stuff  in there. Pretty, it worked. Horrifying did worked though. As a kid you're not about that fucking scary shit. Terrifying. And so then that's when he. Saves the children. They get in the mine cart because they're racing to get out of , this temple.

They have the stone. , I think they have all three stones. I think so. I think because he put them in his, his satchel. He does have all of them, yeah. . It's a great fucking scene. It's a great scene. It's one that you should go watch.

It words can't do it justice, but they, it's like out of a cartoon, it's like you're watching Scooby do it. Really? You I was about to say, it looks, it sound, it looks and sounds like Scooby Doo. It's everything you become, but they personify and make it real. It's believable and , it's not bullshit because it's not fucking CGII mean,  a lot of, , it's movie magic for sure.

And there might be a lot of stop. I think there's a lot of stop motion in  that actually made it into the movie, . A lot of this is just to scale models, , really good lighting, really good effects,  I know a lot of people, like, especially the kids these days, would probably say it's pretty unrealistic, but , if you grow up on, um, things like Scooby Doo, things like, , the Flintstones, and , Hanna Barbera kind of stuff,  this isn't too far fetched.

, that whole mine scene was one of the  One of the quintessential moments in this movie, and I'm interested, I'm very interested that they didn't use it for Raiders, but they used it for this, and it works out much better in this movie than I think it would ever fit into Raiders. So I applaud this scene, it was very well done.

They get out, they essentially make it through the whole mine. , unscathed for the most part except for Indy's poor foot that he has to use to stop the cart. Yeah, , and then he goes water water water and  which is a very clever line It's a lot that happens with one line in two sentences He's water water water and he's trying to find water and he gets it in a little  bucket and he goes oh And then all of a sudden he's looking up and he goes water water And there's the giant thing of water from right before then when  They flooded the chambers to try to weed them out, the henchmen had.

As a kid, I thought that was really funny. And I also, to this day, think that's probably one of the best bits of writing. You do so much with such a small line. And it just, it's not pretentious. It's not, it's just, it's just good. It's good writing. Yeah. You don't need to say a lot.  They narrowly escaped death.

They narrowly escaped the water.  They get out of a hole and they both take sides. , they're shit all up on this mountain.  It's nothing between you and air and opportunity. And so they're like high up there avoiding the water shooting through. , and eventually they find and crawl up to , this suspension bridge.

It's a long ass ropey  suspension bridge. Doesn't look that old. No, it also, it also until a short round almost falls through. Yes. This looks like a very real thing that they made for this movie. For sure. They definitely set. It was a very, a very real suspension bridge.  So they're basically running across trying to get to  the other side of this, I guess,  you know, area, this island.

And then they get cornered, both ends. One by the leader of the, the thuggy cult and the others, like a bunch of henchmen. So they're trapped in the middle of this, this. Either side. Precarious  suspension bridge, .  The jig is up, give us the stones, uh, and then Indy gets this  brilliant idea.

So brilliant. This is the one that really, really got me,  he's like, short round, and he's like, and you see Indy like, he says something in Cantonese or Mandarin or something, and then he puts his leg under a rope,  he ties his leg around a rope. And, that is, there's his hand too?

, he has his arm up with the, cause he has a sword. And he's like, so he ties, and so he ties his like, just basically his leg. Short round ties his arm, , tells Willy to hold on, who just grabs a rope. And I'm like,  this is not gonna work.   Starts hacking at like the main line.

He hacks at the bridge, And he's like, And the bridge just cuts in half. Like with one falls, isn't it? With one, isn't it With one strike? No, he does it a couple times. He hits it like two or three times. He hit it two or three times. , but it's just one side. It's not both sides, just one side of the line.

And then there's also the underneath part two. Yeah. That's all connected with rope, but, and it falls in sections and shit. Halfs just, yeah, just  falls down perfectly. All the henchmen are dead. And brutally, my guy, do you see bodies hitting stone and cliff? And there are crocodiles down below, in the water.

Which are instant, they're instantly eaten. They're, immediately, there's some hungry fuckers down there. , . , their side of the bridge, , hugs the wall. , they're there, , holding on for dear life.  The leader, , confronts Indicus, he's,  right there.

And, and, and. And he, , fumbles the stones or something like that. He starts, no, he starts, the guy tries to do the heart thing on him and he goes, nah, nah.  He got his hand on the stones, like in the back, in his satchel. And he starts saying this prayer, this incantation or something, this chant.

And  the stones start generating heat and lighting up. And then they start melting through the bag. And Molaram's like, HOO! HOO! And he tries to catch one and it burns his hand. And then some I think Indy kicks him off or something. He just he just tumbles. But then he loses like three stones with him.

Yep. But he saves he saves the one. He saves the one. And then as he's falling, he hits the cliff, bounces off the cliff, hits an alligator, he gets eaten. So it's like brutal. Brutal. Brutal death. Deserved. . He's a piece of shit. It was like Alan Rickman's death in Die Hard. It was like, you're like, Oh my god.

Um, I love it. So, he's out of the picture, they're able to  climb up, thanks to the help of the children, right? The children that they saved, weren't they like, No, no, no, no, it was uh, the British Army. Yeah. Oh yeah. Remember, they shoot, they come in and they start shooting. The Brits. Same thing. Yeah, there was a scene, too, where Indy was hanging onto the suspension bridge, trying to get up. , Short Round and Willie had made their way kind of up, and he was hanging, and , this whole henchman army was shooting bows and arrows.

And not a single one hit. Yeah. And I was like, at this point you all just need to jump in the water if you're that bad, the storm troopers, and they don't get just one round of arrows in. They like shoot volley volleys of arrows going at them 

it's like the battle of Thermopylae or something like and they but they can't hit a goddamn thing  Like so they all deserve to get shot. It wouldn't be fun if they hit anything, , we wouldn't get the great Oh, I would love like I think you could have added some suspension No, no pun intended here when if one arrow just like went through his leg or something and then you have  And then he takes the arrow out and just repeatedly prison stabs Molaram.

 Then after the British save them, . They save the children, the children return, Indy returns with the stone.

They put the stone , back in its rightful place and all is right with the world. And scene. And scene.  That's the Temple of Doom. Yeah, we glossed over some good part, but that's why you should watch it. Yeah, it's definitely one that , I would feel comfortable saying you should just go watch it because we missed a lot and we tried to hit the good stuff, but there's, there's so much, there's just so much that we missed that you will, you will catch up on.

 And that's the thing is , this is a two hour movie.  We can't do some of it justice. We try to hit the high points of the stuff that we hate, the stuff that we really like. Stuff in the middle kind of falls in between, but that's why you go watch it. And sometimes, come watch it with us.

 Overall, I really enjoyed my time with it. I haven't seen it in a while. I, and, we've all watched it as adults, I think. I think we kinda knew where this one was going. , , I was just gonna wrap this up with some trivia.

, you guys know where Indiana Jones name comes from? It's George Lucas dog. That's also where short round comes from. Um, What, and that's where Willie comes from. Willie is a Steven Spielberg's dog.  Short Round is a dog too. Short, round is a dog from I think the one of the, , producers.  

So, Indiana was Lucas dog, and then Willie and Short Round were Spielberg's dogs? Willie was Spielberg's dog, and Short Round, I think, was a producer's dog. . Would you ever name a dog Short Round? No, I would not. Because it's named, I didn't, no. It has to be a, , it has to be a weenie dog.

Maybe a cat. Maybe.    It makes me want to see if the other movies, the characters are named after dogs as well. Maybe. That'd be interesting. , , I think it's time for the moment that everybody's been waiting for. Especially like, they're probably waiting to hear this moment before they eat Thanksgiving dinner, or lunch, or wherever.

Before they dig in. Yeah, before they dig in. They've been waiting for this moment. So Kyle, , does it hold up? Yes. It does. Andrew, does it hold up?  Yeah, I'm gonna say yes, but I'm also gonna say  in a way Cuz I do think that we have to preface this by saying this is still a movie of its time The way that they handle Indian culture is There's a lot to be desired Yeah, and it's and that's the reason they got banned at one point from India and if India you At one point stands up and says hey, this is culturally offensive then, you know, yeah, it's culturally offensive But time does heal all wounds time as this movie progresses in age the better it gets Yeah, I think this is one of those movies again.

You watch it with the lens of this is a product of its time  it's really good in a lot of aspects of it It still has its moments where you're like, oh, but at the same time I think  You know, you can't put all those movies in those, those categories of I'll never watch. If, if you say I'll never watch this movie again because it does something offensive, then you're not watching a lot of movies.



I think if we all understand that that's not what that culture is like, And we all understand that, like, going into it, like, it's offensive. And also that we, like, that we respect that culture by realizing that.  I think that's a little bit more effective than just completely banning that kind of stuff.

Because then you don't understand, you can't see examples of, well, this was kind of meant with a good intention. , I don't want to say a good intention, but meant to, not to be offensive, but wound up being offensive. Versus, this is supposed to be offensive, it is offensive. How do you delineate that, and how do you find other examples if you don't have them out there and you're not watching them to learn from the mistakes?

I say it does hold up, but there's part, like, I mean, there's written characters, there's situations that do not hold up in this movie. I am firm on that one. But I think overall the movie does hold up. I think it is, if you remember it from your childhood, you'll have fun going down that road. 

The way it's shot is, I mean, you just can't beat the way that a Lucas or Spielberg film is shot, especially Spielberg, the way he sets things up, the Golden Age versions of it, they're using real sets, they're using practical effects, even if you don't watch the movie for the plot, and you kill all that off, and you just watch the movie for how it's shot, it is a great time, and it will always hold up that way.

  I'm curious, Andrew.  Where does this movie stand today on IMDb?  Well, yes, but I want to go ahead and give our scores, if that's cool, real quickly, and then I'll tell you what IMDb has to say. You give your score first. Okay, I'm 8. 1. Wow, that's pretty lofty. Okay. Yeah. What about you? , I was gonna say 7. 1, 7 ish.

Like, that, around that range. I think that's Mm hmm. I think, because there's no way, it's not as good as Raiders, I mean, it's not even, really, there's not a whole lot that's close to Raiders, but like, you know, other than being another classic movie,  and that's like a movie that I would give like a late 8. 7 to 9 on, so it's like, where do I stand on it, it's like,  this film kind of lost me in some parts, too.

So it wasn't like it carried my attention all the way through, but I enjoyed it enough to say hey This is a 7 1 which for me that would be pretty solid. It's still pretty solid. It's a solid score. It's okay to be wrong about things though, Chase. We don't have to deal with this anymore. Set him straight, Kyle.

, I was gonna say I think I always teeter between like an 8 and an 8 3 on this one So I'll be, I'll be generous and give it like an 8, 8 2. Yeah. , 

,  This is Indiana Jones, but I don't see this as a, I see this as a standalone Indiana Jones movie. I know it's supposed to be , in the trilogy. And  the, and the, it's a deviation, but   it's not like Raiders in Last Crusade, like at all.

, they're all kind of their own standalone because they were all made to be like their own James Bond films. Yeah. Where you can watch them all separately. You don't have to follow 'em in order. Yes. And they do, but they do have, , similar characters where , you're gonna see the same characters in the first one, and then the third one, the middle one, you don't, the only person you see is Indiana.

Yeah. And  there are similar characters like Marcus Brody. And Sala that are in Raiders and in Last Crusade. But this one to me is just like its own thing. And because of that, I do think that that's why I would also give this a higher score than I normally would for something like this that's not even necessarily with, I don't want to call it the brand that sounds really shitty, but like, you know what I'm saying?

Like , it's still Indiana Jones, but , it's definitely different enough to be worthy of its own moniker. And that's why I think Temple of Doom, like I don't compare it to the other two because I think it's that different than the other ones, even though it's not, but to me it is. , again, why I'm going to leave it with an 8 3, I think, overall.

Yeah, I think that's fair. , Andrew, , what are we looking at with IMDB 7.5. Wow. Okay. That's, that's higher than I thought they were gonna give it. I thought it was gonna be like a six. I was actually surprised when I saw it. I thought it would be like 7, 8, 7 9 mm-Hmm. if I'm being honest, but I'm a little biased.

 For shits and giggles. What did they give Raiders?  Eight four. That makes sense. Or eight one, which if you cross into the IMDB eight category, you're. Yeah,  you're hittin gold. Let's look, , I think Raiders is 8 4. Anything over 7 in IMDB is considered, hey, this is a must watch title.

Raiders is 8 4, and then Last Crusade I think is 8 1. That makes sense. , I would put those as equals. Nope, 8 2.  Okay, , that's pretty close. Yeah, , that's, , pushing a decimal point there. I need to watch Last Crusade. Last Crusade. I haven't seen it. Last Crusade is my favorite. Very good.

I haven't seen it since I was a kid. Final few scenes. That'll get you. When they're in the Petra, like, oh, I just. That's so good. It's incredible. The city, what is that? The city of Petra? Yeah, in Jordan. So. Yeah, , there are so many parts of that that just still work today, that , you're not going to have a time like you did with this one, even parts of Raiders.

It's just very real. And also just Sean Connery.  Sean Connery makes it, makes it well, there you go. While you're sitting there eating your Thanksgiving food and bring out the old rabbit ears, turn on the Indiana Jones original trilogy and watch all of them. All of them. All of them, because it seems like they all hold up.

. So get out your monkey brains for your, your Thanksgiving meal, . Happy cranberry. Everybody eat your juice.  So happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Thanks for listening to hold up.  The show where we dive deep inside your childhood nostalgia, pull the movies from your past out today, we pulled Temple of Doom out from your past.

Found out it holds up. So I'm gonna put it right there in your dressing. Watch it this holiday season and we hope everyone has a happy holiday. Except for Andrew, he doesn't like you