Hello everyone out there in podcast land welcome to hold up the podcast where we dive deep into your childhood Nostalgia pull the movies from your past out and see if they truly and possibly will hold up I'm hold up today with Kyle and Andrew. 

What's going on? The tension was palpable  that was good  I was waiting you to seize the moment. I always seize the carpe diem  I always go first you do daddy. Yeah  I have the past few weeks said your name first. Yeah. You have. I was waiting for you to take the lead there just cause I, I know you, I know.

I'm a follower , You are sheep. Yeah. You are sheep. Yep. And  I'm your shepherd.  Damn right. Well Kyle, describe your energy level for us today. So, energy level today. , When you're just you're sleeping at night and your 80 pound German Shepherd has decided to lay his head in the pillow next to you like he's a person sleeping and he just  looks at you and goes 

 That's the energy today it's you know, it's cute but I didn't need it It sounded cute.  I was gonna say that's  one of your best like energy level It's getting up there. We're like climbing a ladder. We're getting there. A very tall 16 foot ladder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with nobody spotting.

And it's a lean to. It's not even a tent ladder. About to fall off putting the Christmas lights on.  Ayyy. Ayyy. Nice. Good reference. We'll get there one day. Yeah.  Today we watched Tommy Boy. Mm hmm. I did watch it today, actually. No. What time?  This morning? No, this morning. Mid morning, I was sleeping for a long time.

So that was good. But then I popped it on my phone finally got you to text us back too.  That was fun I appreciated that. I had time to text you back because I wasn't coaching a class. He was watching Tommy boy.  I keep that time religiously Separated  Tommy boy time  this is a big one from my past because I remember we watched this one a lot growing up We had this one on  hold for it kids DVD.

Yeah.  This is one of the first DVDs we had when we started transitioning over from the old VHS player that kicked the bucket.  This was one we watched a lot on TV. Our parents let us watch this one, censored, obviously.  Although, it's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's a more mild adult movie, but I guess it has some things. What's it rated PG 13? Yeah, I mean it has to be. Yeah, it has to be. Yeah. Um, but I remember watching a lot.

My dad loved this one specifically. He would, Quote it left and right.  This was another Christmas vacation to him. He quotes Christmas vacation a lot,  and we had a lot of fun,  quoting it at school too. Well, I'm, absolutely. If I heard shnikes one more time, I would probably throw up.

Holy shnikes!  Ugh.  Or, like, you always had the heavier set friend that would always grab your jacket and put it on, and do the fat guy in a little coat thing. Yeah. Yeah. That was just, you know, it was barely funny in the movie.  And then we do it in real life and it becomes less funny every time somebody does it.

I don't know, as kids  we were having a blast with it. I was talking about farts.  That was about it. That was about the only thing that got the engine revving.  , starring  Chris Farley and David Spade, the ever loving duo from Saturday Night Live, taking over this one.

Best friends forever. Best friends forever. , you can tell though, you can tell that they're BFFs. I just wish they would have let them go off script a little bit more because you can tell when they go off script and it's much funnier than the scripted stuff. , they didn't have the leeway that Will Ferrell Yeah,  a lot of the things that he made was with Adam McKay, , who was writing on Saturday Night Live with him.

Adam McKay was the, I don't want to say Will Ferrell's not a genius, because he isn't,  Adam McKay is literally the brains behind it all. But the reason why those movies, why they're not as good separately is because together their movies are so good, because they work together for so long, and like they definitely, they Have a working,  attitude of , Here's a skeleton script and I'm gonna yell out things for you to say here.

 He knows how Will's brain works. Yeah. He can trigger things that others can't. And that's a very real, as a performer and entertainer, that's a very real thing. That's the reason why certain people work together. It's just a thing,   andrew, what do you remember about this movie when you were a kid?

  I remember watching it at my grandparents home in frickin Nebraska back in like the late 90s. And so , that in itself has  a strong childhood draw. Sitting in their guest room watching it with my aunt. Who, , knew Chris Farley personally. Oh wow. , I know you wanted to say you wanted to talk about this when we got into it, but I feel like this is perfect.

My aunt went to college with Chris Farley at Marquette of all places. So when I watched it with her, , she hated him and she hated it. She despised him. Why did she despise him? Because.  What you see in Chris Farley, like all the, Oh God, and the physical actions and the overreacting, that was him in real life, she said.

, He craved attention at all times. He would do anything to get a laugh or for anyone to look at him. I remember sitting on the couch with her, she's like, I can't stand this. This is him in real life. It's just him just seeking attention and exonerating, like, and I don't know, just that moment and  of her expressing her disdain for everything that he did and does.

I don't know. It just resonates with me. It's not something that rubbed off, but just her visceral anger for him is something that I could never remove from my brain. And she must've hated her life at that time because he was everywhere.  He was like the name in comedy at that point. He was like Will Ferrell before Will Ferrell. I wouldn't say he rivaled Jim Carrey, but he was getting close. You can tell that he was definitely trying to go for Jim Carrey esque kind of thing. Whether intentional or not, you can definitely tell that he had some, there were some moments in that movie that I was like, that was Jim Carrey.

 You were trying to accomplish what Jim Carrey does. But could, did not. But even  Robin Williams early comedy was very,  Practical,  very, animated.  Robin Williams did a lot of animated comedy early, and I felt like that this took some liberties from that. I think  at this point, cause we're talking about it with Andrew, we have to talk about SNL.

SNL comedians?  That goes way back. They come, they do well commercially since the beginning of the show. , Chevy Chase, Dan Aykroyd, , Belushi. John Belu. Yeah. , like there, there's like Chris Catan,  bill Murray. Yeah. I mean, Christ, the list goes on.

There's, there's Eddie. Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy. Yes. , as recent as Bill Hader, Kristen Wiig, we could do this all day, Jason Sudeikis, like, there's, like, The Forte, like, all of them. , the comedic writers, and the comedians, and the actors, and whomever on those shows, commercially, always, for the most part, have the opportunity , to do well, it seems.

And you can tell that it was interesting. You could tell that they worked together on SNL, but you could definitely tell, and you'll be able to tell me at the end, but  I'd be surprised if I was wrong with this, that it was not made by a crew that was SNL like. Backed because their comedy when they were together and they were doing their own thing The riffing was so much different than Their other stuff that was written for them.

Yeah,  you can definitely tell  and it just it shows like  how SNL is just a amazing stepping stone if you're a comedian And you get into SNL, you can ride that wave into bigger and better things. That is a legendary circle of people coming out of it. Especially if you are actually talented and funny.

Yes. Yep.  And all these people that we mentioned are, and , I think Chris Farley is as well. We'll dive into the movie and we'll talk about some of his humor here.  But as far as him on SNL, My family loved SNL at the time.  It was a good time for SNL back then. It was a good time.  My parents still claim the 80s were the golden years of SNL.

I would say the mid to early to mid 2000s. Will Ferrell and Kristen Wiig and Bill Hader, that at the time period is the best. I would agree, 100%, but I think that is too, like, generational thing. Definitely. , I mean it's hard to argue with them too because you got Chevy Chase,  Bill Murray, Eddie Murphy's coming on, 

that's right. So  it's hard to argue those names too. But my parents loved SNL, my dad loved Chris Farley on SNL,  we'd replay the Matt Foley skits when they'd come around.  One of the greatest. Yeah, but it's also referenced in this movie. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.  Oh, yeah, for sure. Or not that, but there's a couple of his characters that were referenced, but Yeah, he kinda carries it over.

 Chris Farley's not the most  Swiss army knife of a comedian. He's a A little one dimensional, if you will. But,  I do love his energy and I think he does end up getting the laugh. And he will commit to a bit until you laugh at it. I don't know if that's like a petty, a pity laugh or what. For being a big guy that he is, he has some phenomenal physical comedy.

Super athletic, too. Super athletic. When he's sprinting in the beginning of the movie, I remember I was like, Dang, y'all. He's going, he looks good too, he doesn't have like, he looks like a good, good, good runner. He's a big dude, but  I look at someone like that, I'm like, Oh, I don't think like, oh, he's fat.

Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, he's just, he's big, but he's not. He's a big guy, yeah. He's like offensive lineman, he's skilled. Surprisingly nimble. Yeah. And I know you mentioned the way he is from your aunt, I think this is a good way to segue into this. For sure. Um, before we get going on the movie itself, because this is the height of his career.

 And also probably the turn into the downfall  Yes, I  two years it's that's not even and he so his career didn't last that long , I was watching this documentary series, which I highly recommend to anybody. It's called dark side of comedy. It's done by vice I think you can even watch it on youtube now.

I don't think you have to go to a platform and see it But if so, I think it's on hulu But I watched the episode on Chris Farley, and they mentioned him growing up. Whole family talked about Chris being  Self conscious about his weight. Yes, but he knew he him being overweight was funny to people So he played into that and that was his biggest drawback to personally  They talk , in detail about his, spiral into using drugs and alcohol to cope with the fact that, hey, people only think I'm funny because I'm fat.

And that really led him to a lot of depression, and then he started,  overcompensating by,  trying so hard to make people laugh because he felt so empty inside, and that whole documentary got me.  I talked about my aunt knowing him. I don't think that emptiness was ever not a part of him.

I think when he was younger, he was always trying to act out, always trying to overcompensate for something. I don't know where the self hatred exactly originated from, but it's always been there with that guy. Yeah, it bleeds into his act and his shtick and  what he is. Yeah, absolutely and and I I love chris farley I don't by no means think he's the best comedian out there But like I have a soft spot for him because as we were growing up, he was a huge comedian So you saw him everywhere you turn on billy madison With Adam Sandler, and there he is as the school bus driver.

 You have Black Sheep, Tommy Boy playing all the time on TV. He's a part of some of the greatest sketches in comedy history in SNL. Like, I mean, we talked about the Van Down by the River sketch, but the Da Bears sketch. Da Bears! , those are, like, legendary! What was the sketch that they were doing where they were playing him?

I think it was him, Spade, and Adam Sandler, and they were playing, , teenage girls. Oh wow. The ball. They were like in his dollhouse or whatever. Yeah, yeah. That, that was such a fucking great scene. What's the one, I remember the one where he's like the Chippendale dancer with Patrick Swayze Classic. All phenomenal, classic, legendary, phenomenal physical comedy.

That's where I was like, holy shit, shit. This dude is athletic. Like, 'cause , he could move, man. , I'm pretty sure he played football back in the day too. He was definitely big enough to do that. Yeah.  And athletic enough. Yeah. But  Kyle, what do you remember about Tommy Boy? It was one I saw on TV.

I don't think I ever saw,  the actual full movie, unless it was, like, , what, Little Nicky, or Little Nicky,  holy shit.  Or, uh, like, you know, Joe Dirt, or something like that, the Adam Sandler crew, 50 First Dates, , it didn't really Big Daddy. Big Daddy, yes.  Once I saw those, and I realized it was in them my introduction to Chris Farley, I didn't have a whole lot of Chris Farley except for SNL, but at that time it was Adam Sandler, Fred Armisen, that cruise kind of years.

, and I remember just seeing this on TV, like I think it was on like USA or Comedy Central or something and  pop it on. And it was funny enough to watch on like a Friday night. Definitely didn't think it was like Jim Carrey funny or the movies We just mentioned funny or you know anything along those lines because that's pretty much who was doing everything back then Yeah, chevy chase the vacations and stuff.

So like  It was okay. It seemed and correct me if i'm wrong. It seemed like there was a brief window of chris farley Yeah, it was very small.  It happened like When  one kid would see this they would all hang out together You Watch the movie and then they come back to school and repeat the lines and I remember I just remember holy schnikes the whole day I was like  It doesn't sound funny.

It's not funny. I lived in that brief window with Chris Farley and loved him to death Like I absolutely adored his comedy style   I do see the point,  if you missed that window, you've missed that window. Because Adam Sandler was a longer window, Jim Carrey was a longer window, like, you had more time to, like, adapt to their Exposed to their stuff, but his was just so quick.

Yeah, it was a flash in the pan. It feels like there was only, , three movies. It was Tommy Boy, which was probably the better one, and then Black Sheep, which was Basically a sequel that wasn't as funny from what I remember and then you had Beverly Hills Ninja  And he also has this, uh, one of my favorite Chris Farley movies Which I beg we do on the show at some point, but it's Almost Heroes with Matthew Perry Oh, that's great.

That movie When I was a kid made me piss myself.  I laughed so hard  don't know if it's gonna do the same thing as an adult probably not But I used to love that movie  those are like the movies that you're talking about that like I don't think I was exposed I don't think I was exposed much to Chris Farley wasn't just for any reason other than just didn't happen So I don't really I don't really remember too much except seen on comedy.

So I want to say another thing I remember watching it with my aunts but I was so young like that was 96 probably when I watched I was maybe four years old So like the memory of seeing it  isn't incredibly strong Yeah, and we were all so young wait way too young to go to theaters and see it So this one is definitely like on tv Like I said the first time we owned it like I loved it so much as a kid That we had it on DVD and I was older then and I remember seeing the uncut version and I was like, oh boy Here we go.

We get to see the uncensored Tommy boy, and it was like that was the same thing He just said goddamn and shit a little bit more like that's about it Yeah, I don't even think they say fuck in the movie  , I think it's about time. Andrew, give me those sweet digits. So you want these box office numbers?

Ah, sing them to me. Released on March 31st, 1995.  Budget of 20 million. Domestic, oh, whoa Whoa, that movie was budgeted at 20 million was everything shot on set like shot Before we even start talking about this I was like I kind of took a glance over at how much it made And it wasn't a lot but you have to think like these movies like this are just Pretty cheap to make for the most part compared to what we've been talking about.

These aren't high stakes, you know Make your sci fi blockbuster Find a set they're gonna keep like they it looks like they shot it on location. It was filmed in toronto and There you go somewhere chicago. Maybe I  guess I was just expecting  a bigger budget just because of who We'll get to it.

 They didn't have to go to locate like they had a centralized location. It wasn't hard You  Sandusky, Ohio. I think they filmed in Sandusky, Ohio. Easy. I think they actually did. I don't even know if they went to Chicago, if I'm being honest. I think it might have just been like Toronto.

No, that's the skyline of Sandusky. Have you ever been? Oh, sorry. My mistake. I mean, they had, the B roll shot that they have rolling up on Chicago is real, obviously, because that was here and stuff. But they sent a couple interns to do that one. Budget of 20 million, domestic opening of 8 million and then it grossed all together 30, 33 million.

So that made something.  I think they probably made more in the aftermarket  sales of it Because it became a cult hit for sure because it didn't it wasn't really commercially received Well, yeah, but it became a huge cult hit. Yeah, absolutely and everybody remembers it, too So we all watched it at some point.

I'm sure the airtime like those movies that are showing on TNT I'm sure that doesn't cost much to like  Air those movies, but airing them over years, I'm sure it made something back off of it. So it, it was produced by Lor Michaels. He knows what he's doing. He, he sure as hell does. So awesome. Smart as a whip, you know, 

, are we ready? I guess,  yeah. So I think we're ready.  This movie.  It opens  in the way that you expect a Lorne Michaels SNL skit to open. it's somebody running. Some tubby little kid. Running because they're late for school. Yeah. Which I thought was okay.

. It's still a montage of some chubby little like 12 year old running to school on. He jumps through the bushes, drops his history book, makes it out into the road, catches the school bus, and you can see him running behind it, and the kids are like, Hurry, Tommy!

Make it, make it, you're gonna make it, Tommy! And then, the smoke from the bus fills up the air, and it  flash forward to  Tommy. In Marquette. In Marquette, like,  Missing the bus there as well. So he's really just not, he's not getting it. He didn't learn, he didn't learn at all.

How did he get into Marquette? His dad. His dad. That's a family thing. I'm pretty sure in real life his entire family went there. Which is weird because , I feel like this movie, like the father and the family dynamic to some degree is exactly kind of how Chris Farley was in real life.

Probably.  I really believe that, , they play into the whole dumb, stupid, barely got by drinks a lot, but here he is. Yeah. That's kind of, he's kind of Chris, but he's, he's kind of like a lovable loser. Yes. Like, I love like right as they're running as kids.  The younger version of Richard is like biking next to him at the same pace.

Also missed the bus. And he was biking and he's like, Late again Tommy, you're pathetic. You're late too Richard.  There's nothing special about you, Rich. You're not, and you're like pedaling it so slow. Like you're going to be later. He's running faster than you biking. Well, he doesn't look as good. 

Nope. Neither one of them looked great. It was either this scrawny ass little nerd or this chubby 12 year old. Take your pick. Take your pick. Yeah, you can't. There's no in between. No in between. No then on that diagram.  He's on his history final at that point. He gets into, you know, whatever classroom it is.

, he tries to open the door, but it's locked and then he sees someone go into the left side. He's like, oh, silly me. I didn't open the left door. I started counting how many times he Hit doors or went in the wrong door at the beginning. Or started yelling. Quite a few. Quite a few.

Flailing his body. The same joke. And he's already sweating. Like profusely sweating. Well, they shouldn't have called this Time Boy. They should have called it Cocaine. Cuz that, I'm pretty sure that was what kept, fueled this movie. Yeah. Oh, that, but he gets in, you know, his professor rolls his eyes at him, and he sits down, and he, I don't remember the first,  question.

What was it? It was like, who were the framers of, , the Constitution, it was like Thomas Jefferson, and I don't remember the other name, he could name off a million people. Of the Founding Fathers, it would fit, and then it was blank Hancock. Yeah, I was like, I wrote in my notes, I was like, what college  Final history final at fucking Marquette, which is a phenomenal school a great school private Catholic Jesuit if more academic standards that is a history final for this guy to graduate and the first question on it is Blank Hancock, you know that professor was like fuck it.

I'm quitting after this semester  Yeah,  he was administering a fourth grade test to high level college, high level, high level, no college is high level. What does he put down as his answer, but Herbie Hancock? Ooh, ha ha,  that's great, good one. That made me laugh though, because it was such a bad joke, I just had to giggle at it.

Herbie Hancock, and then he like repeats the line later. He's like, Herbie Hancock. They were like in the office or something like that? I don't remember what the quote was. So he graduates, , With a D With a D he passes. I know, they don't give those grades out every day, you know. So as  the professor's taping the floor, List of grades on the glass if you look closely you see that they've  Shoehorned in a bunch of historical figures as the students names.

I didn't I caught two of them One of them was helen keller  Great. I was like, why didn't you put like snl cast members? You could have put like adam sandler You could have done anything but they were like murray could have I think rosa parks was on there. It was Stupid a ha ha for the eagle eye audience out there Wow So intelligent Wow Place joke not even trying at that point.

They were just like hey quick intern. We need a list of names smokes But then he passes and then they fast forward to like his college house where it's  Five or six of his buddies sitting around on the couch smoking from the bong throwing back Miller's like bonging beers and just being degenerates Which you know  they weren't degenerates they were on the rugby team.

That's right. Sorry yours makes no difference but a little story About my aunts and Chris they were on the same rugby team. Sure  No, my aunts Has told me this story many times and , I'm always like, are you sure this is true?

 It's very true. My aunt and her roommates had a housewarming party back in probably like, I don't know, early seventies or mid seventies, whenever it was, they were there. They're the same age. They were born in the same year, 1964, 1963, something like that. They had a housewarming party and Chris shows up and he's just,  out of it.

 That's  how he operated. So like the rugby, the scene with him and his rugby brothers, That was him in college. He gets so drunk. That was him in his adult year. Yes, it never stopped. Yeah, it got worse. At this party he gets so drunk that he strips naked, gets up on top of their bar in the basement, and just belly flops onto the floor and I think he hurt himself or something like that, and they had to  shut things down and attend to him.

 But my aunt will never forget that because it ruined their housewarming party, but he did that and Yeah, just a sore spot in her memory of him that's gonna always be limped and always gonna be there. I'm not gonna lie though, if I'm your aunt and I have that story of , Hey, Chris Farley came in, did three lines of blow, got naked and jumped off our bar onto the like hardwood floor.

But that's a story I could share for eternity. Sure, but it makes sense. What if that dude, what if Chris Farley never became Chris Farley? You're gonna think back and be like, that guy was a fucking loser. God damn. Yeah, I mean, but like I'd still share that story. For sure, and she did share it, but Think about being at like Kyle's housewarming party, and we just  get naked and jump off his like, his loft.

What? You know, you know Kyle. You would kill yourself. The thing is, you know Kyle. Kyle knows you. There's meant to be someone that you like, invited. It was Friend of a friend that showed up that you don't really know, you know what I mean? It's a little bit different. I don't see the problem.  Sounds like a good time to be at, awkward as hell.

You're in college, like at some point you have to understand that these things are gonna happen. Yeah, somebody's gonna throw up on your futon,  somebody's gonna bring bed bugs in at some point. Do you still have a futon at this point? It's on you. He also might have damaged the bar too, I don't exactly remember.

That's where we go, that's where we draw the line. But anyways, back to the story at hand. You see that he is someone that partakes in, , substances, which is He's a sinner! He is, uh, becoming a lovable loser real fast. He's a D plus student who is late in Seven, seven years late to getting his degree?

Seven years late. Almost a decade.   He goes back home to his dad's auto part Callahan auto which that seems like it's a pretty strong business They have a great logo great. Great employee benefits there. They have an employee night How many people do they employ?

300 employees too, so  It's kinda small when you think about it. It's not very big. So he lands off a small Cessna that I guess his dad sent for him to pick up. So now he's gonna join the family business. And who does he meet when he meets his dad's right hand man, Richard, who's a smug, unhappy little man who treats people like they're idiots.

Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yep, he has a smug personality. Smug exterior and  a really unwelcome interior  He is angry at all time  and I still laugh at this joke. I still think it landed now Where he goes? Yeah, a lot of people go to college for seven years. , yeah, they're called doctors.

Yeah  I did laugh out loud at that one. That was good. He had a few like really dry quips that you know that did hit They call him doctors. Yeah. And then  he gets his garbage bag full of clothes and they're off to the, they immediately with bag tags on them as well. Yeah, it's official. And then we get introduced to, , the real star of the show.

Richard's car. Mm-Hmm. . Mm-Hmm.  Yikes. So was it 67 G-T-X-G-T-X something, you know, cars, Kyle. So, yeah, , it's, is that a nice car?  But at that time, for Richard, was that nice? Yeah, , in the 90s, that car would have been like 20 some years old. Maybe more. I think it was probably late 60s. Yeah.

I mean, it was probably okay. It was a 67. Yeah.  It would make sense. So like it's, it was probably almost 30 years old at that point. So that'd be like, that'd be like one of us pulling up in a mint, you know,  94 Corolla,  like something fun like that. Like a Toyota Sienna from 2000  Mazda Miata. Yeah.

Mazda Miata from back in the day, you know, the old, the Porsche 914.  Yeah. Like really good stuff.  Yeah. So to answer your question,  It's okay. It did. It's just a convertible. Yeah, it looked good. It looked good. I'd give him that, but  I like the blue. Sure. And then they're driving through the town of Sandusky, which Kyle, you're our resident Ohiian.

What can you tell us about Sandusky? You don't need to go there for anything. Cedar Point? Yeah, sure. That's great.  I bet they got a couple Wendy's and a few Denny's and like, you know  Well, they don't have any auto parts stores anymore because they were all shutting down. Yeah, well, Ohio is the resident state for the rust belt.

, if you're looking to get, looking to see what something used to be, you can go there and check it out. Cleveland especially. Cleveland.  I'm gonna stop. Yeah, we don't want to get you on a tangent about Cleveland, so. No, we don't need to talk about that. , Sandusky, it's gonna be not a lot happening.

Pretty much anything north of Columbus is gonna be pretty dismal. It's very flat, the glaciers receded and they shut, like, everything's just flat as fuck. Yeah, have fun. And it gets really cold in the winter. It gets very cold. Not Chicago cold, but close. I mean you get lake effects now because you're right there.

Is that Erie or whatever? Yeah, Erie. And then  you're getting shit on by Michigan the whole time. Go Bucs, baby, go Bucs. 

 We finally get to Callahan Auto, where his dad's going through the spiel about how Tommy will own the company one day,  what a bad decision. What an awful, horrible decision. You would think that someone who seems to be as well put together and as smart as Tom Sr. Wouldn't just, you know, throw his son into his idiot son who's been in college for Idiot son.

Yeah. Just will just willingly.  Willfully refusing to be smart right and not business savvy at all. There's nothing Redeeming about this character and we're like  five to ten minutes into the movie. We meet his dad his dad's like very Business savvy doesn't seem like a book smart kind of guy very much like a good old boy But  can schmooze up to people and schmooze very good.

Schmooze is a good word great great salesman. Yes Sells himself really well. They're working on a new brake pad division. That's going to revolutionize the auto parts industry  And they're trying to get a business loan from the bank, and they've maxed out some loans, or they're, I couldn't remember, the conversation was getting  muddled.

But Tommy shows up, he's basically taking his seat  He's an executive. The executive and wait, yeah, but he, all he has He gets his own office. He gets his own office, his dad throws brake pad manuals at him and says, read these. So his only task at this point is to put drinks in his cooler. And read the brake pad manuals.

And then talk funny into the fan.  Quoting Star Wars into a fan. And  his dad takes him home.

Hmm. And there's a beautiful woman sexy music's playing, she's,  getting out of the pool, , throwing water everywhere the camera's going from her feet all the way up to her head in  slow motion , and then Tommy makes the dumbest quote of the movie when he says, is that for me?

Like, , some sort of package that UPS dropped off.  Well, and his dad turns to him and says no son, that's for me Well, you can tell it this was written by a woman not a for sure  Very of course, this is written by a man that passes the Bechdel test. Yeah for real I'm glad immediate woman object. I'm glad that we brought this up Do you know who this movie was written by? 

Peter was a Peter Segal or whatever his name was No. Ew. It was written by Terry and Bonnie Turner.  Should we, should we know them? They wrote, uh. Tell us. They wrote the Brady Bunch. Oh, really? Yeah. They wrote several big time shows and They ended up writing That 70s Show after this.

No shit. No way. They were a very famous script writing duo. Weird. I bet they wrote some weird shit. Yeah. But that's why this movie, that's why this movie's all up and down. Like too, with some of the character work. But, cause you can tell like, oh this scene was written by a man, definitely.

And this scene maybe possibly was written by a woman who the man overwrote on, you know? but Anyway, we find out that this lady Who Tommy's not heard about, even though he's been at Marquette, his dad could've called him or sent him letters, is marrying his dad. Like, the next day. The next fucking day. Just tell anybody.

So, you know, could we get ready to get back and then, you know, be surprised about a marriage and  hey, by the way, , I know your mother passed away and this is a woman I'm dating now, this is, no, I'm marrying this woman tomorrow. Didn't he say that he, like, met her, like, last night? 

Met her like two months ago. She was a personal trainer. She was the only one I didn't want to punch in the face No, but the only one I didn't want to put six feet under a lettuce patch. Yeah, cool  Great So and this is her son a man who is older than you and it's definitely not romantically involved in this woman Paul Yeah, so Paul shows up Rob Lowe Rob Lowe who is also very much into cocaine at the time.

Yes Absolutely very open about this  Rob Lowe shows up. He is the supposed to be Tommy's stepbrother. Tommy's excited to have a brother which Rob Lowe Went uncredited in this movie. He's not in the credits why because he was working on Stephen King's The Stand the TV show at the time and He couldn't get credited for this movie because he was already contractually obligated and To the stand so he did this movie as a favor to Chris Farley.

Whoa, really? Yeah Yeah, they were like Rob Lowe, Chris Farley and David Spade were really good friends. I didn't know that we're a trio I know that David Spade and Chris Farley and Adam Sandler. They were all close I didn't know that , Rob Lowe even said in an interview It took everyone 15 years to realize that he was in the movie and I was like  Really?

Really, because he's  in it acting, so what the fuck are you doing? That's bullshit. He also tells this other story too, this is just a side story that we're talking about Rob Lowe, like him and David Spade went out for drinks and then an infamous moment between David Spade and Chris Farley happened.

So Chris Farley, who we mentioned always wanted attention and be in the center of everything to,  that was just his personality. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got mad that David Spade and Rob Lowe went out for drinks and that he didn't get invited. He put David Spade through a wall. And David Spade walked out on Tommy Boy briefly before they were able to coax him back in. 

Lovers quarrel. That's awesome. Yeah, I love that. What a good, what a good story. Two level headed men figuring out their problems. , they eventually made up, and it worked out for a very mediocre movie. , Rob Lowe shows up. He is a quintessential asshole. He's a little douchebag.

 Not likable in any way, shape, or form. He's a weasel. What does this guy stand for? What's his purpose?  They telegraph the turn really quickly. Yeah, really quickly. You're like, okay, there's more to this. He shows up. They're all the same age. Like the mom, Rob Lowe. A lot of question marks.

 Rob Lowe to me at least, appeared quite a bit younger than his mom. Yeah, but not that much. Like maybe 15 years. Which Chris Farley had dated her, by the way. Really? Oh, Derek? That's cool.   She had to have been older than him too. Had to have been, right? I, I think they were close to the same age. She just looks More mature. I don't, I don't know. What are you trying to say Andrew? You know. Why don't you clean that up? Fill it, fill it in. Wash your mouth out.

Okay, so she was born in 56 , Chris was born in 64, so there's 8 years difference, might as well just say like almost a decade, so it's really not that far. It's pronounced D cade.  D cade. D cade. D cade. Which is what Roblo is. Yeah. So we fast forward. Big ol D cade. Fast forward to the next day, they have the wedding. 

A lot of nothing happens. We meet,  Michelle Brock, who is an, and she is a high level, like accountant, I guess, or she works in operations. High level, but she's  she's doing like shipping and stuff like that. She probably works in logistics team. , she's responsible for the whole department to ship everything out.

So that she's. Very crucial to Callahan auto and she but they're high school buddies. Yeah, she's high school buddies  with tommy and she They're smitten a little bit and flirting, you know right off the bat right off the bat. They project what happens there. Yes Yeah, but it's nothing like it's pretty organic.

I'll be honest. It's probably The part of the movie that's actually decently written is like their organic conversation I thought the girl that played michelle did like a pretty good job in her role. She's fine.  Tommy's dad kicks the bucket during the wedding which  bad right before their , their cover of that ray charles song that was just yeah, it was  It's great.

Oh, it's so good.   Neither of them can sing, they butcher it, and then , he dies. He croaks. I think that was like, I think that was just like, the music gods, , coming down and smiting. How dare you. How dare you. Ray Charles is a legend. He's a legend.

He's still alive at this point. Yeah, and you're not gonna be because of what we just heard. 

When the dad died, how did you all react? I'm just curious. I didn't really care. Yeah, I didn't, I kind of chuckled. That sounds awful, but I was like, oh, wow, he died on his wedding day.

It just, there was just no lead up to it. I remember he died when I was a kid. I remember the fact that his dad died. I remember it being a lot Quote sadder. Yeah. Yeah.  Because like you have more empathy like well, that can't be my dad But just him dying at his own wedding. It was just I'll be honest.

Yeah  that I was shaking my head and roll my eyes But I will say this after that and it goes into like it does like a cool cutaway where they're all looking at him on The ground and then it goes to them looking down at the grave and the funeral and then they play the bagpipes  I just thought it was a little too melodramatic.

It was, but I actually thought it was okay. , I didn't hate the death scene. They got the point across in a comedy movie that it was really sad. I laughed at it. I'm sorry. It just didn't hit it for me. It was just a plot point. Yeah, exactly.  Using his death to move the plot along. And so we're already halfway through the plot, ten minutes into the movie.

Exactly. Yeah, the movie is It is nothing. It is bare bones.  To speed through another section of it, basically Tommy's taking over his dad's sales route to sell the new brake pads Before the company has to sell to Zelinsky, but he has to give up his shares and his house for the bank to even entertain the idea of repurpose or re repurchasing And while he's out on the road selling  we find out did you guys believe this Rob Lowe is a dickhead  Rob Lowe is banging the mom here and then  he's banging.

He's banging his mom. Yeah It's incest. Yeah, they would make that joke. They're definitely related to right? Yeah, definitely not not related They have to be They find out that they're married and that they're just trying to extort the dad here, but  he died before she got written into the will or her stocks became useful, so they have to sell the company. 

To get money out of him. Yes. So they're driving the cell to Salinski while Tommy's trying to stop the cell by getting enough money to pay off the loan from the brake pads. There you go. That's the entire plot. That's it. He goes around to all these random people in Ohio and Illinois asking them to buy these brake pads and that makes himself look like a fucking fool half the time.

He takes Richard with him because Richard knows everything. And they become friends.  I guess they become friends. Somehow, somehow. I don't know how , they just shit on each other. Exactly. His car gets destroyed. Well that's the thing, that'll be the thing. We're gonna write this, and then the car's gonna be like their relationship.

It gets broken, but they love it more. And like, you can tell that they keep on fixing it. Even when it gets broken down. Fuck off. It was so dumb. I don't think it was that deep. I don't think they even They did not even think the writers of the movie, if the writers of the movie are listening to this, I'm sure that they were like, oh, that's a good fucking idea.

Next time I'm at a Comic Con, I'll tell everybody that's what we wrote. Yeah, you better tell them that, because god damn it. The car was a metaphor. Jesus Christ. ,  we're gonna make, the funny part will be how he fucks up the car, but then they'll be friends.  It was just so how energy, half the time and on, there's stupid little like, roadside fight, like a 

Oh my God. So on the road trip, let's go say scene by scene on, I don't even remember, honestly. I kind of started to, I'm talking about like just the car. Okay. Gas. So the car, the first thing they do, they stop at a gas station and he just backs up into like a, with the door open, hits like a pole and it, it folds forward into the car.

Yeah. And he like. Tries to he fixes it  yeah, but like when he I don't know if you guys notice He's like running his shoulder into the door. There's like a Huge dent it looks like the car has been t boned Yeah And when Richard gets out all he sees is a little speck on it Like I think if you got out you yeah When you got out  that door 280 300 pound Chris Farley was literally just ran away that much He was probably close to 300 easily over 300  then the door falls off and what'd you do? 

Yeah, like plays that off like I didn't do anything the next thing I remember is the deer Destroying the fucking car, which was absolute. Okay. I was a dead buck. Why would you pick up a Dead animal that you just ran over  And then put it in your fucking car. What's wrong?  What who does who would do that because you take dead animals to the vet?

Yeah, yeah to fix them unless you're like a fucking redneck. Sorry, aren't you empathetic towards animals Kyle? No No, I didn't think so. I don't like I don't have any animals. I don't like animals But  also, that buck was like a what? Looked like a six point buck. It was close, close to, it was getting close to ten. Five, six point buck? Yeah, it was. Like, it was a big guy. He probably weighed 150, 160 pounds. Who the, who's gonna put dead weight like that in the back of your really nice car?

Why wouldn't you put it in the trunk? Or why, first of all, just don't pick it up. Just leave it there. Leave it there and drive around it and move on. Also, it didn't fuck up the, it killed the, they killed the deer. It didn't fuck up the car at all.  Did you go like the fuck is happening? Yeah, and the fact that the deer even revived itself after getting hit by a 1967 GTX.

A full day later.  Those cars are made of full like metal. There's no plastic composites. There's no like wrap your ass in fiberglass That's hardcore Detroit Metal. Anyways, that deer is dead. Dumb as shit, the deer revives itself, it destroys the car, takes like the hood off, yadda yadda yadda.

Their sales campaign is going downhill. It's sucking. Because he's just a really shitty salesman. They both are.  His go to move before anything was he said, Set a little model car on fire and , someone's office on his fucking desk. Neato. He went to college for seven years just to light things on fire.

 David Spade said, , you mean just babbling out sentence fragments and setting things on fire?  There was some like, redeemable little David Spade. Spade quips in there was there of 'em, a few of 'em.

But again, these happened when it was unscripted. It wasn't like they were just shitting on each other essentially.  I don't think the script was terribly funny. No. So failure after failure, after failure leads them to like, basically. Go nuts, and then finally the hood of the car pops up. They almost die on the road. They fought each other on the side of the road. Yeah, then  they show up on the side of the road to have this big fight where David Spade absolutely fucking clocks Chris Farley's character with a 2x4.

 That's not just a concussion. That is like a broken cheek bone. Yeah, that's a possible contusion and definitely like a concussion. Some, maybe some internal swelling of the brain,  the good stuff, stuff you want.

Encephalitis of the brain is awesome stuff. So they show up at the diner trying to eat. I guess  They're playing that stupid song in the background  Which song was it again? It was the, I'm so sorry.  They were playing it. Yes. And it was just two on the nose, like saying that they both were apologetic over their actions.

And Chris Farley has a huge mark on his face from the two by four shot. And David Spade's like, no, no, your face looks good. And then the waitress goes over, Jesus Christ, what happened to your face? And Oh man. And then Andrew, do you wanna tell us about the Renaissance moment? , if I can remember, I know that he wants to order some wings.

 He basically Does the same shit he does in the guy's office minus the fire. He just rips a roll apart Talking about the roll being his cell and how he destroys the cell So he's just throwing this roll and screaming in this diner and the way he's me Yeah, the waitress goes, God, you're sick.

I'll turn the fryers back on and get you some wings. Just don't shoot us, please.  And David Spade goes, that's it. What? How did you got those wings? You relaxed. You were able to sell. I didn't care. I was just having fun and blah, blah, blah, blah. We have a pizza in the trunk. Yeah, it's just, and it didn't make any sense.

Like, there's no reason  that should have worked. No, no, no. It's the same thing that he was doing prior, which is yelling and getting all physical and doing the same thing. Nothing. Nothing changed. Nothing changed. It's just the reaction of the characters changed. But I will say this, my favorite scene in the movie was the next scene where he gets his first sale.

 I think Chris Farley is riffing in this scene. Where he goes, why do they put a guarantee on the box then? And he's like because they know they sold you a guaranteed piece of shit And then he says like how do you know that the guarantee fairy's not a little uh, Crazy glue sniffer build model airplane says the fairy but we're not buying  Like it's that whole scene.

I could quote it still from my childhood. He totally improvised that And it's it works. Yeah, I was fucking laughing. I was like  It worked really well 

  He just goes  . Okay, I'll buy from you,  . That's it.  And then they go on this tear. They, they, they start hitting everyone. Yeah.

They start selling left and right. They get to their brake pad goal and then, , Rob Lowe's, like, no . So Rob Lowe. So what's his genius idea? He goes into the computers and then deletes where they're supposed to go. Changes and alters changes and dates and orders and numbers. And it fucks everything up. It was really simple for him to do that, too.

He just walked right on in, there was no password. Nothing. , it wasn't even in a program. It was just like, it, I don't even know if she was the one shipping shit to anyone, cause there's no way she was doing it with that program. No way. And then, so he changes everything, the orders get messed up, half of them get cancelled.

Looks like they're gonna have to sell the company to Zelinsky, played by Dan Aykroyd. Dan Aykroyd. Dan Aykroyd. But Tommy gets the bright ideas.  He's a nice guy. Let's go talk to him. He won't buy our company and make a lot of money. So they're on the road to Chicago. Chick a go. Oh yeah, Chick a go.

Chick a go. Chick a go. Chick a go. Chick a go. Chick a go. Chick a go. Chick a go. No shit. It's a hard chuh.  

They're on their way to talk to Zelensky and try to stop the cell, and then , what do they see?  But Rob Low and his mom, oh, that's right. In the boardroom. In the boardroom. They beat him to it.  So now he's gotta devise a plan.

But he doesn't even know it yet, right? Yeah, this is how he finds out that he's being conned. Michelle, they go back down from whatever building they're in, Michelle runs out of a taxi like waving paper, she's like, Wait! Wait! I have his police records! Yeah. Literally just like that. Which, any company could have ran those too, by the way.

 Her brother was a police officer, and she finds out that they're married. They're married  They're married. That's a government document  Like we don't look into these things and so in any major cell they pull that shit No, but they didn't hear no, so now they have to Strap a bunch of road flares to Tommy and to make it look like a suicide to make it look like a suicide They could get back into the boardroom and convince Lenski to buy 500,  000 for a break Don't they just blackmail him over television?

They just get a television It's on live television, too, because We're gonna gloss over the most, like,  funniest part that I thought was actually genuinely funny. When he goes in, he's like, Alright, you check over there, I'm gonna check the bank. And he goes over to the bank, and what does he do? He goes over and Listen up, everybody!

Hey, everybody, listen up! This is only gonna take a minute! And there he goes, Oh, fuck! And they drop down to the ground, and the security officers roll the revolvers over to him, and he's like Yeah, he just like yeah, and then I thought that was genuine and they didn't  they didn't tackle him and try to take him to jail at that but I just gave up but I do love  The news is interviewing the police officer and he's like and after he Came out of the shadows and hit me in the head with a hammer many many many times I had to give him my gun.

I had kids   That was great. There are some very small moments in this movie that I was like, okay This will make it worthwhile to watch once. Yeah, because it's funny. I mean they're  that's I think that's that is funny. Yeah, but there weren't enough of not at all Yeah, cuz they weren't even like main focal not at all.

They were just sighs. Yeah, they're a little like vignettes  SNL skits exactly. Yes,  I thought that was generally with one of the funniest parts also So many federal crimes And just looked over just lost over.  He gets up to the boardroom and He has , the flares wrapped around his stomach, he's got, newspaper reporters, or camera reporters I should say,  interviewing him while he's talking to Zelensky.

He gets Zelensky to,  sign a document worth of 500, 000 in brake pads, and then it's announced that,  His stepmom, or whatever, is married to Rob Lowe's character, so guess what? All of their shares, , go back to Tommy, because their marriage is his, her marriage to her dad is now officially annulled, and he gets to take back the company.

Yeah,  they totally planned that, Andrew, before they did that, so. Oh, well, yeah. Right? Of course. Oh, wait, no, they, that's right, they didn't fucking do that, this was all just happenstance. Yes. At the very, cool. Exactly. Awesome. And I love Because, and before that, when they're blackmailing Zelensky and all this is on the news to buy the brake pads to, you're talking about the vignettes, I want to go back to this one, I do love, they go back to where the guy that made the first, that he sold the first set of brake pads to is on the couch, and his wife's reading the paper and she's like, Hey, honey, look at this crazy man trying to blow up the building in Chicago.

, Oh yeah, I buy brake pads from him. I thought we were watching cartoons. And he just turns it away and he  doesn't even hesitate.  And I was like that man is my spirit animal They're gonna bomb the United States  Watching  Rick and Morty 

 Rob Lowe immediately tries to run for the exit And,  gets his,  I don't even know how to describe it, he gets hit by a car that they're testing brakes on. He falls on it or whatever. Yeah, thrown through the air, lands into a seat. Which then, weight is dropped down on his regions. They were, , they do that in a much more efficient way than dropping a foot. 

On the fucking 20 30 pound sandbag. That's not really how they do it, but like, it's, yeah, it makes sense. But like, how that happened, also, if that was 30 pounds, they would have crushed his nuts. They would not. They did. And he went, 

But then, what happens after that? He's like writhing in pain, looking like a moron. And Zelensky starts to hit on, Well yeah, they take Rob Lowe's character to jail, I guess his name was Paul or whatever, doesn't matter, they take him to jail, and then his wife just goes on a date with Zelensky,  she's part of this, she's a con artist too, she's gotta go to jail, she can't just jump from one man to another and then get away with it.

, Tommy was able to walk away from that terroristic threat in Scotch Free and go back to,  running Callahan Auto immediately. Literally, it ends with Rob Lowe's nuts being crushed and Zelinsky being like, You got one over on me kid and it won't happen again.  And he walks out. You meddling kids.

Yeah, he's like walks out of the building with his wife and goes like to an expensive dinner.  Michelle kisses Tommy in a scene that looked very awkward.  They just flash forward there. He's at Callahan Auto. , now you're new president and CEO of Callahan Auto. Tommy and everyone's like clapping even the people that hated him are clapping now because he sold them 500 they sold the 500 000 got his stock and got his stock back and So now the company is in a lot of danger if that's your ceo and president.

He had his epiphany. He had his nirvana.  He's settled. He didn't change his ways at all, but he figured out how to channel them to something that was haphazardly put together at the very end of the movie that saved the company in this one circumstance, but has nothing to do with their forward trajectory as a company or how they're going to make money in the future or pay everybody's pensions when they retire. 

But they're gonna have an employee night at a carnival.  That's what we need to spend money on, going to Vegas.  Oh, it cuts so deep. Um,  so  And that wraps it about up he ends up on a dinghy don't quit playing with your dinghy There was I do as this movie wraps up I do want to notate how many masturbation jokes we got oh my god and we had a completely illegal scene of somebody just Watching well also two illegal things happening one scene where somebody undresses themself in a hotel pool to skinny dip Wow, like David Spade's character was just being a fucking creep.

Unzipping his pants. Unzipped his pants and was jerking it. While standing there looking out the hotel room window. And then Tommy shows back up and just makes nothing but masturbation jokes for like five minutes. It's just, it's, it's Oh, beat you over the head with it too. It's like, what's your favorite, , little rascal?

Is it Alfalfa or is it Spanky? Yeah, what's your favorite baseball team? The Yankees? Yeah, this is like, it's like, okay, we get it. We get it. He was jerking it to a woman swimming. He was so ashamed of it too.  If I got caught, I'd be like, Yeah, so, sorry, so what? It happens. It doesn't matter. It doesn't.

It's natural. I mean, she's Well, not, not watching somebody undress. Also, not undressing yourself publicly. Correct. And I never understood why. She's  looking around like, I hope no one's watching. It's like, you're in the middle of the pool in this hotel. Somebody who's gonna do that is just gonna do that and be like, Oh, fuck yeah.

There's like 250 rooms. All of them looking down at the pool. Like, somebody saw you, like So dumb. Yeah, so it's like stupid.  Then you have The one where David Spade comes and knocks on the hotel to tell him the Housekeeping! Yeah, it's like, let me jerk you off, and I was like, okay, there's another one.

And then the, there's two instances where Chris Farley's  He's in the sailboat with no wind. He also can't explain why the sail needs wind. He's like it needs wind for to make the make the wind go.  Did you all notice when they panned away that the back end of the boat was like really dipping into the water?

Another fat joke. How many of those did we have in this movie? As many as Chris Farley hitting his head onto a piece of glass or a piece of something. It had to do with innumerous and running into a,  a door or some stupid shit as well.  I understand why now that Chris Farley had the issues that he had.

 This movie is just a giant fat joke and a masturbation joke. Of which we're not funny in a nutshell. Which is, and especially now, like it's even less funny now.  This movie made me sad, too,  because I watched the documentary, I went in with that knowledge, knowing, and I know that he's going through this movie, doing this role, and suffering through depression, and he's having to make all these fat jokes.

Yeah, so at that point, well, I can't get skinny, or  I can't lose weight now because if I lose the weight am I not funny anymore? Which no he would have still been funny in fact He probably would have found something funnier and I also like he  touched into  a darker side of himself that I thought Was would have been had he lived Would have been something really funny to tap into and or possibly even a good actor in there, too Yeah, I was gonna say he could have channeled something a little more serious.

Absolutely You can kind of see some of the scenes in there for sure And like, when he is self loathing and just self deprecating,  you can taste it, like you can see like where he was. Gonna go which is really sad. It's a classic depressed clown Yeah,  and that wraps up tommy boy If it sounded like it was nothing it really truly was there's not the jokes are not as memorable   It's like cotton candy, , like when you're at a ball game and you're a child you're like I want the fucking cotton candy and you eat that cotton candy in three minutes and you're really fucking hungry your stomach hurts That's what I felt like  after watching this movie.

It looks good You On the outside.  There's not much to it. There's no substance. It's superficial. You put a little water on it and it just melts away. To me this is the bag of cotton candy at the baseball game that's been sitting there for a long time and the sun's drenched on it so it's like the bag looks a little pale and kind of yellowy and so it didn't even look good on the outside but you're like maybe the contents on the inside are still good and then you eat the contents and it's just like It's now the sugar is like so solidified.

It doesn't even melt in your mouth. It's like rock candy. Yeah, it's not even candy. It's just like rocks. Disappointment.  While we think of our ratings, , Kyle, did Tommy Boy hold up? No.  I would not watch that again. And as a child, the things I found funny were not funny now. And knowing the back story about Chris Farley and what he went through, but also  the jokes that were not well placed  were overshadowed by off scripted moments between, like with the relationship between David Spade and Chris Farley or just with themselves.

That really just  made me think,  why the fuck would you write this movie? You could have just had them talk the whole time with each other. And it did not hold up Well, I wouldn't watch it again would not recommend to watch andrew. What do you think?  Resounding?

No I watched it last night. I was I it's been a long time and I was hoping to enjoy but With a movie like this I'm supposed to laugh I hardly laughed at all. I just it just was not funny. It was not funny. It tried too hard I didn't enjoy it. As simple as that. It wasn't fucking funny.

How many times did you laugh out loud, do you think?  Maybe once. And honestly, one of the more visceral laughs was when the dad died at the funeral. I'm not supposed to laugh at that. What about you, Chase? Um, there were three or four, but  But this is something from your childhood that like you probably have memories attached to.

I enjoyed the viewing as like a trip down memory lane and this is what I told you This is what this podcast is for. Yeah, this is a movie. I haven't seen since I was a kid I watched it a shit ton when I was a kid I still could quote like I rattled off that quote earlier like I can quote the whole movie And remember it fondly and I watched it and I maybe laughed three or four times  and they were at scenes I didn't laugh at when I was a kid.

Yeah,  I guess I want to touch on the famous scene,  the fat guy in a little coat scene,  a lot of people quoted it , in middle school and elementary school.

A lot of people talk about it. It's been in TV shows, other places.  I like that  it was written by David Spade and Chris Farley when they shared a writer's room in SNL.  David Spade , would sit there and try to write and Chris Farley would be like, Hey David, I came up with something else.

And he's like, If you're wearing my coat again. I'm tired of the fat guy little coat thing and Chris be like, no, no, no, it's something entirely different Something brand new and David Spade would look over at him and he would say fat guy in a little coat don't give up on it  And that's a and I love that story from David Spade, but that kind of joke summarizes this movie It's not funny.

Looking at it with a magnifying glass over Chris Farley's career and his character and his personality. I think it hits a lot Harder does not and it yeah And it just makes me sad because that was a comedian that could have been a lot more That we lost too early , unfortunately we lost Phil Hartman around the same time.

Oh my god, that one was even I wouldn't say that's worse, but like, just how it happened. Right, so it's just, it just reminds me of the tragedy,  and it makes me just want to watch SNL. I started watching, I was like, I just want to watch old SNL playlists. I want to go back and watch the Van Down by the River sketch, and the bears, and like, all the shit go down memory lane, , this is an hour and thirty seven minutes that could be condensed into a ten minute sketch.

Absolutely. And to me, yeah, it didn't hold up. It didn't hold up at all and sad what about some ratings now, so i've got one i'm gonna give it a 4. 8 out of 10  Chase you go next   I think with the nostalgia carrying it and like a couple of chuckles here there and it wasn't offensively long I think I would do like a 5.

7. Okay. , that to me, that's just average to below average. My rating's a little cold. I didn't tie any nostalgia back to it. It's literally just how I felt after I watched that movie yesterday. Your rating's fair. If I'd, if I'd gone in there clean, I probably would have given it lower. Not Batman and Robin low, but lower, yeah.

Do you usually go in dirty?  Very, wow. Kyle, it's yours.  , I'm completely, completely apathetic towards this movie to the point where  I'm having to think hard about the score I'd give it because like, it just didn't do anything.

And I have no emotional connection to it at all.  Like maybe, maybe like a 4. 3 out of 10, like, it's just like, it's so meh. That's it. Those are both of like very fair scores. I think the 5. 7 just comes from, My nostalgia. It's fair. And and being able to like quote some of the lines with it It's a very quotable movie for sure and it was it was that was a lot of fun for me Just to see what  my memory could pull out But again, if I didn't have any attachment to this movie like I did it would definitely be below 5  I'm like average to like had a good time But if I watched it a second time, it's definitely going down. All right, so you want the IMDB? What do you think it is, Chase? I've already looked at it, obviously. I knew what it was before I came into this, but. Is it, what are we, is it surprising?

Are we going to be shocked at it? Do you really not know what it is? No, I don't know what think you're going to be surprised. Okay. I think you're going to be like, shocked. Is it a high sixes? I was going to say 6. Yeah, and that would shock me. It's higher. Oh my god. Get out of here. 7. 3 out of 10? It is 7. 1 out of 10 on IMDB.

Which I think is a fucking crime against humanity. What is it on Rotten Tomatoes? , okay, so you have  your audience score, which is 90%. Well, of course, because it's a cult classic. But then, the tomato meter. is 40%. There you go. That's a little bit more realistic. That's accurate. That's actually, that's one where we actually recommend the Rotten Tomatoes rating.

, I mean like, 7. 1 out of 10? No fucking way, because I looked at that before I watched it, which I shouldn't have done. Oh, I wonder if that's like, because he, because he, Died right after this movie happened, and it's like one of the last movies he did. You know, I don't want to get into that, but you might be into something.

This is a movie fueled by nostalgia. That's what we do here. And we But again, separate that nostalgia, don't think about anything else but the movie, and it's  Dog shit, so well, that's it everybody. We just reached into your brain found Tommy boy in the movie bank of your past Pulled it out realize.

Oh, it doesn't hold up. So we're gonna put it right back into your nostalgia Yeah, just burn it just burn it. Yeah erase it and we'll see you next time