Hey everybody, welcome to Hold Up, the podcast where we dive into your childhood nostalgia and find out if it, well, if it held up. Today, I'm held up with, no surprise here, Andrew and Kyle.  Greetings. Hello. Andrew, stop talking over me. I'm sorry. How's everyone's energy levels today? You know in the middle of the night when you wake up, you go to the bathroom and you step in dog vomit, like cold? 

I've only done that once, but yeah. That's a little bit below that. I'm a little gassy, but I feel okay. Is it because of Master's weekend? Yeah, just all the carbs I've eaten today. Pimento cheese and egg salad and beer. That's not a carb, nor is the other one. Those are proteins and fats. I mean, they're still carbs.

They're Pimento cheese sandwiches? The bread maybe? Egg salad sandwiches? I'm not gonna sit here and merit Pasta salad? Need I go on? Pasta salad. It's a different thing. It's a carb. It's not what you said originally. You said egg salad. You didn't let me finish. You interjected. You spoke over me. You chastised me for what I said.

You said I did to you at the beginning. So, take a seat, bitch. Take a seat. I'm already sitting, daddy. Well, stay there. Why don't you come over here, baby? Glue your buns to that seat and don't get up again, alright? Chase, take it away. How am I gonna get inside of you at that point? Okay, well, as we can see that everyone's feeling great and non hostile about I have no hostilities forms of nutrition, but How fucking dare you say I'm hostile?

I'm a piece of fool as fuck. I don't care about you. I don't care about you. Let's fucking do this. Let's do this. So this week we're tackling  One of my favorite movies is The Mummy. The Mummy.  And it has a long history, so everyone buckle up and settle in. Let's start first. This is your job on the show it seems like, or at least You want the statistics, don't you?

You want the stats. I wanna know. It opened up May 7th. 1999. Domestic opening week was roughly 43 million and some change. We'll say 43 and a half million and some change. Total budget, 80, 000. And it went on to domestic Wait, the budget was 80, 000? Sorry, 80, 000, 000. I don't know why I said 80, 000. 80, 000 would be quite impressive.

That would That would elevate my opinion of this dramatically. No, 80, 000, 000. Went on to net domestically, or is it gross? Gross net, I always forget which one it is. Is it net or gross? For what? What's the correct term? I think it's gross. 155, 000, 000 And we'll say 160, 000. 56 million domestically internationally  261 million and then worldwide altogether 416 million.

Okay, that's pretty good. Yeah, really solid really solid for 1999 I'm also kind of shocked it It didn't do better than that. I was thinking this was gonna be 500 million, easily half a billion. I thought maybe just because of the name alone and like the lore behind it would, but these numbers don't surprise me.

Like, it's nothing. I mean, for an 80 million budget and you bring in, what, 400 and something million? That's a really solid day at the office. I'm not sure  what kind of budget they had for marketing and stuff. I'm, that, I know doesn't calculate. I don't remember seeing many. Trailers for this. I didn't either.

I don't know which might have much might attribute the lower or quote unquote lower gross Internationally or worldwide. Yeah, but the fact let's think about something positive the fact that it fucking did that Well without that much marketing it would seem Especially not geared towards children really that much either I'm sure they had they definitely had toys and stuff like but I don't remember seeing a big campaign about it Yeah, so I don't think I wanted it to gear towards children.

I think it was just one of those like word of mouth Yeah thing. It's a pretty heavy movie for a child to you know, this was not one. Yeah This is not one that kids are gonna like it was scary. I remember we'll talk about that. But like it was  Yeah, I think we'll just roll right into it of what do you remember as a kid now that we're on the scary Beatles Like, I think it had moved to like TV, but this is like early 2000s and that, that opening scene where he dumps the scarab beetles into the coffin or the sarcophagus, if you will.

Yeah. Like I had nightmares about scarab beetles as a kid. My dad would like joke about them and stuff like that. They're going to get you. Better check under the bed. They're going to get you. Maybe a little abusive there by Alfred, but um. Scarab beetles and just like the lore of mummies. It was like one of those things that you as a kid gravitate towards like Like cowboys and indians vampires mummies.

That's one of those a very idealistic thing to think about the lore of mummies going back to napoleon discovering the rosetta stone with one of his escapades dint africa and What that unlocked and even even in the new napoleon movie that just came out There was a whole scene devoted to him and a mummy.

It was very Interesting and that stuff all carried over past the colonial times and imperial Times  times all the way till more recent history, but the earlier things that were found out about the mummies and stuff was because of grave, grave robbers and shit. There was not, King Tut was the only one of the only undiscovered tombs that had not been looted simply because he wasn't a well known Pharaoh.

That was it. And when they uncovering some of these tombs, the real world stuff that happened to people and explorers, when they opened these tombs and the curses that happened, and those are, the curses are.  If you ask people, they're real. If you ask some people, they're not real. I don't think it's one way or another.

They're very cultural, too. Super cultural. It is, it's an interesting thing, and it does send a shiver down your spine, because it's not a cult, like, these are cultures that  we don't know. No, and they've been around for a long time. Much longer  than we probably even know about. I mean, I know we know. I'm not an Egyptology history buff or whatever, however, you know.

The pyramids have been, when were they built? 2000, 4000 years ago? Whenever the aliens built them. That's true, that when they dropped them off in our backyard and like, here you go.  This is, we did this for you. This was, we were going to leave this at goodwill, but we decided that you deserved it more. I think you want these.

Yeah. But, like, they, all the stuff surrounding that is just so ancient and there's just so much that we don't, we will never know about a lot of their origins, stuff that we do know, we know a lot about it, we know, we'll talk about this.  All I remember as a kid is, like, seeing pictures of mummies and being terrified.

Oh, and they scrambled their brains and they sucked them out through their nose and they took all their organs out to make sure that they didn't decay. And, here's this person now. And they still look like a person. And they're mummified. It's horrifying shit. Yeah, terrifying. Hard to grasp as a kid, too.

Yeah, you don't really understand why. You didn't dive that deep when you were young, but you knew that it was an embalming thing. I put mummies into the same category as zombies. I mean, in which they kind Oh yeah, they're the real zombies. But I knew that mummies were real. Like, zombies didn't really scare me as a kid, but mummies did because I knew that they were there.

I, in my little lizard brain, thought that this could happen, that one could come back for some vengeance.  Put it this way, I wouldn't go into one of those unopened tombs and just be the first one to open it. I'm not. There's a reason you're the first one to open it. Have YouTube video? People, I don't want to say, not like grave robbers, but people who go and excavate some of those like tombs.

Those videos are like terrifying. Going into those structures and like.  Black and deep underground you got traps and doors that lead to Catacombs and tunnels that you don't even know where the hell they're going like it's an eerie thing to think about and it that that makes It even more terrifying is knowing that so many people have tried to get these treasures and portions There are scientists out there trying to find ice age Pleistocene era Viral infections and microbes and shit that if they got out we don't know what that would do or how that would propagate, right?

You don't know  We don't know enough about if they had a grasp on any of that or if there was some kind of Plague that might have happened or somebody that had a very rare like disease that they put in there And it just never died because they mummified but all that stuff when I was a kid. I was really just  Interested in the Indiana Jones aspect of it.

I was like correct the excitement the exploring like he's got two revolvers He's fucking shit up and he's just  So do you did you watch it as a child? Yes, my childhood memory of watching this movie was my aunt We had gone through all of the Indiana Jones, my brother and I loved Indiana Jones, and that's not scary.

The only one that's really scary, Temple of Doom. The Temple of Doom is a little frightening. It's scary for multiple reasons now. Pretty frightening. It's pretty frightening, yeah. The first one at the very end when their faces melt out, but I wasn't scared that, I was like, Good, they deserve that, they're assholes.

That, that did scare me when I was a kid, but it wasn't, it's not the same thing. No, but like Temple of Doom was scary. This was on another level of scary, though. And my aunt was like, are you guys sure you can handle this? Me and my brother. Cause we would go over to my aunt's and stay with her during the summers.

She had a massive VHS collection back then. Yes, a VHS collection.  What's that, Kyle? If you don't know what it is, if you don't know, you'll never know. What's it stand for? Um  Video cassette  Video high standard. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for it's sad that we know this commodity We from our childhood and all this time in 30 years and we still don't know what VHS.

Seriously. What does it stand for?  I'm surprised you of all people don't know what that stands for. I really don't I Video homes, I don't know. Video home system. That's it. Denoting the video system and tape used by domestic video recorders and some camcorders. We could have guessed at that. We probably could have.

The audience would have thought we were smarter. Now they've really lost us. We have no credit. Which is fine. But, to, just, show, like, I thought, like, Jurassic Park when I was a kid was scary. Like, uh, what else? What else do we have going on? Like, Beetlejuice I thought was kind of scary. Uh, Indiana Jones could get a little spiky.

This was like the first real scary movie I saw and it fucked me up. People lose sight of these movies, like, they, you know, they look at Jurassic Park now, since you brought it out. But Jurassic Park started as a horror movie. It is a horror movie. It's, it is, I know it looks as like an adventure, Or a drama.

Was it really considered a horror movie? Yes. I would consider it a horror movie. Yeah. I would say the book is not a horror movie as much as it is like a science fiction novel. Yeah. Um, and again, we don't, we'll, Terrace Park's gonna be another time, but like, that kind of horror that we're talking about,  there's an aspect of adventure to it, so it's alluring to a child.

And I was like, damn, I wanna see what, like, he's got all these guns, he's going in there, and you're like, cowboys in the desert? Woof! But it's also like, it is what we call gateway horror, too. If you watch it with the sense of being an adult, which,  maybe I'm getting ahead of the train here, but like, you watch it as an adult, it's not as terrifying.

There's a whimsical sense to it. But yeah, but as a kid, this will scare the shit out of you, but I think it's movies like this that we watched is what makes us watch more horror now. And if you didn't like movies like that when you were a kid and didn't have the intrigue to see those movies, Then you're the type of person now that doesn't watch any horror you avoid it at all times I agree because this this movie is like a peer into what can be truly terrifying And it's the curses the coming back from the dead all that stuff.

It's too intriguing It's like a roller coaster ride. You may hate it at points But you're in it for the ride that the whole thing that scared not this the scare I know we talked to him about the scary beetles and i'll talk about that a little bit more as my as your as your resident Biologist who's not a biologist when it comes down to the actual scariness of it You  The sucking of people dry was what scared me the most.

The scarab beetles were nasty and gnarly, but I didn't understand that until I'd had a tick before and I was like, Oh, what if that crawled inside of me? I didn't understand it until I'd had a real world experience. That thing, there's no real world experience. It's like a mosquito sucking you dry and I was like, that's, that is terrifying.

What scared me the most was, Yes, you can talk about what you said, but the burying alive. To me, as like a child when I saw that, like eight, You having your body wrapped in cloth and shut in a coffin? Well, any youngster can still rule, not let's say relate, but like an understand that is a truly horrifying experience.

That filled me with dread. We're talking about a horror now, and I think we bring up the point now, this movie is based off the horror series, The Mummy.  It is surprising the amount of people that don't know that. They think it's its own spinoff. Like it just happens to have the same name. It But it is The Mummy.

So my childhood experience  My dad loved The Mummy. We used to watch the Universal Classic Monsters together a lot, like, all the time. His favorite was The Mummy, so he was pretty jazzed when this movie was coming out. Did he like it? He did. We haven't talked about it. That would have been 25 years ago. 25 years ago.

Yeah, quarter of a century. Yeah, so, which I think we are on the 25th anniversary of this movie. Mm hmm. It's a fitting. Yeah. It's a fitting.  I remember, I didn't watch it as a child. Because, my mom, it was our typical blockbuster rental night. And, the family got a choice and then, of course me and my brother could rent whatever.

My brother decided to go with the mummy, with the family. I think I was watching the Doug movie.  So, I Du du du du du du du. Exactly. Which had it's own horror elements in it too if I recall correctly. But I was watching that in my room and I could hear, my family was watching the mummy and I remember going in there And sitting kinda in the back of the room, where the doorway was to the hallway, behind my mom's chair, peering over at it.

And I caught the point where Imhotep is forming into a human, but he's like half human, half not. And he turns around and like starts walking towards the camera, and that was it for me. I shut my eyes, I was scared shitless, I bolted out of the room, back to my room, couldn't sleep that night. I don't know that image of him,  of, of him being this half human, half zombie, but he wasn't like  this undead creature.

He was for evil. Yeah. Evil. The CGI back then, looking back on it now, it's still not pretty bad. Not pretty bad. I mean, and they did like pretty good  because they did CG and practical at the same time. And it created this great effect for that mummy.  Even when he's just fully the mummy, and walking around, it still looks pretty good.

Yeah. Still terrifying, but. Still terrifying. Um. But, it was,  like, the only thing that, I remember that night me and my brother were trying to sleep, and we woke my aunt up, and she was pissed, cause she was like, you guys said you were gonna be fine, and you weren't. And then, but I remembered, like, trying to go back to bed, and then the cat came in the room, and I was like, oh, I'm fine now, the cat's here.

Ah, he can't get me.  The cat's here. He's scared of it. He's scared of it. He doesn't give a shit about anything else. Is that why you have three cats now? There's cats. There's one at each corner of the room.  Let's see an undead mummy come into Kyle's apartment.  Which is also on the fourth floor. I don't think he's going to get into this, like,  This fortified structure, as is.

I can barely get in. I think he'll find a way. Oh, he could find a way. How many stories were those pyramids or tombs they were in? I mean, they were probably He was on the bottom floor. bottom floor. Yeah. Bottom floor apartment.  This movie had a lot going on in production. What I find the most interesting is, we talk about the horror element.

This movie was commissioned by Universal. They wanted to update the Mummy franchise.  They really wanted to bring it to a new generation, and they set out to do this. They were in, like, limbo for nine years on this project. So it'd been casted through different directors and screenwriters and different producers.

I won't name them all, but I'll hit some highlights. They actually had George Romero. I figured. To write the script, and he was signed on to direct.  And early Universal executives, when they were pitching what they want from their new mummy, was they wanted him to be the Terminator.  Interesting. So That's not George A.

Romero. No. But, so he wrote something different. And it got tossed around a little bit. Didn't do well in the eyes of the Universal Executive, so they decided to go a different direction. And then, they were like, we're gonna, we're gonna get new writers for it. George Romero signed off eventually. I figured he did.

But I was gonna ask, I was gonna ask if he had a hand in this, because it seemed like it might have been something that was up his, up his alley. Right. And then they turned to, they turned to Clyde Barker.  And Clyde Barker also was set to direct and write and couldn't do it. I wrote down one of the earlier screenplays talking about the Terminator thing is the mummy was moved to Beverly Hills, California and put in a museum there and he breaks out and goes Terminator like which would be kind of fun, I think.

It would be a fun idea. I think this Like that would be a nice update for a new mummy now if we had to redo it instead of that awful I didn't see it, but I heard not great things I'd also just hadn't have a desire to go see the Tom Cruise version. I have no desire I don't have I don't think most of America.

Yeah  Sorry, Tom, like Tom. Love you. You've done enough great, but you don't need to trash this. Thank you I'm not listening to this. He'll listen if I tell him to listen Listen, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy boy. Let's pop those ears on. Let's go for it. They were going to do the whole Dark Universe. Johnny Depp was signed on to be the Invisible Man.

They were going to do everything again and re kick off the Universal Monsters. And that movie failed so bad that they canned the whole series. Wow. Yeah, it looked like shit. It looked like they I didn't understand what we were going for. It had like a military aspect to it. As much as You can tell we're Americans.

As much as fun military might can be, It didn't really add up. I think if they were to let him loose in LA in a modern setting I think that would be very funny That would be because they would speak about like the dark comedy that was in this movie his lab. I was like, that's fucking hilarious That's really dark really funny Well written comedy that's not taking itself seriously whatsoever.

It's just very tongue in cheek and we're just moving along through this universe I thoroughly enjoyed the comedic value now when I was a kid. I didn't quite understand all of it It was a little too mature. It was a little too mature. There's mature aspects to that. Yeah Um the adventure aspect and you're exploring egypt.

Yeah, that's so cool. Very cool stuff a lot to do in egypt. I hear  Where'd you hear that from? I'm, just curious movie right now This movie has a lot of similarities to I think it was 30 1932. Yes You Yeah, 1932? Yes. And with, uh, the good old man Boris Karloff. Boris! Oh. They did a lot of things that were very similar to that movie, which that movie still rules to this day.

That movie's awesome. Don't sleep on those old ones, Fred. They have some really solid performances for the time because that's what you had to hold on to was the performances. So they just decided to update it and I think it works in this case instead of trying to do a complete overhaul, which so many franchises do.

It's not necessary. We don't need that all the time. No. This proves it. Right. Talk about the plot. What unfolds. Let's get into it. The first thing I have is  I love the opening process to this movie. Intro's great. Intro's really good. We're not f ing around with anything. We're getting right into it. I had a talk with a couple other friends recently. 

They don't really like so much exposition right off the bat, which is the film way. You show instead of tell, if you can. I think in this case, I love the narration of it. I love the subtlety of telling the story of Imhotep and how he came to be mummified, which is really fucking brutal. Terrifying.

Absolutely. Again, one of the more terrifying aspects was just seeing the hum die. That they all had to endure.  Tongue cut off. I'm sure some of them were boiled at some point. They had, they were wrapped up  with skin tight cloths so they couldn't move. Eyes taken out. They're in, like, while they were still alive.

And they dumped his body in a dumpster. Sarcophagus with a bunch of beetles flesh eating beetles flesh eating beetles and we're just gonna let's do it Are we doing we're gonna do it now because okay,  here's the I get away Kyle I'll try I'll try my best to keep this under five minutes, but I like what they did.

I don't think it's bad. There is no such beetle that does that as a scarab beetle and scarab beetles are a very diverse range of beetles that are found everywhere except for Antarctica and the North pole, essentially. And they, I mean, Japanese, uh, wood beetles, the ones that are up here that, I don't know if they're called wood beetles.

The Japanese beetles that are up here, that are the invasive species, it's them. They're everywhere. Dung beetles are also scarab beetles, a type of scarab beetle. They eat, they feed on decaying matter. Would they eat him if they were in a sarcophagus with him?  Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. It wouldn't be as active and they would not, they don't have forceps and pincers and proboscis to get inside of your body and then shuttle around like a little fucking aneurysm that goes up to your brain and burrows into your skull.

It won't. It's just scootin right along, and you can't, no matter what, you can't stop it, just like the Disney Corporation.  However, Full circle here. Yeah, we'll just stay out of it, Disney. That whole aspect, incorrect, but I did like what they did because, In ancient Egypt, the scarab beetle, like scarabs were, they were called scarabs, but they were like little pennants, or like little, um, gemstones that were in the shape of a scarab beetle.

So that would make sense that our friend, our little portly friend who's trying to pop those little things out, And all of a sudden, he just,  our little friend who has to pop those things out and gets one on his hand and then all of a sudden it pops out and falls on the ground and burrows into his foot.

Like,  would there be something like that? Yeah. Would there be a living beetle inside of it? Fuck no. It's not how that works. And like, that wouldn't happen like that. However, it's not like that far off to imagine they would put beetles in there with him to help dissolve his body. body to a certain point, but like, why would you need to do that?

If he's already mummified. It's one of those things where there's some matter of truth there and then they move if I move a fight. So I, that's why I appreciate it. I'm like, I see what you're going for. I don't think for a second, they thought as deeply as I did about it, but I know they didn't, they did not.

It was seven year old me. Certainly didn't, did not. And I don't need to, I had to think for even watching it still. I'm like, I will say the Beatles. I was like,  okay, this is iconic to this movie. I don't mind them.  I understand what they're going for with being a movie. You could overdo these Beatles. And I feel like they didn't in the movie.

No, I don't think they did it, but you could have easily overshadowed the entire movie just by having these beetles all over the fucking place eating people's like machina where it's just like all this stuff Oh, they got a beetle inside now it controls your mind like no They could have been a part of the 10 plagues and like literally destroyed like an entire city the commitment to the 10 plagues We got through them quick.

Quick!  Oh my god. One after the other. Right, like immediately. Could we say that this guy's more efficient than God? Yes, I would say so. The evil of the world. I would say, God, we love you. We were just kidding. Don't do that to us, please. We're just talking about efficiency here. You can do it, the art. Fiction efficiency.

The art of which you went about doing what you did. And don't even get me into the killing of the firstborn. I mean.  Oh boy.  However, I thought, I really thought that they did a good job. Like obviously saying true to that. I also appreciate their commitment to clipping along through this. Like we're trying to get a story told and they cover.

Vast amounts of distances in 20 minutes like very short amounts of time, but I had no question about any of it I was like, yep, that tracks. That tracks. Yep. There we go. I don't think I in the whole intro process I don't think I had a single negative to say it moved quick and it set up a great Lore and I was thinking to that to myself and I wrote that down.

I was like Sequels, which obviously they did do sequels, but I did like this the first sequel But then you take my my girl Rachel Weisz out, and I'm I'm done. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, even though that movie was actually pretty solid. It was a good movie. I haven't seen it. Yeah. Oh  Oh, well, we can't watch that one.

They can't wait. No, I can't hasn't seen it Even though we were all like I think college when that one came  Yeah, but  the second one this I'm talking about the second one. Yeah, you haven't seen that one That's a sequel for our next podcast called did we grow up?  Which that's easy to say no will that actually happen?

It hasn't probably won't probably In the intro, this is small, but it's cool to see. Uh, you know, what Egypt would have actually, like, looked like back in the day. Like a, a rendering, if you will. Like, and I know that's small, but like, we hear about this, but, and all we see is ruins, but to see it, like, actually picturized and put into some sort of physical form on the screen to help your brain, I, I always appreciate that.

Appreciate that as a kid. Yeah. They did a really good job with the, wherever they were shooting, I looked it up. They actually shot Mor Morocco. Yeah. They actually shot on location on quote unquote on location, at least in the same part of the world region. And they shot some in the United States. They saw, I figured they did.

And then Britain, they shoot in Utah. Yeah, Utah. And  were, it looked like Utah, but the majority of it was in Morocco. They built. Big set pieces for this, which Universal does such a good job with set pieces, and it needs to come back. This like, new day and age of green screen. This'll be my  500 times shit talking Marvel films.

If you like those movies for whatever reason you like those movies, and you like the universe that they've created, go watch one of these movies where they actually build the universe. Chase, what do you have against Marvel, man?  That was sarcasm. You don't have to answer that. We don't have enough time.

This podcast always runs long anyway. But I've got a long So is it safe to say you agree with Martin Scorsese? In his view of Marvel movies? What did Martin say? He said they were like carnival acts or something like that. He referred to them as like carnival acts. Yeah, that's perfect. Just like rides essentially.

Yeah, yeah. It's a 16 hour ride that you have to take. And it's just, it's full of nothing but, uh,  And the bigger the flip and the bigger the drop, the better the movie. It's all just creating stuff that they can riff off of. And you could say the same thing about Star Wars, honestly, but I think Star Wars has done a much better job and Nathan Fillion Fillion.

But a bad, but that rounds us back to what I'm talking about. At least the original Star Wars created the models, the set pieces. Absolutely. They got in front of each other. And the most recent Star Wars IP that's done well has done the same exact thing. Yeah. Mandalorian. Primarily is what I'm talking about.

Yeah, Andor, they were huge in that. Andor is very, very good too, but they shot that on location. Did they really? Yes, they shot a lot of that on location. They did not do that in that big soundstage. But again, coming back to the point of, it makes a difference when you're telling a story, when you can actually have, when you're like, that's real.

Or, I don't have to question whether or not that's real. Yeah. It makes a difference. Willing suspension of disbelief only works so much. And it helps the performances of the actors too. You have, All these actors, and they're actually acting with each other. They're actually reacting to their surroundings.

If it's hot that fucking day, They're gonna be sweating. They're hot, and it just creates this thing. It's, they're not in these like, air conditioned, you know, factories. And I'm not like, shitting on actors, or like, any of those people that like, act in the Marvel movies. It's just, I'm sorry. We've all done it.

We're sitting here, three actors, obviously shitty ones. We wouldn't be sitting here, but your environment informs your words, right? And so we've done this and I know how grueling and hard it is to put on a good performance, but I can only imagine if I was in a room like this with nothing but green screens.

And someone just came in and go you're standing here. You're on this vastly Colorful world. There's fourteen thousand. Oh, can I get a picture? Yeah, and they're like, oh no our xerox machine, bro Oh, yeah, disney didn't give us a check for that. Oh, that's right because we don't pay anybody anything at this idea but Bravo universal to you building the set pieces in this movie.

I don't know if you still do for your movies I don't think you did for the new mummy and that's why it fucking failed but Here we are other reasons So that was a big A plus for me, is shooting on location or at least as close to location as possible. And the lighting design that had to happen at that point was just, it was just so much more natural.

Yeah. And like, you can tell the quality of light was just like, it was, it matched like, what you would think. Egypt would look like versus LA or we'll put it on a green screen There was obviously green screen moments in that but like it wasn't like we had Cairo's backdrop was probably  Well, that was like a bustling Cairo back in the day.

Yeah for sure. But like it's really hard to get a night Yeah, like a 1922. What why here was this? Why? It was either, it was during the Roaring Twenties for sure. It was during the It was either directly after World War, World War  I or right before it. I couldn't decide. No, no, no, it was after. I thought it was after.

The weapons that he's using, if we're going to be accurate, some of the weapons that he was using, I think he had a Remington, the Remington shotgun, the trench gun that they had, and that was World War I. So it was probably, I'm guessing somewhere in the like the mid twenties. Like 1925, 2030, something like that.

And those weren't single action revolvers either. No, he had a Colt 1911, which also was a, a Colt 1911. World War I weapon. A couple, a couple of the pistols they have were older pattern that they had before. Also the occupation by Britain in that area wasn't until after World War I. The Royal Air Force would have been stationed in, quote, Gaza before 1918.

Now we get our introduction to Brendan Fraser. Good old Brendan Fraser. Oh my god, is he hunky. Yeah, he's, he's good looking guy. Very profound, prominent, uh, jawline there. Yeah, also quite the tan. Yes. Quite the tan. You could tell he'd been shooting for several days. Yeah, and he was always sweaty. Always sweaty.

Which is what adds, but again, that adds something to the world. That's the brawniness. Yes. And it also, again, it's gonna influence your acting choices to make it more real. And I love that man. He does all of his own stunts. That's why his career took a dip, too. Is because of all the stunts. And which leads me to, did anyone notice the hanging scene?

Mm hmm. Oh, yeah, when he's down like that. Yeah. Yeah, and he said they do that with the little wire hanger in the back Well, he was hanging and like his eyes were rolling in the back of his head And I was like that's some really fucking great acting it was real wasn't it? It was real Yeah, Brendan Fraser actually got choked out.

It was he was on like an interview I forgot who he was interviewing with but he was talking about that scene  and the director comes over to him after a couple It takes and he's like hey  doesn't look like you're choking. We're gonna need to  Redo the noose a little bit and and Brandon Fraser's okay cool and the stunt coordinator comes over and  Moves the noose up so he'd hang further and he was already on his tiptoes, but they moved it up too high So if you go back, there's one single frame where his eyes are actually rolling in the back of his head I was like that is very convincing  because it's true.

It's real. That's maybe he's actually  That's, kids, that's not acting. Okay?  To put that out there, that is indeed not. Maybe method acting. Maybe. Method acting is bullshit.  So, he passes out, he says the stunt coordinator comes in, cuts him out, starts slapping him in the face, and when he wakes up, he's like, congratulations, kid, you're in the club.

Same thing happened to Mel Gibson in Braveheart. Ha ha ha, cool. What a, I'd be like, ah, that's fucking great. Awesome.  My insurance didn't cover this. Oh, no, no, no, no. Which, fun fact here, I even wrote this down. The Moroccan army Had, gave their blessings to the film crew and put out insurance on all the actors.

Wow, that's nice of them. Terrorist insurance, so if they got kidnapped, the studio was covered. Good. Wow. I'm glad the studio was covered. Yeah, I don't know if the families would have thought about it. Who gives a shit? I'm glad the studio was able to make more. Yeah. That's what I care about. What was that budget again? 

80 million? Yeah. Because you could be really out some money if they took some assets or resources, so. Think about our poor Brendan Fraser. Actually, who am I kidding? If it had been Rachel Wise, it wouldn't have gotten taken. Yeah, for sure. But great scenes there. I love the whimsicalness and the adventure scenes that they created like magical It was really magical Yeah, like the the whole boat ride when they were going to find the city of the dead.

I would imagine they were on the Nile Correct. Yeah  No, that's the only  Only, only water source there in Egypt?  But it, it created that great effect and then we get the Americans. Of course. They were pretty, they were pretty stupid. This will be my, my first negative here, okay?  Brendan Fraser is not changing his voice at all.

He is obviously a white man. He is not from Egypt.  I don't know these Americans like and he's not and he doesn't have a British accent. So what is he? What is he supposed to be when he's shit talking these American? He's American, but he's a cultured American He's been around the block. He's he's seen places or he's just Canadian, but yeah, but but they're just like they're like Americans and and then they're over there just like shooting shit  Exactly and like but then they but then again When Jonathan, the flaming guy comes after Jonathan, which by the way great casting choice.

He is phenomenal in that movie Just a really good foil and comedically. He just takes everything on the chin and makes it something a little bit more  It's a little bit more dynamic. I do I like his performance a lot, but he gets that little flaming guy  Comes after him and he just fucking Freaks out, and then the Americans go, uh, uh, double take, oh fuck, well here we go.

I'm gonna make a comparison at the end. I liked the American gag, but it's different with the Beatles because, not the band, but the ones we were talking about. They do that one that gag too much with the Americans every time you see the Americans It's like the Americans show up to give that gag of we're stupid dumb It was a little too modern in my opinion.

Yeah, I don't think Americans in the 1920s were that correct and unrefined This gag just kept going and going and going because it even had the guy When he's guarding the remains, I don't know if you guys remember this, and he's just like, Give me a bourbon. Oh, and give me a shot of bourbon. Give me a bourbon of rocks.

Bourbon to taste it down with. Okay, bourbon is an American thing. They're not gonna have bourbon in Cairo. Not, probably not. Well, maybe, maybe, okay, if they were in like a high end hotel, probably. Bourbon wouldn't have really existed. Bourbon hasn't, wasn't even really popular back then. No. It was not at all.

Why don't you look it up? It wasn't. I know it wasn't. He's from Kentucky. He knows. Bourbon popularity hasn't really been booming since like the 90s. So it was not something you would ask for. So it never existed before it was popular. You wouldn't ask for it twice is my point. But bourbon was an American thing.

It is an American thing. It is. And it wasn't shipped overseas at that time because it was a newly formed thing. That was shoehorned in. And then the guy turns around and he starts playing with the pistol. Cool. And acting like he's about to blow the top off of these remains that he was asked to guard. So it, to me, it was just like, I get you create characters that we laugh at, but if you surround the movie with too many dumb characters, it makes your movie seem a little dumb.

Yeah, I will challenge both of you on that and say that I do think that that was a pretty good representation of that kind of American. Not in general Americans, because let's just go ahead and say O'Connell was an American. If he was an American, he was probably the one upstanding American. And that's, and again, this is being shot with the idea that he is in our country when this came out.

We're gonna assume everybody, all the protagonists are American, right? So, he  I think exemplifies like what a good American is because I do absolutely think that there were Americans like that back then because the roaring 20s were happening and people had money to spend they were going to Europe and trashing shit and going across like Back when air travel was in its infancy and people were going places And if you think that rich Americans were cultured back then they were not because culture back then we didn't have we were all I was isolationist, especially after World War two.

It's not the characters you created You It's the amount of gags we got with those characters. I felt like on the ship. I was like, oh, that's funny And then when the ship caught fire just killed him in the ship and I felt like that'd been fun But I knew we had to drag them along because they had to be the ones to keep fucking things up They also had to be the ones to bear the brunt of the curse It couldn't be O'Connell because he would have to He would have to come back and get all the stuff, and you can't stop him.

That was the whole, the Magi's whole thing, like, you can't, you cannot stop. He will not eat. He will never sleep. He will never stop. Like, he's gonna, like, he's never, he's never gonna stop, like, it couldn't happen to O'Connell, or it couldn't happen to, What's her fucking Rachel Weiss character couldn't happen to Jonathan.

So like we have to make it happen to somebody and why not let it be the obnoxious Americans who are just these rich poker  people who are probably just there to fuck shit up and drink and not give a shit about another culture. Yeah. They're there to make money. They're just there to make money. They get what's coming to them though.

So like I was never, there was never a point where I was like,  yeah, the gags, the gags were a little much.  At a certain point, especially when they all get fucked up and suck dry, baby. At a certain point, I'm like, okay, we need them to progress the story in the way that it needs to be told. I won't disagree that I think there was a little, like, beating a dead horse with a lot of those gags.

And I think that goes into it, because as, you know, we're going through the movie, like, Everyone is fucking making dumb decision after dumb decision after dumb decision. Like, at some point, like, even your main character, like, Rachel Wise, reads from the, uh, Book of the Dead, is that what? Yes, the Book of the Dead.

Immediately. As soon as she touches it, she reads from it. And she's the one that's like trying to She's the historian, she should know that's a big fucking no no. She's trying to protect everything. It's just, it's not real, none of this is real. Yeah, doesn't believe in curses, but is a historian around curses.

Oh, nonsense. Yeah, exactly. That, I was like, that whole thing, I understood that we had to move on. What'd you say, hokum? Is that the word that kept getting thrown around? I think it was something along those lines. Yes, yes, that's exactly what it was. Yeah.  I never heard that term before, but whatever. It's posh, you know.

I am uneducated. You're a peasant. I am a peasant. If you're a peasant, what's Andrew?  Surf, I don't know. Is that the same thing?  Might be a class below. No, you're like, you're the boy who cleans the stable troughs and then gets excited when the horse poos against him. That'd be surf levels. These three Americans were not, they were hired by another guy.

These are just freelance mercenaries basically at this point. They could have just been cowboys. They were on a ranch in Wyoming shooting shit. This guy's like, hey, Hey, You guys can shoot all right. Why don't you come with me to Egypt? And they're like, how do you spell that? He's like, don't worry about it.

You'll be dead by sundown.  You could definitely find some rangers in Wyoming that were like that. I just don't know if the three that we saw in this Cuz I feel like people back then would be like former soldiers and like world war one But what your point stands which they exist and they sacrificed themselves For the mummy itself so he can gain his body  Get back to full of power and whatnot that whole process They had to take some things from I know it happened in the original mummy But it had so much of American Werewolf in London kind of vibe.

Yeah. Yeah, which I was All for it was originally done. I hadn't seen anything like that in any other Movie, it was kind of suspenseful like you felt like This thing is powerful, but oh boy He he's getting more and more powerful. You guys got to stop him. So it added this whole drama because The plot itself is not that deep.

No. They set it up at the beginning, and then you go a while, and then she reads from the book.  Bringing Imhotep back, who is trying to resurrect his girlfriend, which no one loves somebody that much. No, no, it's just a side piece. I don't know, she was pretty attractive. Just a side piece. You could tell he was into her at the very beginning.

He was so into her that he forgot to not touch her elbow. Yeah, you're right.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stupid. Such an idiot. Um, but yeah, so that's the whole plot, and you have two hours of movie time to fill this in. And so like Other than filling in with characters doing dumb stuff. Which is what happens most of the time nowadays.

We have to create this romance between these two people. The romance happens naturally during what's happening. And it, at no point was I like, Oh great, here we go. It was funny. Yeah. It was something funny. There were both, there was no part about that was like, Not like, oh, looking at that now. That doesn't hold up.

That was definitely something I was like, They're two consenting girls. Really good performances too. Absolutely. And very golden age performances as well. Just funny, refreshing, like, It's, you don't need, we don't need to reinvent the wheel. You know? Like, we know what these stories are like, We know what these characters are like, Let them do their thing.

And they do. And they, it was, I have no qualms about any of that. The romance or anything. It actually helped at the very end.  Especially with she's like the ingenue and she needs to be rescued for sure. She's very smart She helps get them certain places and without her they'd be fucked Even though she's the one that got them into the whole fucking thing in the first place Without her they would all be fucked Yeah, to finish that off and I know Andrew's got a point in the whole process of this That's what's carrying the movie is that building love relationship and trying to stop this thing from becoming more powerful That's it.

And but in two hours, they do such a great job of building that suspense with He's a little more powerful now You got to fix this a little bit more powerful a little bit more powerful You build that up so perfectly and then you get this crescendo ending dude It made the movie not feel like two hours.

Before we had gotten away, we got away from our American friends. There was a scene that I really appreciated. It was very small, but it was one of my favorite moments in the movie. It was after, I believe, that the book had been opened, and the mummy had been awakened. Our American friend with the glasses lost him.

First of all, him stumbling around being that blind without glasses. Which was terrifying. Yes. Scary as hell. It's terrifying. I didn't necessarily believe him that he was that blind and that befuddled, but you're in the middle of a crypt in a tomb, middle of the night, your glasses are off, you can't see.

That moment where you can see the physical body of the zombie but not make it out, and then he turns around and pans to the camera and lets out that shrieking scream, that struck me to the core. Like, that was such a powerful moment. And it wasn't a cheesy scream. Like, it instilled like a real sense of fear in you.

You're like, holy shit, this is real. These people are fucking terrified. And when he came down that hallway and came after him, I felt that terror that I felt when I was a child. And I did not think that was going to happen because nothing these days fazes me in a horror movie. But I also love that moment because it harkened back to old horror movies.

That scream where you realize something that your life's about to end and it cuts out. How many times do we see that? Yeah, almost in everything.  Probably because they were using real practical effects and someone's not in front of a green screen. Can we talk about Benny? Oh, that little fucker. Also, for everyone at home, Andrew's dog's name is Benny.

Different Benny, he's spelled with a Y at the end. Still very similar. Very similar attitudes. Except Benny isn't Hungarian, or like Slavic, or also He was Hungarian. He's Korean. Benny talks shit, like this guy talks shit. Absolutely. Benny, if it came down to it, and like, something was chasing after us, and Benny could push the button to save himself, Benny would push the button to save himself.

I strongly disagree. If it was Gretchen, Benny Maybe. If it was you, perhaps. Anybody else? He's pushing that button. My mom and my dad, for sure. Maybe. He loves who he loves. Benny doesn't love anyone but himself. Benny in the movie, that is. My Benny loves many people, so. If it came down to his last bowl of food or you, I think he would, I think he would Y'all are just relating because of the name.

You're hating on a fucking dog right now. But I will say, this character is insufferable in this movie. He's a piece of shit. They said he's a Hungarian, but would you have guessed Hungarian? No. No! No. I mean it was He could've been Portuguese, he could've been like, Slavic, he could've been, he could've been Middle Eastern.

I thought he might've been Turkish at some point. He was probably the weakest performance of them, like he, he was, his character was written to be an asshole, and you to hate and despise, and I despise this guy. Yes. I mean I thought he did a good job with the character, I thought the actor did a good job with the character.

Right, right. It was, it was weakly portrayed. The setup. It was one of those characters that was overly done to make him very cowardly. What was his setup though? Remember in the initial opening scene? They're at the firing line, remember? And they have the guardians of Imhotep or whatever coming down the hill.

And he runs, right? And he just runs back to the tomb. And you think that's the last you're going to see him. But here they make him out to be this coward. I love when Brendan Fraser beat the ever loving dog shit out of him. Yes. And then No, no. I'm gonna cut you off there. The best part with that is when he takes the chair, the wicker chair and throws it means he hits it directly in the back.

He kicks it with his foot, doesn't he? No, he takes it. No, he takes it, yeah. Overhand throws. Yep. Like a 15 pound wicker chair and just hits him directly in the back. That's what it was. Yeah. It was cut. It was cut into two shots. So obviously he didn't have, but he launched that fucking chair and I believed that he did it.

Great, great moment, big guy. 100 percent sure that he hucked that chair as hard as he could. Absolutely. But I actually read the behind the scenes on that. The guy that played Benny got his ass beat so bad in that scene, like, cause he did all they both did all their own stunts, which bravo anyone at home, if you're thinking about being an actor and you don't want to do your own stunts, then Don't do it.

Don't do it. Don't put it, don't put us through it. Yeah. He said that he was so badly bruised the next day he had to ice his nipples. Nipples.  I don't know if that was from the shoot or what happened after. Why his nipples as opposed to his mid back where that wicker chair hit him? I'm sure it hit him so hard that he rubbed the ground.

Blood pulled in his nipples.  The G forces he pulled on that fall. It's the same as those fighter jets and independents. That's exactly what it was. He was a weak character though. He was very weak. I, okay. And I, I hate that they used him to be such like a mover of the plot. Like, I didn't think he deserved it.

Okay. But how else are we gonna move the plot? I know. It's fine. It's fine. But this is back to my point of we have all these cowardly idiots. I'm saying a lot of positive things about this movie, but if I'm finding negatives, which we're on now, I guess is the negatives I, I'm saying. There was too many dumb characters and not enough, like, Smart characters.

I save everything and I know we have some heroes, but they all it made them human I will say that they're all pretty dumb. Yeah, they're all pretty dumb. They're all pretty stupid It's just like you could have avoided this six times before we got to this point  But I believe that though That's what I like I believe that people are that dumb because I know people were that stupid Yeah And they would and of course they would if we're gonna if we're gonna do rolling suspension disbelief That was probably one of the realer parts, I didn't have to be like, Oh shit, I wonder if that was real.

Of course I fucking believe, Six, four, four or five Americans would be like, There's no curves, fuck, kick it open. Let's get into this shit, I wanna see those fucking intestines in the tube.  Was it overdone? Sure, yeah. I don't think it detracted from the movie whatsoever. No, I agree with you. I think that it was just something that, like, if we're gonna have to nitpick, sure.

We could for sure talk for days about how that could have been better, or maybe written a little better. I want to ask y'all a question. Do you think that camels have the capability of outrunning a horse? I want to know that. I didn't look it up, but I want to know. In the desert? I would say camels yeah, I would agree with Chase.

Yeah, probably. I just I don't think camels have that physical capability. A horse is a fucking machine. But in the sand? In the sand, though.  Without water?  Because camels have the endurance on horses and that Dude, absolutely. Dude, but they don't have the power of a horse. I, I could be wrong. I don't think it matters more about power.

If we're talking about straight line speed, Are we just talking about like, We're taking them to a horse racing track?  I've already looked it up. Horses are generally faster than camels, of course. But camels can run faster than horses on sand because they don't sink as horses do. There you go, there you go.

Because the way their hooves splay out, you know, bovine creatures. Universal? Being his, being accurate. That was one of those moments I was like, I don't know if that is accurate and that's gonna bother me, but hey, I'm wrong. I'm glad to be proven wrong too. I have a couple, while we're in the process of dissecting this movie, there was two scenes that I've learned about now recently.

So the ship going down.  All the way back in the middle. I've got something to add to this too, but you, you take it. Rachel Wise is wearing the white dress.  Yes! the water?  Yes! So, they almost lost their PG 13 rating. Almost won an X, baby. Yeah, cause she was completely naked underneath and, and they couldn't do it.

Because, obviously they burnt everything to the ground. It did practical effects. So, what they had to do is they had to paint her body white in CG. Damn, no way. I thought that dress looked a little funny. Yeah, so if you go back and watch it frame by frame, that dress is CG'd on her because the original one was completely see through.

This is a small bit, but do you all know how common Nile crocodile deaths are a year? Very common. It's like 500 plus deaths a year. It is brutal. I was disappointed that when everyone was in the water, there wasn't at least one crocodile attack. Or a couple people didn't get, like it depends on the time of year as well.

If it's more of the drier season Probably gonna happen a lot before, but Nile River is not deep at all. No one swims in it due to bacteria. It's wide though. It's wide, but it's not deep at all. It is very shallow. Yeah. I think it's like, what deepest parts get to be about 15, 15 feet, something like that. On average, it's like seven.

I think. I could be wrong on that. Don't hold me to it, but I, I'm pretty sure it's, it's, it's, it's very shallow in that regard. Oh, I wanted to piana too. You do not get in denial. You don't. One, because of bacteria, but also because of crocodiles. And I wanted to see someone get eaten by a crocodile, or a couple people just get fucking devoured.

I thought it would've been perfect. It would've fit right in. I was like, where are the crocs? Because now crocodiles fit in with that Egypt lore. Like, they are so ingrained in that. That would've been awesome. Yeah. Um, that wasn't our only chance at nudity. The whole scene with, uh, Imhotep and he's fighting the plane.

With that crazy ass, um,  uh, Winston! He was our cousin Eddie of this film. When he was doing all the sand tricks, which was fuckin awesome. They had to change the camera angle, cause they were shooting it from behind. The sand they were kicking up kept blowin his robe back. And I guess he was,  And I guess he was runnin commando those days.

It was really hot out there. So they kept seeing his bare ass cheeks. That's awesome. So they had to change the entire shot of that scene to also not give it a heart rating. If you blow enough in there, like you're getting balls and everything else in between. Which again, why didn't you just keep it guys?

I wanted to see what he was packing underneath. They hired somebody to come out and work with people on the lingo and the dialogue. Let me piggyback on this. When they're speaking in the beginning, all their time is when the mummy is speaking.  Creepy voice, by the way. Yes, very creepy. Really, really dark.

That's all real Egyptian. Yeah. All that's real. Really? Yes. Yeah. The Egyptian language survived because of the Greeks. Well, the Greeks and the Egyptians and the Romans were all in the same time period. There's translations that exist between Greek, Coptic, and the Coptic church still exists today. Yeah.

That's all specifically very real. And that's one of the reasons why. This movie for me knowing that now I was like, holy shit That's amazing that they went they they took the time to do that They could have just been like they could have just fucking done jebberish They could have done latin and nobody would fucking now in terms of mastering the the actual dialect like where do they?

Where do they pull from for that from greek translate? I'm adding here is they had someone who studied all this over time and  Came on set and made sure people were talking and speaking in the same way that they that they would at that day and age So they did the best that they could to try to create some sense of truth to it What other movie in that time period is going to that link?

What other movie has ever done that before? Yeah, true Oh, there's I mean, there's  I'm talking about like h h history movies? No, but to, to, for that specific of Egyptian lore and Egyptian For, for, specifically for Egyptian, that would probably be unprecedented. One thing, that guy, Imhotep, did he, didn't he not look like the tribal leader in Temple of Doom?

Yes. I kept thinking it was him. It wasn't. It's not. It was a long time ago. But, sorry. You're talking about the guy who was in charge of the Thuggee cult? Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. He looks just like him in the face, bald and everything. He actually did an interview  saying if that movie happened  at least 10 to 15 years later, he would have never been casted. 

Which is fair because I don't think anyone in that movie was Egyptian. Yeah. So it's, it is a movie of its time period, but I feel like it's not the most, it's, it's not even that the most egregious of them all. It's not egregious at all.  Here's the deal. Who's being presented to, who are we making this movie for?

We're not making it for people in Egypt. We're not making it. Peoples around the world, like will,  Take a figure or a culture, make media about it, and then inject themselves into it to make it understandable. I don't think there's anything wrong with not having anybody to pull from. Andrew and I talked about this in the college recently.

When we went to college, we would put slates on to do certain musicals, and then they would get pulled. Like right before, because we didn't have enough people of a certain color or a certain ethnic background to do it. And like that, which makes sense. However, When we could do things, we would. We did Antony and Cleopatra, the Shakespeare.

Do you think Shakespeare was worried about, like, I wonder if we have enough people this co Do you think Shakespeare cast an Egyptian in that? No fucking way! If you have access to it and there are people that can do it, Great! Then you need to do it. If you don't have it, shut the fuck up and make something.

This is my problem with when we get into, like, I Modern art and you hit the nail on the head. Chase was like, would he get cast now? No, he wouldn't and would that be okay? Absolutely. It would be okay We don't need to of course it was okay for back then and that kind of goes into who else did they look at?

Casting Whose fault is it? Is it the actor's fault or is it the casting director's fault? Is it the director's fault? Shut the fuck up. Yeah, it's Shut up. Like, it's, it's gonna be okay. Yeah, I mean It gets, it gets too deep. Like, again, if it was today, different story. Right. Completely different. Right. I appreciate the fact that they went so far in their lengths to create that time period and they did such a wonderful job.

My last point is I also love the book ending story that they have. Very good. The mummy dies the same way.  That the Pharaoh died at the beginning. Same stab. Yep. So it's like kind of that come up. Full circle. Ties it all together. It gets fucked up by Scara, Beatles and I in the dark, in the treasure room.

And you can't wait until that moment. And then the last thing I remember is the camel having all the gold and stuff in it. And I wrote down like, oh, so you're gonna bring all that cursed artifacts back to the us Well, second movie. Oh, don't spoil it for me. Don't spoil it for me. I'm not quite there. I want to ask one more thing, and this is small and it's stupid, but did anyone When the plane crashed, did anyone feel bad for Winston?

They didn't even at least try to do CPR for that. That's how Winston's been dreaming of dying. That's exactly right. Exactly right. Face down in the sand. It would have been in a foreign country. Front to his memory, had they tried to revive, if they revived it, why didn't you kill me? But it was a simple two fingers to the neck, all right?

We lost them. If they weren't gonna revive Winston, they weren't gonna kill homeboy that had no eyes and no tongue. Should have put that guy out of his mission. He should have just shot him like a, you know, I would've  gaggled with my own half tongue and or kill me.  . Go, come over man. Um,  before we get to the verdict, I do want to mention briefly.

The Universal Studios ride that's still in operation to this day. There's two worlds, or two parks in Universal. Right. Is it Island of Adventures that it's in? Yeah, this is in the Universal Studios. It's right next to Hollywood Rip Ride. It's a phenomenal ride. I got to ride it again. I usually ride it every year when I'm down there.

It still holds up really well. Um, it's a fun indoor, dark roller coaster with some horror elements in it. And they just put a bunch of money into it to refurbish it. They refurbished it. Because it was down for a while. Yeah, and last year, and they redid all the animatronics. So that ride is not going anywhere.

And it's not, yeah. And it's very popular. It's very popular. The best thing too is, I remember they were saying, Hey, we're going to refurbish it and redo it from top to bottom. The fans got nervous that they were going to take out the famous Brendan Fraser coffee.  Does anyone know what I'm talking about? 

Remind me. So, at the end of the ride, after you ride it, Brendan Fraser, they have a little screen. Screen, yep. And they filmed him saying, Hey, Welcome back. I'm not going to do anything until I get my coffee and he starts yelling. And then they, and then Imhotep hands him the coffee. That's awesome. And he dies off screen.

Fun, like, thing that they shot for the ride itself and the fans thought they were going to take those out. They didn't. And they did and they kept it there. Good, they know their base then. There was a huge petition for it too. I would say the Mummy, honestly, is comparable to Gringotts in Universal. Yeah, it's Universal Space Mountain.

Yes. It's, they do a corkscrew in it. You don't go upside down, but you move in that corkscrew space, so. Yeah, and being in the dark, you just have no wherewithal. You feel the heat, there's a moment where the fire hits you. It's a great ride. I was in the park, I think it was in 2000. I was in the park when they were doing test runs on it, and we couldn't test run it because it shut down.

I remember my first time at Universal was like 2004, 2005. There was an hour and 90 minute wait to get on that ride. And you, you waded through it. Like, it was worth it, and then by the end it was like, Alright, you didn't even think about that 90 minutes, it was fucking worth it. We're gonna do it again.

It's time. I think it's time. Kyle, we'll start with you. Does this movie hold up? Yep. Watch it again.  It's, there's nothing else to say. It's better than most movies that have come out in the last 10 years. Okay, it holds up. It's, it, there's some, them cheesy moments, some one off Brenner Frazier lines where you roll your eyes.

Like, I will say, after discussing this with y'all, I feel better about it. I, I walked away from when I finished it earlier this morning. I was like, yeah, that's good, but now I have an even more  founded appreciation for it. I would 100 percent agree. I mean, if, if we're rating it, I would give it We gotta give a rating, so Yeah, I would give it an 8.

5. That's high. I would agree with that. I would say an 8. 5. It's right up there with, if Indiana Jones is an 8. 8 to 9, this is a, this is a I'm gonna say about a 7. 2. Yeah. 7 2. I think some of the cheesiness kind of ruins that for me. Because you Yes, there's cheesiness in Indiana Jones. There's just a few things I'm like, Eh, okay, come on.

My biggest thing, and the reason I give it such a high rating, and I'll make this short and sweet,  think about  movies 25 years old. Think about in the 25 years how many times we've remade, redone, re bolstered all these film franchises. And think about how many of them have done them wrong. This is the right way to bring an older IP and push it into a new era  and have it Have a lot of the similarities of the original but have its own mark because this movie is different than the original mummy It's not a shot for shot They took enough of it and created their own thing around it to where it has its own lasting legacy It's lasted 25 years.

It has its own ride at universal. It spawned several sequels It was its own thing and a lot of people don't attribute it to the mummy Because it did such a great job of retelling this story if it wasn't for the cheese if it wasn't for The things that make this movie unique are those things that have i'm sure for you taking points off But for me that adds points to it because that doesn't happen anymore.

It's, we've, we have to have a meaning behind every joke now. There has to be a political stance behind it. Everything's gotta be an art house masterpiece. Has to be, there can't be slapstick. There can't be silliness. There can't be dark humor and comedy. Was it cheesy? Fuck yeah. I'm not going to argue. But again, I think the difference for, it seems for Chase and I would be that might have added something to it to make it one of a kind.

So I want to make a comparison. I told you that I was going to bring this up. It's Indiana Jones meets National Treasure.  You get some of the cheesiness with Nick Cage and those characters, but then you throw in the adventure of the history and the magnificence of another world with Indiana Jones. I don't disagree, but I do think that there, that horror element shines so bright.

You gotta put another, like, third movie in there to add to the horror element. I would say But in terms of the mood, I think it's Indiana Jones. Three movies. Natural treasure. Indiana Jones, I won't disagree. I will say that's a huge influence for this movie. But also, I All of George A. Romero's works. Yeah.

And, a lot of Steven Spielberg's, the Goonies kind of shit. Yeah. You know? That's very, that's, that's where that, some of that cheese comes from, that allured to child me. And I was like, oh yeah, that's pretty cool. But you know that National Treasure pulled from that same category as well. Yeah, absolutely.

From that same page. I would just, I would say I understand the momentum that it had, the fast pace, and the So the arcs, you have the brawny guy, and then you have the damsel in distress, you have that dorky side character. I would just say, I don't It's played, it's Doug in, uh, The Hangover. It's the same guy.

It's the same structure in this. I would just agree more with, I think, align with Chase on that. Again, I agree with you that Indiana Jones element is uncanny, like it's just there. Yeah. Even like the wardrobe choices, for God's sake. Raiders of the Lost Ark, wardrobe choices, and look at this, wardrobe choices.

I think the horror part of it is the part of it that's just piercing. And that's what I remember most about that from a child was, it was fucking scary. It's, it is. And it is. And I will say this, comparing to when I was a kid, I was like, Oh man, this movie's just gonna be lame, it's not gonna be scary. It was just scary because I was. 

No, this movie is still fucking terrifying probably probably more terrifying now that you know, like what bearing alive it actually entails Or like just the fact that Brendan Fraser's like falling on the ground at 30 years old I'm like, oh my god my back. I will say I wasn't as this. I'm obviously I'm older so I'm not gonna be Scared like an eight or nine year old the only moments that made my stomach hurtle one was that scream that talked about The burying alive with those priests or whatever with the scared beetles.

The other parts didn't really scare me I thought it was creepy, but it didn't scare me Scare me like you want to be like pierced to the core scared That's not the movie it was trying to be though I think it was trying to tow that line and it which did so perfectly between that kind of movie that you're talking about Andrew Which yes, it would have a gateway horror.

Yes, and that's exactly what it is. 

We've reached into your childhood mind found your nostalgia and tell you that the mummy does hold up So we'll see you next time.  Bye